Help...question About Abortion..plz Help.. Posted: 05-12-05 23:01pm
Is it necessary to get a blood test to get
an abortion...I'm only 17 and I dont' want
to screw up my future....And my parents
would freak if dey ever found out....N my
boyfriend supports meh with whatever
decision I take...But if his parents ever
found out..Dere's a high possiblitly dat
his father will literalli kill him..Cause
his father is has a lil bit of a mental
problem... :cry: so...I was wondering if
ne one could tell meh if it is necessary
to take a blood test b4 getting an
abortion...
I just found out recently dat I was
pregnant..Cause I didn't show any signs of
being pregnant...Yes...At some times..I
felt like vomiting..But dat was very
little...Like three times a week lasting
like 10-15 seconds....And last month..I
realized dat my period was lighter dan
usualli..But slightly...I've missed my
period dis month for like...A week...
By how long does it take for a person to
hear the heart beat of the baby?...Maybe
this will help me determine how long i've
been pregnant...Please help meh....
:( first of all, a baby is not a choice,
it is a pure and innocent life, no matter
weather it is inside of you or outside.
I'm only 19, and my baby never ruined my
life. It makes me incredibly sad that
anyone would wana kill their own children,
their own flesh and blood. It does not
matter if a baby fits into your scedule,
if u are pregnant, that baby is a apart of
u! That baby is meant to be, and u will
see that the first time u feel those
precious movements or see that little body
on an ultrasound. Although in the early
stages of pregnancy the baby cant be seen.
Or felt, that baby is a life desreving
human being sent from god to you, the most
precious gift a woman can be given. Arent
u glad u werent aborted, oh but that baby
you are carrying doesnt deserve a chance,
because it just not the right time for
you. Apparently it is the right time for
him to live! Imagen seeing your baby's
smile for the first time, and him callin u
mommy, and let him live!
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xoutsidex
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Posted: 05-13-05 00:41am
I know I used the words "screw my life"
and I know that yes...I know that that
doesn't always happen. But when I used
these words...I was talking more or less
in the terms of what happened to my
sister...She got pregnant before she
graduated college. With my nephew...She
attempted suicide twice thankfully
unsuccesfful.
Also...If I decide to have this
child....The chances of me being a single
parent being kicked otu of my family is
very highish...My pregnancy will shock my
parents because i'm their youngest
child...And they wouldn't have thougth a
thing like this would happen...
As for my boyfriend...He comes from a very
abusive family...Before he came to this
country...His father once beat him up so
badly...He ended up in the hospital...That
was when he was 5....As of
currently...Sometimes his father would
beat him..And yell/shout at him for no
apparent reason....Last winter..He was
kicked out of his house in the middle of
the night because wen asked to do someding
for his father..Bc it wasn't perfect...He
was just kicked out...In the middle of
winter...
I'm 17...I realli don't know what else to
do...I know that I will regret having an
abortion in the future....I know i'll
never be able to see her/him..Never know
how she'll look like...Feel like....I'll
never be able to love her...
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samita333
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Please Posted: 05-13-05 02:57am
This is a true test for u and your family,
but it shouldnt be for your baby. He is
innocent. Before you do anything tell
your parents, believe me I thought the
same thing but they were so happy when
emily came into their lives. Things will
be sooo different than u are thinking they
will be, trust me. As for your bf, his
father should never see the baby, if thats
the way you think it should go, but that
doesnt mean your bf wont be a great
father. I have a friend who is just like
you, except her bf was very abusive, but
she married him anyway. By the way she
has parents just like yours. Anyway, she
got preggo at the just turned age of 18.
Right now shes goin through a divorce, and
her son is a blessing at the age of 5
months. She thought her parents would
freak out (she got married and preggo
without them knowing), but once someone is
pregnant, the only thing you can do is be
happy for that person, and they were, and
they stand behind her (she and her son
live with them and everything) my point is
if she can do it without her babies
father, u can do it with or without him
too! You can, believe me. That baby is
living inside you, probobly sucking its
thumb and everything. Yeah thats right
his heart is beating too, babies mature so
quickly in warm protecting womb! Besides
have u ever seen a video of an abortion?Go
to: http://www.Silentscream.Org/
the baby about 11 week is torn into pieces
while hes stilll alive, and sucked into a
syring, and u better believ the baby
fights it, literally kicking and
screaming, not funny at all. Please giv
your baby a chance at life, or atleast
adoption?
