Abortion Debate Forum - I Have a Question

sandyallen

replied on May 17th, 2005

Extremely eHealthy

Hi there! Your mom did what she felt was right @ the time and you are doing what you feel is right. Being pro-choice does not mean that we are 100% for abortion, we believe in choice, we do not know what that other woman is going thru, she might be thinking that that thing inside of her is poison and if she were to have it she would mame it, not feed it abuse it, I have seen alot of this, we do not know the whole story, their are women in this world that are deathly afraid of babies and children, I have seen this too, we are not walking in these women's shoes, you can be whatever you want to be but we as pro-choice allow pregnant females to have their choice.
Sincerely,
sandy

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BaByMaMa2005

replied on May 17th, 2005

Experienced User

Well lets see, the reason that I am wishing to go into labor is because for one if you have ever been pregnant you would then realize how uncomfortable it is in the last month, plus I went into pre-term labor with my daughter at 26 weeks, no one thought that I would have lasted this long and my daughter was given plenty of steriods so that if she had been born early then she would be just as good as a full-term baby. My doctor is actually going to induce me in a few weeks if I dont deliver first.
I know I shouldnt have asked this question because, well, your total lack of compassion in your answer is suprisingly what I expected! At least steen cares about what he stands for, this has only brought me to the conclusion that he is a better man than I gave him credit for.

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mom2trevor

replied on May 17th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

Hey babymomma2005 congrats on your daughter i'll bet you are getting excited huh?

Anyway---you can be pro-life for yourself (as in you would never have an abortion) but you can be pro-choice for other people (as in they do what they do and you don't worry either way). I know alot of people like that.

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BaByMaMa2005

replied on May 17th, 2005

Experienced User

pcforme wrote:

babymama2005 wrote:

well lets see, the reason that I am wishing to go into labor is because for one if you have ever been pregnant you would then realize how uncomfortable it is in the last month, plus I went into pre-term labor with my daughter at 26 weeks, no one thought that I would have lasted this long and my daughter was given plenty of steriods so that if she had been born early then she would be just as good as a full-term baby. My doctor is actually going to induce me in a few weeks if I dont deliver first.
I know I shouldnt have asked this question because, well, your total lack of compassion in your answer is suprisingly what I expected! At least steen cares about what he stands for, this has only brought me to the
conclusion that he is a better man than I gave him credit for.

whatever I do know that premature babies have major health issues. At least try to hold off on being induced until 38 weeks. You do know that until 37 weeks gestation, the lungs aren't developed fully? You do care about your unborn "child", right? I would never in a million years have wished for a premature child.

well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, than I think i'm going to take her advice. As I said before my daughter was given steriods to help her lungs mature faster. I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

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BaByMaMa2005

replied on May 17th, 2005

Experienced User

Thank you mom2trevor and sandy, y'all have really helped me to relize that I dont have to be either, I just have relize that what was good for me might not have been good for someone else.

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FISHX

replied on May 17th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

babymama2005 wrote:

pcforme wrote:

babymama2005 wrote:

well lets see, the reason that I am wishing to go into labor is because for one if you have ever been pregnant you would then realize how uncomfortable it is in the last month, plus I went into pre-term labor with my daughter at 26 weeks, no one thought that I would have lasted this long and my daughter was given plenty of steriods so that if she had been born early then she would be just as good as a full-term baby. My doctor is actually going to induce me in a few weeks if I dont deliver first.
I know I shouldnt have asked this question because, well, your total lack of compassion in your answer is suprisingly what I expected! At least steen cares about what he stands for, this has only brought me to the
conclusion that he is a better man than I gave him credit for.

whatever I do know that premature babies have major health issues. At least try to hold off on being induced until 38 weeks. You do know that until 37 weeks gestation, the lungs aren't developed fully? You do care about your unborn "child", right? I would never in a million years have wished for a premature child.

well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, than I think i'm going to take her advice. As I said before my daughter was given steriods to help her lungs mature faster. I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

i can understand you wanting to deliver early I think I would opt for inducment as well.

