well, the live products of conception enters the developmental stage known as "child" upon birth. Your question shows a lack of understanding of this process. These are developmental stages. Do you at all have comprehension what that means?

the surgery is on a live fetus, not a baby. You are further showing your ignorance.

Nobody are saying that the developmental stage before birth is not alive. So either you are illiterate and stupid because it has been explained before, or you are a typical prolife liar making typical prolife false claims as we have come to expect. Poeple like you are strongly cementing our impression of pl as stupid, liars or both.

nobody have claimed that they are not alive. And this has been explained to you previously. So we are back to you being a liar, stupid or both.

i have no clue what you are talking about.

But keep on blabbering. I am very interested in what looks like a claim that somebody went for an abortion at the time she went into labor. Such pl-derived "urban myths" (read: made-up lies) are great for showing how nutty the pl arguments are. You are a great help to pc.

you are too funny. It was a rhetorical question. He said before 26 weeks a child only has reflexes...Nothing more. A child born at 21 weeks has much more than that. They are completely human inside the womb and out. Why don't you take your anti-cranky pills....At least if you do....It will help one of us.Lol

wonderful. Just be careful of folds and skin irritation. Can't be long now, eh?

lol...Okay...Here it is.


Posted: april 25, 2005
1:00 a.M. Eastern


by ron strom
© 2005 worldnetdaily.Com

a woman who was scheduled to have her 22-week-along pregnancy ended at a florida abortion clinic instead delivered the baby alive in a restroom and says her pleading for help from medical staff went unheeded, even when an employee saw that the tiny boy was moving.

The mother, angele, who asked that her last name not be used, is now considering legal action against the facility. She is being represented by liberty counsel, a nonprofit pro-life and religious-liberty legal organization.


caution.....Possibly disturbing pictures

if they are ready for life or not, they are still human.

i have seen a number of them live and do just fine...How about you?

you are lying.
you are lying. The rest of your post is just idiotic drivel as well.

lol.....Way to ignore a post. You are so funny. I just love you to death. Keep em coming.

you are lying.
but the child doesn't begin until birth, liar. And again, the rest of your post is ignorant drivel.

they are not "just fine."
reflex movements are still movements, ignorant fool.

omg.....You are hilarious. You should do stand up. "ignorent drivel"....You said "ignorant drivel." that is rich. What else you got?

lol....Great argument. You must get help with your posts from the same place pcforme does...."insults are us." lol....Don't stop...I have a few more minutes to kill.

nope, it was a "question" predicated on an outright lie. As we have come to expect from scumbag prolife liars like you.
a known medical fact. The brain's motor neurons are not connected to the body before then.
nope, you are lying.
"human"? Who said they weren't of the human species? You are again blabbering a bunch of nonsense irrelevant to the point at hand, showing how incredibly stupid/dishonest you are.
what would help is if you would stop lying. We don't expect that to happen, though.

nope...They don't. My sisters child was born at 21 weeks. He was on oxygen for 48 hours and today he is 6 and you would never know anything was wrong with him. So now whatcha got?

"human"? Who said they weren't of the human species? You are again blabbering a bunch of nonsense irrelevant to the point at hand, showing how incredibly stupid/dishonest you are.

So know you have admitted that they are alive and human....But they aren't babies. I don't have a clue what you are drinking...But whatever it is ....Make mine a double. Lol

what would help is if you would stop lying. We don't expect that to happen, though.[/quote]


omg....Stop now. You are making my side hurt. Man it is good to laugh.

nope so far so good! It was nice to see my ankles again-lol. Hey are you part canadian? You say eh alot... Lol also is it normal that I haven't had any braxton hicks contractions at all and I am 38 weeks (well will be on sat)

anyhoo since my "fetus" is now aged 36 weeks (38 gest weeks) can I call him something other than fetus as his movements are his own?

you are lying.

Intermitting trina lies and trina drivel deleted.

22 weeks is long before viability. Medical ethics demand that no heroic meassures are given such preemies, and that they instead are allowed to expire on their own instead of after hours/days of intensive attempts of keeping them alive.
which she will lose, as best medical practices dictate no heroic meassures for such preemies.

pcforme didn't claim otherwise.

don't care whether you buy it or not. It is fact. My aunt was also born at 23 weeks. She was so tiny a tea cup could fit over her head. Back then they didn't even have nicu's and today she is 75 years old.

My son was born at 27 weeks. He is 4 and wonderfully healthy.

You beleive what you like...The facts don't lie and neither do i. I also don't stoop to name calling...But we can't all be perfect...Now can we?Lol

No you may not blaze because that is scientifically incorrect. Until the day he is born you *must* call him "the fetus" at all times. Only at birth can you call him trey...Sheesh...You should know this already.