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samita333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
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Posted: 05-14-05 22:08pm
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I tell no lies, besides thats just your
mongering opinion!
I'm here 4 u xoutsidex!
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-14-05 22:13pm
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Again I have to say that if you wanted
people to agree with your decision about
having an abortion then the abortion forum
is better for you. There are people there
like steen who will support you and tell
you that what you are going to do is ok,
not that there isnt anything wronge with
that, you just are not going to get that
kind of support in the prengancy forum.
And yes I do beleive the things I said are
true but that is why I am pro-life and
steen is pro-choice, we just have two
different opinions.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Posted: 05-14-05 22:21pm
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Samita, I proved where you lied, and where
you tried to push your beliefs onto her.
In the meanwhile, I provided factual
information and encouraged her to do what
will work for herself.
So drop your false claims.
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samita333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
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Pregnancy
Posted: 05-14-05 23:19pm
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Steen, i'm done with u. U obviously do
not know where u are not wanted.
The most important thing is the welfare of
this child, oh no, its gone from a baby to
a child! I must be a real liar!
You are a jelous nusiense! Go to the
abortion forum, we are talking about
pregnancy here!
Once again I tell no lies.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Re: Pregnancy
Posted: 05-15-05 09:24am
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| samita333
wrote: | | steen, i'm done with u. U
obviously do not know where u are not
wanted. |
ah, the not-so-subtle pl
desire for censorship.
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tr> | the most
important thing is the welfare of this
child, |
it is not a child yet,
your revisionist linguistics
nonewithstanding.
And no, you are wrong. The most
important thing is the woman herself. If
ever there was doubt that you are not
putting her welfare first, your post just
proved it. You are a misogynist.
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tr> | oh no, its gone
from a baby to a child! I must be a real
liar! |
yes.
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tr> | you are a jelous
nusiense! Go to the abortion forum, we
are talking about pregnancy
here! |
oh, and you are also
illiterate, what a surprise.
We are indeed talking about abortion, as
that is the question raised by the initial
poster.
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tr> | once again I tell
no lies. |
i already proved that you
do. Denying a fact doesn't change that
fact. Yes, you are a liar, that has
already been established, that in your
anti-abortion zeal, you are willing to lie
to people to scare monger them into
following your particular political goals
regardless of what is best for them.
In other words, you are a typical pl.
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 13:37pm
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Y'all, have you not even noticed that she
has not posted since y'all started
fighting? The only mistake samita has
made is caring about a baby who obviously
needs to be cared for, and yes steen I do
think that it is a baby, but that is my
belief and that is also samitas belief,
you may not think that that ball of cells
is anything but we do, and you have to
realize that people have different
opinions and you can not shut people down
for them. So we think that she shouldnt
have an abortion, thats our opinion, but
thats what she asked for! I think that
you should be able to show her your side
of the picture too but I think that it
would be nice if you could do it without
making us feel like we are wrong. She
came to our forum, and by our forum I mean
the pregnancy forum, and asked us for our
opinion, so we gave it to her!
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samita333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
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Thanx Girl
Posted: 05-15-05 14:27pm
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Thanx 4 gettn my back babymama2005!
I hope outside and her baby are ok.
Steen, grow a uterus and who knows just
maybe then u will undrerstand :lol:
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
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Posted: 05-15-05 14:59pm
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Hi there! It is not a baby until birth.
You must do what is right for you and I
do agree that this should be on the
abortion forum.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Posted: 05-15-05 15:31pm
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| babymama2005
wrote: | | y'all, have you not even
noticed that she has not posted since
y'all started fighting? The only mistake
samita has made is caring about a baby who
obviously needs to be cared
for, |
and posting lies. That
as a big mistake.
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tr> | so we think that
she shouldnt have an abortion, thats our
opinion, but thats what she asked
for! |
so you are illiterate?
She asked for information, not opinions.
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tr> | i think that you
should be able to show her your side of
the picture too but I think that it would
be nice if you could do it without making
us feel like we are
wrong. |
newsflash: my side of
the picture is that you can voice your
opinion all you want, but when your side
deliberately post falsehoods, then it goes
from opinion to scare mongering lies.
And those I will confront every time.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Re: Thanx Girl
Posted: 05-15-05 15:32pm
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| samita333
wrote: | | steen, grow a uterus and who
knows just maybe then u will undrerstand
:lol: |
samita, grow some
integrity and honesty, and maybe you won't
have to lie.
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 17:01pm
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So now im illiterate? If someone posts in
this forum, then whether they like it or
not they are going to get my opinion! I
have every right to tell her what I think!