If u wanna talk, my email is sadi
e_girl_04@yahoo.Com
and hey i'll giv you my phone number home:
1-317-471-8506
cell, free after 9 pm 1-317-523-9672
please contact me! Ur baby is so loved
already! U will be nothing like ur
sister, because when u see ur baby u will
wanna live forever just to be with him!
Ur sis may have had other probs, but dont
worry about that, just think about your
precious baby, mommy!
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samita333
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Diary Posted: 05-13-05 03:12am
Diary of a preborn child
in response to a two week prolife seminar
pastor craig ran for youth, he wrote the
following article entitled "diary of a
preborn child". May you hear god, our
heavenly father, speaking to your hearts
as you read this:
october 5 -- today my life began. My
parents do not know it yet. I am as small
as a seed of an apple, but it is I
already. And I am to be a girl. I shall
have blond hair and blue eyes! Just about
everything is settled though, even the
fact that I love flowers.
October 19 -- some say that I am not a
real person yet, that only my mother
exists. But I am a real person,just as a
small crumb of bread is yet truly bread.
My mother is. And I am.
October 23 -- my mouth is just beginning
to open now. Just think, in a year or so
I shall be laughing and later talking. I
know what my first word will be: mama.
November 2 -- I am growing a bit every
day. My arms and legs are beginning to
take shape. But I have to wait a long
time before those little legs will raise
me to my mother's arms, before these
little arms will be able to gather flowers
and embrace my father.
November 12 -- tiny fingers are beginning
to form on my hands. Funny how small they
are! I'll be able to stroke my mother's
hair with them.
Preborn child 11 weeks after conception
november 20 -- it wasn't until today that
the doctor told mom that I am living under
her heart. Oh, how happy she must be!
Are you happy, mom?
November 25 -- my mom and dad are probably
thinking about a name for me. But they
don't even know that I am a girl. I want
to be called mary. I am getting so big
already.
December 10 -- my hair is growing. It is
smooth and bright and shiny. I wonder
what kind of hair mom has.
December 13 -- I am just about to see. It
is dark around me. When mom brings me
into the world it will be full of sunshine
and flowers. But what I want to more than
anything is to see my mom. How do you
look, mom?
December 24 -- I wonder if mom hears the
whispering of my heart? Some children
come into the world a little sick. But my
heart is strong and healthy. It beats so
evenly; tup-tup, tup-tup. You'll have a
healthy little daughter, mom!
December 28 -- today my mother aborted me.
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steen
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Re: Help...question About Abortion..plz Help.. Posted: 05-14-05 15:02pm
xoutsidex
wrote:
is it necessary to get a
blood test to get an
abortion...
by how long does
it take for a person to hear the heart
beat of the baby?...Maybe this will help
me determine how long i've been
pregnant...Please help
meh....
it takes awhile before
you can hear the fetus' heartbeat. With
the doppler, the ob/gyn can usually detect
it around 10-14 weeks.
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steen
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Re: Abortion Posted: 05-14-05 15:08pm
samita333
wrote:
:( first of all, a baby is
not a choice, it is a pure and innocent
life,
actually, it is not a
baby until birth. Stating your personal
belief as a "fact" is a bit dishonest.
Quote:
i'm only 19, and
my baby never ruined my
life.
and you liove your life
while others live theirs.
Quote:
it does not
matter if a baby fits into your
scedule,
correction: it doesn't
matter to you whether a baby fots into her
schedule. To her it certainly matters,
and she has the right to make her own
choice.
Quote:
that baby is
meant to be,
again, your wishful
thinking is not a fact. Outside is the
only one who can make that personal
decision for her own life.
Quote:
and u will see
that the first time u feel those precious
movements or see that little body on an
ultrasound.
your "because I say so"
is in no way a fact.
Quote:
although in the
early stages of pregnancy the baby cant be
seen.
and it is not yet a baby
either.
Quote:
that baby is a
life desreving human being sent from god
to you, the most precious gift a woman can
be given.
that is your opinion>
it doesn't have to fit with outside's
life.