Bella will be just fine my twins were born at 30 weeks babies are very resiliant :wink:

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lil_blaze2004

replied on May 18th, 2005

Supporter

[quote="pcforme]

well, I hope all goes well. I personally would not take the chance, but it is your body and your choice, not mine.[/quote]

actually as she is 35 weeks she could give birth to a healthy baby anytime from 1 week on. Even without the steroids. As she was given steroids for bella's lungs to mature, bella would be fine even now. She's over 5 lbs and all. I am 34 1/2 weeks preggers with a lil boy who is already 5 1/2 lbs and it is extremelly uncomfortable, so I know exactly where she is coming from.

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lil_blaze2004

replied on May 18th, 2005

Supporter

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

actually as she is 35 weeks she could give birth to a healthy baby anytime from 1 week on.

actually, no, a full term fetus is considered 37 weeks gestation. And if she really cared about her current pregnancy, she wouldn't cut short the gestation time for selfish reasons. But I guess as long as you are pro "life" it is ok to have a right over your body, huh?

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

even without the steroids. As she was given steroids for bella's lungs to mature, bella would be fine even now. She's over 5 lbs and all. I am 34 1/2 weeks preggers with a lil boy who is already 5 1/2 lbs and it is extremelly uncomfortable, so I know exactly where she is coming from.

so do i. And guess what? My future child's development came before my comfort. Too bad you and your fellow pro "lifers" can't say the same. And giving steroids means something is wrong. Healthy full term babies don't need drugs to live. Sick babies need drugs. Glad I was selfish enough to let my pregnancy go the way nature intended. Too bad you ladies can't say the same.

i was at my doc's yesterday and he told me anything from 36 weeks on is fine!!!! As for babymama2005 and the steroids, it's more to do with medical reasons, she has cancer!! They are trying to save a part of her so she can have future children as she is still very young.

Us ladies, my pregnancy is going the way nature intended, no drugs nothing for me, so why don't you learn to shut your judgemental f-ing mouth, health forum.

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mom2trevor

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

actually as she is 35 weeks she could give birth to a healthy baby anytime from 1 week on.

actually, no, a full term fetus is considered 37 weeks gestation. And if she really cared about her current pregnancy, she wouldn't cut short the gestation time for selfish reasons. But I guess as long as you are pro "life" it is ok to have a right over your body, huh?

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

even without the steroids. As she was given steroids for bella's lungs to mature, bella would be fine even now. She's over 5 lbs and all. I am 34 1/2 weeks preggers with a lil boy who is already 5 1/2 lbs and it is extremelly uncomfortable, so I know exactly where she is coming from.

so do i. And guess what? My future child's development came before my comfort. Too bad you and your fellow pro "lifers" can't say the same. And giving steroids means something is wrong. Healthy full term babies don't need drugs to live. Sick babies need drugs. Glad I was selfish enough to let my pregnancy go the way nature intended. Too bad you ladies can't say the same.

pc--noone said that 35 weeks was full term. Twisting again I see. So according to you she is selfish because she has cancer and wants to do what is best for her and her baby.
Wow--you actually let your pregnancy continue..I'm shocked with your attitude. My pregnancy was 100% natural until complications beyond my control started to risk my sons health and my own health so yeah I can say the same.
Babies can be born sick even if they are full term and babies can be born healthy at 35 weeks...What's your point?

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mom2trevor

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

Uh-oh blaze you've been tattled on....Ahhh elementary school all over again.....

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lil_blaze2004

replied on May 18th, 2005

Supporter

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

i was at my doc's yesterday and he told me anything from 36 weeks on is fine!

he is lying then. Do some research on your own for a change.

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

as for babymama2005 and the steroids, it's more to do with medical reasons, she has cancer!! They are trying to save a part of her so she can have future children as she is still very young.

and? When her future child is old enough to understand that he is sickly because she was more interested in future pregnancies instead of his health, what is she going to say? She choose to continue the pregnancy. You claim to be pro life. Act like it.