I answered her question and then gave her
a little bit of advice. May I ask you
something steen? Have you ever been
pregnant? Do you know what it feels like
to hold the power to either nurture or
kill a human life? If you dont than you
dont know a damned thing about what we are
talking about! Pro-life or pro-choice, I
didnt seem to catch the part in her
original post that said," only answer my
questions, please dont give advice"! That
what this forum is for and if you dont
like our advice then dont come to this
doing it forum! Catch my
drift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Posted: 05-15-05 17:15pm
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| babymama2005
wrote: | | so now im illiterate? If
someone posts in this forum, then whether
they like it or not they are going to get
my opinion! |
that may well, be, but
that is not what she asked about. That
you claim she did, that is evidence of
your illiteracy.
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tr> | that what this
forum is for and if you dont like our
advice then dont come to this doing it
forum! Catch my
drift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | and you endorse
outright lying and misrepresentations as
part of that "advice"? Why am I not
surprised.
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 17:19pm
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Because you are a man! The only head your
thinking with is your little one! And if
I was illiterate then I couldnt post to
you now could i?
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
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Posted: 05-15-05 17:24pm
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Anyone noticed she hasnt come back
im sure she's already decided
for *herself*
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 17:29pm
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Ya I noticed a long time ago, but I still
have a bone to pick with mr. Steen!!!
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Posted: 05-15-05 20:25pm
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| babymama2005
wrote: | | because you are a man! The
only head your thinking with is your
little one! |
and thus, we witness the
usual ad hominems that pl so desperately
need in order to make an arhument.
Pathetic.
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tr> | and if I was
illiterate then I couldnt post to you now
could i? |
well, you can't really,
because what you post about is not what I
wrote. I rest my case.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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Posted: 05-15-05 20:25pm
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| babymama2005
wrote: | | but I still have a bone to
pick with mr.
Steen!!! |
about how you lied about
my post?
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 21:08pm
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| steen
wrote: | | babymama2005
wrote: | | because you are a man!
The only head your thinking with is your
little one! |
and thus, we witness the
usual ad hominems that pl so desperately
need in order to make an arhument.
Pathetic.
Sounds like you are the illiterate one!
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tr> | and if I was
illiterate then I couldnt post to you now
could i? |
well, you can't really,
because what you post about is not what I
wrote. I rest my
case. |
what case, you have no case. I was trying
to be civil in the beginning so that we
did not have a recap of last time, but you
must be bored!
P.S. An abortion is still legal at 24
weeks, here are some facts about a 24
weeks old fetus. Your baby's development
although your baby is still receiving
oxygen through the placenta, once birth
occurs his or her lungs will start taking
in oxygen on their own. In preparation
for the outside world, your baby's lungs
will now begin to produce surfactant.
Surfactant is a substance that keeps the
air sacs in our lungs from collapsing and
sticking together when we exhale, allowing
us to breathe properly.
Because the inner ear is now completely
developed, your baby may be able to tell
when he or she is upside down or right
side up while floating and making
movements in the amniotic fluid. The
inner ear controls balance in the body.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Re: Thanx Girl
Posted: 05-15-05 21:15pm
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| samita333
wrote: | thanx 4 gettn my back
babymama2005!
I hope outside and her baby are ok.
Steen, grow a uterus and who knows just
maybe then u will undrerstand
:lol: |
him growing a uterus isn't going to change
his mind.. I have a uterus and I am
prochoice... Prochoice people come in
many colors and both genders and from all
experiences.
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: 05-15-05 21:35pm
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Pro-choice is great, we all need to make
our own decisions; "abortion or bust"
isn't ok!
P.S. My mother wants to say something...I
am 48, I had an abortion 12 year ago, I
had to. At least that is what I was
told. I was severely depressed, my
husband had another "wife" and another
baby on the way at the same time. And I
had a 3 year old child to care for. I
had to choose between a baby with what the
doctors called "oh no's", and a 3 year old
who would soon suffer from divorce. The
choice had to be made by me and I chose
abortion. Raising a baby with problems
alone would cause great difficulties for
my self and my daughter. We would be
alone. I cried for weeks before finally
having the procedure. It was painful,
loud, very loud. It scared me to death.
Afterward I was nurtured by friends and
recovered. The depression lifted and my
daughter flourished. My son died. I
miss him and wish that it could have been
different. I have another son now and I
guard him with my very life. My
daughters don't like it that I am so
partial to him but they don't know that it
is because of joss, the son I never had.
No it never goes away.
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