Quote:
arent u glad u
werent aborted, oh but that baby you are
carrying doesnt deserve a chance, because
it just not the right time for
you.
and how do you think that
guilt tripping in any way makes anybody
want to listen to you?
Quote:
apparently it is
the right time for him to
live!
or apparently it is not
the right time for it to live. Again,
this is outside's life, and only she can
make such decisions.
Quote:
imagen seeing
your baby's smile for the first time, and
him callin u mommy, and let him
live!
more guilt mongering.
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-14-05 15:18pm
xoutsidex
wrote:
i'm 17...I realli don't know
what else to do...I know that I will
regret having an abortion in the
future....I know i'll never be able to see
her/him..Never know how she'll look
like...Feel like....I'll never be able to
love her...
xoutsidex, you need to do
what works for you. It is your life, and
nobody else are offering to help you here,
only to impose duties on you. Make sure
your decision is right for you.
That aside, you are saying that you will
regret the abortion. That alone makes me
suggest that it might not be a good idea,
if instead you can get some help and
resources. Because it sounds like your
choice is to go on with the pregnancy, but
that outside circumstances are fighting
you on this, notably the friend families
you and your bf are involved with.
So I would look into other options.
There are community resources available,
bot government and privately run. Many
prolife organizations are happy to help
those who decide to not abort, so they
likely could help you out if this is what
you want. They will never be able to
help you out 100%, but if they could help
wioth some of the physical needs, finances
and possibly help with graduating school
(a real risk for pregnant teens), then
that might just be enough for you to
decide that you can handle this anyway.
I would suggest making a pro&con list,
and possibly a list with what you can
handle yourself or with your bf, and what
you would need help with. If you are
able to get enough community resources,
then that hewlp may make it possible for
you to give birth anyway.
Make sure that you look at everything, not
just diapers and clothes. Transportation
of a sick child to the pediatrician,
employment, making sure you graduate, your
bf being willing to deal with a baby on
the nights when you can't handle it
because you are tyo tired and so on.
What it will cost in famioly
relationships. If you give birth, are
you or his parents willing to help with
their gradnchild, or are you going to be
thrown on the street?
Look at all these aspects, but ultimately,
it is your choice and your life that you
have to decide about. If you feel that
you will regret the decision in the
future, then you should look at the
possibilities of not having the abortion
after all.
I am sure other people here have good
links to community resources. You don't
say what city you live in, but it is
almost certain that people here can help.
Whether that help is enough, that is your
decision.
You got work to do now, but I do believe
that most people here will help if you
ask.
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steen
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Re: Please Posted: 05-14-05 15:25pm
samita333
wrote:
this is a true test for u
and your family, but it shouldnt be for
your baby. He is
innocent.
there is no baby.
Quote:
before you do
anything tell your parents, believe me I
thought the same thing but they were so
happy when emily came into their lives.
Things will be sooo different than u are
thinking they will be, trust
me.
why should she trust you
to accurately predict the reaction of
people you don't know and she does?
Quote:
....My point is
if she can do it without her babies
father, u can do it with or without him
too!
your assumption is false.
What you have experience with doesn't
nbecessaril;y fit with what xoutsidex has
experience with. You don't know her and
you don't know her life. So please stop
trying to make claims that you can not
support, and instead start supporting
*her.*
yeah, as deceptive as
anything that proilife liars have *ever*
come up with, as is your description, an
outright lie. Deceptive, lying
propaganda. Is that really all you have
to serve up here? With guilt-tripping
friends like you, she sure doesn't need
enemies.
Quote:
please contact
me! Ur baby is so loved
already!
yeah, you are going to
pay for the kid's college, right? Or is
talk cheap?
Quote:
u will be nothing
like ur sister, because when u see ur baby
u will wanna live forever just to be with
him!
and you now annointed
yourself a prophet, having the ability to
see and predict the future. Any other
hyperbole you want to use for guilt
mongering?
Xoutsidex, listen to advice and help, but
beware of guiltmongering and lies from
those who care nothing about what is right
for you, as long as no abortion takes
place. Their goal is political, and they
don't give a damn about you.