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

us ladies, my pregnancy is going the way nature intended, no drugs nothing for me, so why don't you learn to shut your judgemental f-ing mouth, health forum.

i can judge what I want. I'm not the one risking my pregnancy for my selfish reasons.

Your post was send to admin for tos violations.

i trust my doc more than the internet, sorry I must be stupid or something.
Where have I claimed to be pro-life?? You don't know what I am.
Risking her pregnancy for selfish reasons?? Her life and future, damn girl. Oh and send my post to admin, i've already been banned and brought back by popular demand, so...If you weren't some ignorant newbie, you;d know that. Should I send all your nasty posts to admin and say oh ban her please, maybe I can e-mail the head honcho again like I did when I was banned. Oh but wait i'm not an immature tattle tale so nah I won't bother. Grow up and grow some cojones!

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mom2trevor

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

babymama2005 wrote:

pcforme wrote:

babymama2005 wrote:

well lets see, the reason that I am wishing to go into labor is because for one if you have ever been pregnant you would then realize how uncomfortable it is in the last month, plus I went into pre-term labor with my daughter at 26 weeks, no one thought that I would have lasted this long and my daughter was given plenty of steriods so that if she had been born early then she would be just as good as a full-term baby. My doctor is actually going to induce me in a few weeks if I dont deliver first.
I know I shouldnt have asked this question because, well, your total lack of compassion in your answer is suprisingly what I expected! At least steen cares about what he stands for, this has only brought me to the
conclusion that he is a better man than I gave him credit for.

whatever I do know that premature babies have major health issues. At least try to hold off on being induced until 38 weeks. You do know that until 37 weeks gestation, the lungs aren't developed fully? You do care about your unborn "child", right? I would never in a million years have wished for a premature child.

well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, than I think i'm going to take her advice. As I said before my daughter was given steriods to help her lungs mature faster. I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

did you not read her post?? "well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, that I think I am going to take her advice"

did you miss that part? Selective reading how pro-choice of you.

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foreverblue

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

mom2trevor wrote:

babymama2005 wrote:

pcforme wrote:

babymama2005 wrote:

well lets see, the reason that I am wishing to go into labor is because for one if you have ever been pregnant you would then realize how uncomfortable it is in the last month, plus I went into pre-term labor with my daughter at 26 weeks, no one thought that I would have lasted this long and my daughter was given plenty of steriods so that if she had been born early then she would be just as good as a full-term baby. My doctor is actually going to induce me in a few weeks if I dont deliver first.
I know I shouldnt have asked this question because, well, your total lack of compassion in your answer is suprisingly what I expected! At least steen cares about what he stands for, this has only brought me to the
conclusion that he is a better man than I gave him credit for.

whatever I do know that premature babies have major health issues. At least try to hold off on being induced until 38 weeks. You do know that until 37 weeks gestation, the lungs aren't developed fully? You do care about your unborn "child", right? I would never in a million years have wished for a premature child.

well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, than I think i'm going to take her advice. As I said before my daughter was given steriods to help her lungs mature faster. I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

did you not read her post?? "well if my doctor seems to think that my baby is ready for delivery, that I think I am going to take her advice"

did you miss that part? Selective reading how pro-choice of you.

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Pro choice know better than a doctor have'nt you learnt that yet,and the bit about prem babies being sickly is just bs we have had three and they have had less medical problems than the others.

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FISHX

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

i trust my doc more than the internet, sorry I must be stupid or something.

you must be... That is why people get things called second opinions. Doctor's are perfect.

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

where have I claimed to be pro-life?? You don't know what I am.

sure. Your posts reek pl.

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

risking her pregnancy for selfish reasons?? Her life and future, damn girl. Oh and send my post to admin, i've already been banned and brought back by popular demand, so...If you weren't some ignorant newbie, you;d know that. Should I send all your nasty posts to admin and say oh ban her please, maybe I can e-mail the head honcho again like I did when I was banned. Oh but wait i'm not an immature tattle tale so nah I won't bother. Grow up and grow some cojones!

her "life"? No, just her future fertility. Guess her poor fetus will learn the lesson of her selfishness.

