Yes, but being pro-life does not mean the quality of life, just the quantity, you seem to want more abused and neglected, kids killing kids and adults because adults do not have a clue this day and age about raising kids they just want more, when there is not much out their for them.Then society has to take over these children after they are out of control.
Sincerely,
sandy

You bring up an excellent point. You talk about abused an neglected children, but lets not stop there. What about abused women, rapes, children killing children, gangs killing to kill....And what about war? What do all of these have in common? A lack of respect for human life. If we truly respected human life...Children would be seen as a gift, not something to bully, abuse, and neglect. Women would be seen as something to respect not rape and abuse and women would respect themselves too much to allow anyone to mistreat them in anyway. Children would be taught not only to respect others, but also themselves and they wouldn't have the need to take weapons to school for protection, or to drink and take drugs to feel good about themselves. Teens wouldn't need to join gangs or to kill in order to gain what they mistakenly consider respect. Our jails wouldn't be filled with criminals who committed crimes against humanity and crimes of hate. Most of all...We would have too much respect for our fellow human beings to go to war and we would look for peaceable solutions to world problems. But unfortunately...This just isn't the case. In the year 2005 in the united states of america what we are teaching our children from the youngest ages is far different from respect. We are teaching our children that it is okay for another human being to show no respect for the most fragile and innocent of human lives and to willfully choose to kill human life in its earliest stages. We are showing our children...The leaders of tomorrow that all human life is not worthy of respect or life. And it appears they are learning well.

abortion is legal and these things still happen all the time. Keeping abortion legal or making abortion illegal will not change that. It's going to happen either way because their are stupid people out there who do neglect, beat, mistreat, abuse their children.

i agree totally m2t. Abortion is legal and these things are happening. Perhaps if more respect were shown for all human life....We might see less of these kinds of atrocities.

To me prolife means a bunch of people who will lie and deceive to oppress women into their particular patriarchal, fascist, theocratic oppression any way they can, including pretending that non-sentient tissue is worth more than a live, sentient woman to the point where she has to be enslaved to ensure its growth

to me prochoice means a bunch of people who are self-serving and selfish. They feel that a embryo/fetus is only a piece of tissue (try telling that to some women that have aborted) when in reality we are all only "tissue". Pro-choice are a bunch of power hungry, ego maniacs because they have the powerful right to kill. They lie (it's only a blob of cells, it's only tissue, you *won't* regret it etc....) the believe in taking another human life on demand just because it's inconveinient. They have no compassion and no respect for life.

pro-choice simply means.....Believing that one human life is more important than another....Thus ones right to choice overrides anothers right to life. Being pro-choice means believing that all human life is not worthy to live. Being pro-choice means you condone ones right to choose death for another living human being.

Fascinating how a tread about what pl means to people turns into a pc attack just because a pc expresses less than favorable sentiments about pl.

Guess you really *didn't* want to know after all :)

you provoke thinds and then try to blame us.

whoa ive never said you wont regret it. But whats the point of stressing out a pregnant woman more? Making it worse? Bullying?
I could say pro lifers kill and injure innocent pregnant women, who sometimes aren't even there (or for that matter considerign) abortion. At least with pro choice it's her choice and not made for her by some crazy with a bomb.

i beg to differ....But when you say....."at least with pro choice it's her choice and not made for her by some crazy with a bomb." you are talking about extremist, not normal pro-lifers. But let me ask you? What is wrong with a woman knowing both sides of the issue? In order to make a "choice".....Doesn't it help to see the situation from all angles? What if a woman is pregnant and scared....Walks into a clinic and that clinic treats the fetus she is carrying as insignificant and she aborts....And then later on she decides that the fetus was not insignificant and was in fact human life? What if she says....Why didn't someone tell me? Why wasn't I given the whole picture? And believe me....This does happen. Most clinics don't humanize the fetus at all........They compare it to a cancer....And who wants a cancer in their body? In reality though....The fetus is undeniably the early stages of human life....Why is this not made definite to the woman? Again....Don't you need all the facts to make an informed "choice?"

Yes, and the people that many times you guys are talking about doing abortions far into pregnancies are extremists too. I for one do not support that.

so maybe at least some of us can agree to start looking at pro-lifers and pro-choicers individually and not confuse all with some.

that would be nice. No more "pro-abort" naming and lying claptrap?

Yes and certain of you can stop calling me a fundie anti-choicer as now an advocate for pro-choice and one from pro-life have both said I am pro-choice. Even if I don;t believe in [b]everything[b] pro-choice.

how about if we just call you lil_blaze? :)

well, yes. Actually, pro-choice simply means that whatever your opinion, you still think that she is the one who should make the decision. All the other is your own views, but the above is what is central to prochoice. So there is lots of room for disagreement within prochoice.

irrelevant to your attempt at denying her valid, legal medical treatment for unwanted outcomes. It is no different than you trying to stop her from lung cancer surgery, misogynist.

yes...But if they are young and scared....Sometimes they don't know what questions to ask. They go in and are told that it is just a simple medical procedure to remove the embryo. Sometimes these girls aren't even sure what an embryo is. It is not until later that they realize what they actually have done....Because no one gave them the full story.