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steen
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Re: Diary Posted: 05-14-05 15:26pm
samita333
wrote:
diary of a preborn
child
and more lies and
hyperbole. Back to scaremongering. You
obviously don't trust xoutsidex to make
her own decisions, instead pushing
heavyhanded lies and hyperbole. How
disgusting of you.
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BaByMaMa2005
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Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-14-05 16:06pm
Hey girl I private messaged you so go
look!
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sftbllchika06
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Posted: 05-14-05 17:51pm
I thought the smae thing when I got
pregnant. I thought omg this can't be
happening. It is going to ruin my life
and everything but after I got over the
shock it turned out the be the best thing
in the world. I never have loved anyone
more than her. I ended up losing her.
Give it time this could be the best
mistake you evry made. It you ever need
to talk then pm or im on aim at short
stuff306 or hch hotti06 or on yahoo at
sftbllchika2006
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seksiHily
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Posted: 05-14-05 18:50pm
If you choose to go to the planned
parenthood site that steen provided.
Good luck
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steen
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Posted: 05-14-05 20:58pm
seksihily
wrote:
if you choose to go to the
planned parenthood site that steen
provided.
Good luck
indeed. It can link you
to a lot of good and accurate information
about abortion.
But as I pointed out earlier, per your
selfreported ambivalence, you seriously
should consider what resources are
available for you to carry the pregnancy
to term.
Doing something that you know will make
you unhappy is not really a good option
and is rather an indication that your
choices have been taken away from you.
It is time for you to reclaim them.
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BaByMaMa2005
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Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-14-05 21:11pm
Ok hun, this is your decision! Noone but
your own selfconcious can tell you what to
do. I would say that if you are going to
get an abortion and are just trying to
justify it by asking what people think,
then the abortion forum would have been a
better choice to post in. Its not that we
arent open minded and we believe everyone
has their own respected opinion, its just
that it is very hard for us to think about
something as horrible as abortion when you
are pregnant. Expecially if you are
farther along in your pregnancy because
although steen says there is no baby, many
people think this, they have never been
pregnant! The first time you hear your
baby's heartbeat and the first time you
feel her/him kick or get the hiccups, you
know that there is definentaly a baby in
there, and its a part of you! I would
advise you to not hear the baby's
heartbeat if you are going to have an
abortion, because you will always be
haunted by the noise after everything is
final. You need to think about yourself
but you also have to relize that having an
abortion is like killing a defenseless
baby bird, but the only difference is this
baby bird is a part of your soul and a
part of your lovers soul.
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steen
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Posted: 05-14-05 21:13pm
babymama2005
wrote:
but you also have to relize
that having an abortion is like killing a
defenseless baby bird, but the only
difference is this baby bird is a part of
your soul and a part of your lovers
soul.
again, a belief is not
necessarily a fact with relevance to
xoutsidex
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samita333
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It Is a Abay Posted: 05-14-05 21:15pm
sftbllchika06
wrote:
give it time this could
be the best mistake you ever made.
point made
all I have to say is that I do believe the
thing that came out of me was indeed a
baby.
Research ur options, adoption may be the
right thing 4 u! Atleast get an
ultrasound b4 u do anything so u will see
4 ur own eyes, something sooo precious!
Stay in contact, I will always b here.
Last edited by samita333 on 05-14-05 23:38pm; edited 2 times in total
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samita333
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Posted: 05-14-05 21:18pm
Quote:
again, a belief
is not necessarily a fact with relevance
to xoutsidex
obviously someone who doesnt have a baby,
or cant, inexperienced and ignorant!
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-14-05 21:24pm
Samita, all you have done is scare
mongering and posting lies designed
deliberately to push xoutsidex towards
making a decision that you are happy with,
regardless of whether it is right for her.
Could you show her a bit of respect and
see her as a woman in her own right, who
have to make decisions that fit her, even
if not necessarily you?
Please stop the lies and
misrepresentations, would you!
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samita333
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Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
Posted: 05-14-05 22:07pm
Look steen i'm not here to fight with you,
I dont care what you have to say, in fact
you have been more obsessed with making me
wrong, than helping the girl.
Outside= u do whats best 4 ur baby and
dont list to the ignorant. Listen to ur
heart!
