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samita333

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Posted: 05-14-05 22:08pm

I tell no lies, besides thats just your mongering opinion!

I'm here 4 u xoutsidex!
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-14-05 22:13pm

Again I have to say that if you wanted people to agree with your decision about having an abortion then the abortion forum is better for you. There are people there like steen who will support you and tell you that what you are going to do is ok, not that there isnt anything wronge with that, you just are not going to get that kind of support in the prengancy forum. And yes I do beleive the things I said are true but that is why I am pro-life and steen is pro-choice, we just have two different opinions.
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steen

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Posted: 05-14-05 22:21pm

Samita, I proved where you lied, and where you tried to push your beliefs onto her. In the meanwhile, I provided factual information and encouraged her to do what will work for herself.

So drop your false claims.
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samita333

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Posted: 05-14-05 23:19pm

Steen, i'm done with u. U obviously do not know where u are not wanted.

The most important thing is the welfare of this child, oh no, its gone from a baby to a child! I must be a real liar!
You are a jelous nusiense! Go to the abortion forum, we are talking about pregnancy here!

Once again I tell no lies.
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steen

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Posted: 05-15-05 09:24am

samita333 wrote:
steen, i'm done with u. U obviously do not know where u are not wanted.
ah, the not-so-subtle pl desire for censorship.
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the most important thing is the welfare of this child,
it is not a child yet, your revisionist linguistics nonewithstanding.

And no, you are wrong. The most important thing is the woman herself. If ever there was doubt that you are not putting her welfare first, your post just proved it. You are a misogynist.

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oh no, its gone from a baby to a child! I must be a real liar!
yes.
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you are a jelous nusiense! Go to the abortion forum, we are talking about pregnancy here!
oh, and you are also illiterate, what a surprise.

We are indeed talking about abortion, as that is the question raised by the initial poster.
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once again I tell no lies.
i already proved that you do. Denying a fact doesn't change that fact. Yes, you are a liar, that has already been established, that in your anti-abortion zeal, you are willing to lie to people to scare monger them into following your particular political goals regardless of what is best for them.

In other words, you are a typical pl.
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 13:37pm

Y'all, have you not even noticed that she has not posted since y'all started fighting? The only mistake samita has made is caring about a baby who obviously needs to be cared for, and yes steen I do think that it is a baby, but that is my belief and that is also samitas belief, you may not think that that ball of cells is anything but we do, and you have to realize that people have different opinions and you can not shut people down for them. So we think that she shouldnt have an abortion, thats our opinion, but thats what she asked for! I think that you should be able to show her your side of the picture too but I think that it would be nice if you could do it without making us feel like we are wrong. She came to our forum, and by our forum I mean the pregnancy forum, and asked us for our opinion, so we gave it to her!
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samita333

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Posted: 05-15-05 14:27pm

Thanx 4 gettn my back babymama2005!
I hope outside and her baby are ok.

Steen, grow a uterus and who knows just maybe then u will undrerstand :lol:
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Posted: 05-15-05 14:59pm

Hi there! It is not a baby until birth. You must do what is right for you and I do agree that this should be on the abortion forum.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen

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Posted: 05-15-05 15:31pm

babymama2005 wrote:
y'all, have you not even noticed that she has not posted since y'all started fighting? The only mistake samita has made is caring about a baby who obviously needs to be cared for,
and posting lies. That as a big mistake.

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so we think that she shouldnt have an abortion, thats our opinion, but thats what she asked for!
so you are illiterate? She asked for information, not opinions.

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i think that you should be able to show her your side of the picture too but I think that it would be nice if you could do it without making us feel like we are wrong.
newsflash: my side of the picture is that you can voice your opinion all you want, but when your side deliberately post falsehoods, then it goes from opinion to scare mongering lies. And those I will confront every time.
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steen

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Re: Thanx Girl
Posted: 05-15-05 15:32pm

samita333 wrote:
steen, grow a uterus and who knows just maybe then u will undrerstand :lol:
samita, grow some integrity and honesty, and maybe you won't have to lie.
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 17:01pm