Tos'd.

all this from someone who holds no value to the life of a baby/fetus.

How the hell can you sit there judging anyone for putting medical treatment first when her child is perfectly viable is beyond me what happend to pc's favorite argument that the mother holds more value than the baby/fetus ?

You hypocrite.

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FISHX

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

pcforme wrote:

fishx wrote:

all this from someone who holds no value to the life of a baby/fetus.

exactly how do you plan to prove I hold no value for the life of a fetus?

fishx wrote:

how the hell can you sit there judging anyone for putting medical treatment first when her child is perfectly viable is beyond me what happend to pc's favorite argument that the mother holds more value than the baby/fetus ?

You hypocrite.

actually, it is me that is fighting for selfish pl'ers like this to give birth early. It is you that is the hypocrite. You should care more about the fact that she is delivering early and risking the fetus' health, not i. Funny how the pl'ers here are not concerned with the fetus, yet I am. Lol

who is watching your children while you and dh sit online all day?

she has to deliver early so she can start her treatment or are medical reasons only valid if you want to terminate .

You are the one that has been arguing the toss about the mothers life being of more value not me you stupid phsycotic health forum.

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lil_blaze2004

replied on May 18th, 2005

Supporter

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

i trust my doc more than the internet, sorry I must be stupid or something.

you must be... That is why people get things called second opinions. Doctor's are perfect.

Tos'd.

are you really that ignorant? As I see 2 doc's and a nurse every time I go to the doc's I trust their 3 opinions before the net. You are a real piece of work, why don;t you go walk out your penthouse window?

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foreverblue

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

pcforme wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

i trust my doc more than the internet, sorry I must be stupid or something.

you must be... That is why people get things called second opinions. Doctor's are perfect.

Tos'd.

are you really that ignorant? As I see 2 doc's and a nurse every time I go to the doc's I trust their 3 opinions before the net. You are a real piece of work, why don;t you go walk out your penthouse window?

.

What her double decker bus lol

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lil_blaze2004

replied on May 18th, 2005

Supporter

[quote="pcforme"][quote="fishx"]she has to deliver early so she can start her treatment or are medical reasons only valid if you want to terminate .

Wrong. She wants to deliver early so she can have more children in the future. Maybe your husband should be calling you the illeterate one.

Babymama2005 wrote: I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

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the fetus isn't in danger... Neither is her life. She wants to have more illegitamate children in the future and that is more important than her current pregnancy.

i can't get over what a dog you are. She's 17 years old, she's lucky to be having bella but has a right to want more children if she can have them. She didn't say she was gonna pull the baby out herself early, only have her early if her docs think it is the right thing to do.

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FISHX

replied on May 18th, 2005

Active User, very eHealthy

[quote="pcforme"][quote="fishx"]she has to deliver early so she can start her treatment or are medical reasons only valid if you want to terminate .

Wrong. She wants to deliver early so she can have more children in the future. Maybe your husband should be calling you the illeterate one.

Babymama2005 wrote: I also have my own reasons for wanting to deliver sooner, I was informed by the md anderson cancer center that if I delivered within the next few weeks I might not have to loose my whole cervix, so that if I find a husband in the future I can have another child if we choose to. Bella is also way over the weight limit that would keep her in the hospital if I delivered soon, so I would be able to take her home when I went home.

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the fetus isn't in danger... Neither is her life. She wants to have more illegitamate children in the future and that is more important than her current pregnancy.

and what do you call having half of your cervix removed if not having treatment ?
Do you actualy know how fast a cancer can spread?
Now if she had terminated her pregnancy to receive trearment you would be defending her to the death.
I think the fact that cancer can claim a life in a matter of weeks and she want's her child to have a mother to love her is her main priorty right now .
Whether her child is illegitamate has nothing to do with this debate and I think your referal to it really lets the pro choice side down.
You really are one sick little puppy.

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