So now im illiterate? If someone posts in this forum, then whether they like it or not they are going to get my opinion! I have every right to tell her what I think! I answered her question and then gave her a little bit of advice. May I ask you something steen? Have you ever been pregnant? Do you know what it feels like to hold the power to either nurture or kill a human life? If you dont than you dont know a damned thing about what we are talking about! Pro-life or pro-choice, I didnt seem to catch the part in her original post that said," only answer my questions, please dont give advice"! That what this forum is for and if you dont like our advice then dont come to this doing it forum! Catch my drift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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steen

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Posted: 05-15-05 17:15pm

babymama2005 wrote:
so now im illiterate? If someone posts in this forum, then whether they like it or not they are going to get my opinion!
that may well, be, but that is not what she asked about. That you claim she did, that is evidence of your illiteracy.

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that what this forum is for and if you dont like our advice then dont come to this doing it forum! Catch my drift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and you endorse outright lying and misrepresentations as part of that "advice"? Why am I not surprised.
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 17:19pm

Because you are a man! The only head your thinking with is your little one! And if I was illiterate then I couldnt post to you now could i?
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seksiHily

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Posted: 05-15-05 17:24pm

Anyone noticed she hasnt come back
im sure she's already decided
for *herself*
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 17:29pm

Ya I noticed a long time ago, but I still have a bone to pick with mr. Steen!!!
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steen

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Posted: 05-15-05 20:25pm

babymama2005 wrote:
because you are a man! The only head your thinking with is your little one!
and thus, we witness the usual ad hominems that pl so desperately need in order to make an arhument. Pathetic.

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and if I was illiterate then I couldnt post to you now could i?
well, you can't really, because what you post about is not what I wrote. I rest my case.
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steen

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Posted: 05-15-05 20:25pm

babymama2005 wrote:
but I still have a bone to pick with mr. Steen!!!
about how you lied about my post?
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 21:08pm

steen wrote:
babymama2005 wrote:
because you are a man! The only head your thinking with is your little one!
and thus, we witness the usual ad hominems that pl so desperately need in order to make an arhument. Pathetic.
Sounds like you are the illiterate one!

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and if I was illiterate then I couldnt post to you now could i?
well, you can't really, because what you post about is not what I wrote. I rest my case.

what case, you have no case. I was trying to be civil in the beginning so that we did not have a recap of last time, but you must be bored!

P.S. An abortion is still legal at 24 weeks, here are some facts about a 24 weeks old fetus. Your baby's development
although your baby is still receiving oxygen through the placenta, once birth occurs his or her lungs will start taking in oxygen on their own. In preparation for the outside world, your baby's lungs will now begin to produce surfactant. Surfactant is a substance that keeps the air sacs in our lungs from collapsing and sticking together when we exhale, allowing us to breathe properly.

Because the inner ear is now completely developed, your baby may be able to tell when he or she is upside down or right side up while floating and making movements in the amniotic fluid. The inner ear controls balance in the body.
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bd1012

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Re: Thanx Girl
Posted: 05-15-05 21:15pm

samita333 wrote:
thanx 4 gettn my back babymama2005!

I hope outside and her baby are ok.


Steen, grow a uterus and who knows just maybe then u will undrerstand :lol:

him growing a uterus isn't going to change his mind.. I have a uterus and I am prochoice... Prochoice people come in many colors and both genders and from all experiences.
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BaByMaMa2005

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Posted: 05-15-05 21:35pm

Pro-choice is great, we all need to make our own decisions; "abortion or bust" isn't ok!

P.S. My mother wants to say something...I am 48, I had an abortion 12 year ago, I had to. At least that is what I was told. I was severely depressed, my husband had another "wife" and another baby on the way at the same time. And I had a 3 year old child to care for. I had to choose between a baby with what the doctors called "oh no's", and a 3 year old who would soon suffer from divorce. The choice had to be made by me and I chose abortion. Raising a baby with problems alone would cause great difficulties for my self and my daughter. We would be alone. I cried for weeks before finally having the procedure. It was painful, loud, very loud. It scared me to death. Afterward I was nurtured by friends and recovered. The depression lifted and my daughter flourished. My son died. I miss him and wish that it could have been different. I have another son now and I guard him with my very life. My daughters don't like it that I am so partial to him but they don't know that it is because of joss, the son I never had. No it never goes away.
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