This is going to sound crazy but I will
have to ask you to bear with me on this.
In october of 2004 while I was leaving a
restaurant I saw what appeared to be an
aids patient in a wheelchair near the
doorway. The person was wearing a mask
over their mouth and both the legs were
bound in casts. The person looked in
such bad shape I could not tell gender or
age. The person was not there when I
arrived, so when I left I realized
something: first, that I was walking out
the same doorway as the sick person walked
in since there was only one door, and
second, that I had walked out of the same
door as a sick person within the same
hour. I was worried that if they had
somehow gotten any of the virus on the
ground, then it would be on the bottom of
my shoes as well since I walked on the
same ground as the sick person within an
hour or less. When I got back to my room
I took off the shoes and never wore them
again. Then recently, an insect crawled
out from under the shoes which I killed
with a shampoo bottle. I then put the
bottle in a laundry basket and forgot
about it. Later, I did laundry and put
the wet laundry into the same basket that
had the shampoo bottle which I killed the
insect with that had been under the shoe.
Basically, I am worried that the virus
went from the floor of the restaurant to
my shoe to the insect that was under it,
to the bottle I used to kill it, to the
laundry basket, to the wet laundry, and to
me somehow. About a week ago I started
feeling weird symptoms, like throat muscle
pains. I also felt pains in other
muscles, some burning, some sharp, and
some dull. I have felt pains in my
joints as well. I also have had several
stomach pains over the last week, some
sharp, some dull. Also I have felt cold
symptoms. I know this sounds stupid but
to me it adds up. If someone would let
me know if there is a danger, I would
appreciate it.
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poetmcc
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 273
Posted: 05-08-05 10:43am
Hey worried, calm down! For one thing hiv
cannnot spread through air, only blood and
through intercourse. So no problems
there!! Also you seem to be really afraid
of germs- almost like a phobia I could
say. The virsu did not travel from the
floor of the restaurant to your shoe to
the insect that was under it, to the
bottle you used to kill it, to the laundry
basket, to the wet laundry, and to you...
Its really inconcievabale.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh but maybe you
ahve hypochondria, a extreme fear of germs
and diesease but hey I have it too. Not
as bad but I do fear alot of stuff. Try
to calm down and keep posting on how you
are doing
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worried about germs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 05-08-05 10:55am
Seeing a person in such a bad condition
did scare me into this phobia. Don't
worry, no offense was taken :d
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Good Advise
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 105
Think! Posted: 05-09-05 18:14pm
Something else is going on with you!
First, you can't look at the person and
think they have aids. This person may
have had 1000 other ailments that were
effecting him/her.
Let's hope this person gets better or has
a peaceful journey!
I like the fact that you were worried
about hiv, but don't go crazy looking for
it. Hiv doesn't go looking for you, ok?
You must expose yourself to it, and it's
very difficult to get unless you invite a
total disregard of your safety and expose
yourself to a risk.
Read up on it! However, someone like you
is prone to not ever getting hiv because
you are aware of it. Simply educate
yourself about it and be aware of the
condition responsibly.
I liked your posting!
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worried about germs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 05-10-05 02:15am
I read you guys's posts and they seem to
make sense. Thanks for responding.
However, I still have a question. How
soon after infection does a person get the
white spots in the mouth?
I know its probably useless worrying, but
I noticed something in my mouth today and
I would just like to know if for nothing
else than reference.
Thanks again
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Good Advise
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 105
Here's Your Answer! Posted: 05-10-05 08:12am
Check it out!
My risk was unprotected sex overseas with
a protitute. How stupid is that! I'm
talking about exchanging of fluids, you
know what I mean.
I ran my life into the ground because I
thought I had hiv and every single other
symptom.
It started by getting these white spots on
my throat. Well, guess what? My
daughter, wife and I have strep throat!
You could also get white spots on your
throat if you have been taking antibiotics
for a while (like I have) due to a
persistant liver problem (i always had
it).
Try mouth wash! If it doesn't help, go
to the doc or ionform your parents because
I don't know your age.
Congrats! And stay aware and in control
of your life. You're a good and honest
person!
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worried about germs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 05-10-05 18:48pm
Well, I see your point about the mouth
issue. And, as luck would have it,
whatever it was that was bothering me in
my mouth has gone away. It seems that
brushing my teeth somehow was all it took
to get rid of the bad feeling.
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worried about germs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 05-12-05 11:49am
Unfortunately, I suffered a bad experience
lately. As stated in my earlier posts, I
thought that somehow the virus had gotten
on my shoe at a restaurant at which I saw
a sick person. Through a series of
events I came to believe that it somehow
got into my laundry basket and onto my
laundry. This was disproved by some
useful responses for which I am thankful,
but now I am confused again. I woke up
from a nap the other day to find myself
soaked in what appeared to be seminal
fluid. The sheets I was under when I was
taking a nap were among the laundry in the
basket where I thought the virus was, and
I thought that the virus had gotten on the
laundry, which would include the sheets I
was under and the pajamas I was in. So
now, once again I am confused. If
something opened my skin and fluid came
out, could anything go in at the same
time? Is this defined as intercourse
though I was taking a nap, completely by
myself and unaware until I woke up? Some
things have happened to reinforce the
belief that I am sick such as random
pains, armpit pains, etc. As well as
mucous in my throat. I dont know whats
going on, and I really hate this uncertain
condition I find myself in. Answers
would be greatly appreciated, please.
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Shannix
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Colorado
Posted: 05-13-05 08:51am
Worried about germs:
first, you can not ever even in your
wildest dreams get hiv in the manner in
which you discribe...Period!
The seaman all over thing is normal for
men...Of course i've got to believe it
isn't the first time it's
happened...Called wet dreams if I remember
correctly...Women get them too...Just not
as odvious.
I'm really concerned about your very
detailed paranoia concerning the germs
etc.
This appears to be somewhat debilitating
to you, in the effect that you are in what
seems like this constant state of near
panic over it, the fear must be very
intense.
Virus's don't typically survive a washing
machine and dryer...That is one of the
reasons we clean our cloths...To
illiminate bacteria's and virus's that can
be harmfull to us.
I would suggest that you see a doctor
about all of this, explain what you have
to us, and perhaps have him give you an
hiv test to sooth your mind, but i'm
thinking that you may benifit from some
coucelling on this subject...Perhaps in an
effort to develop some skills to cope with
these events as they come up in your
life.
By the way...I don't think your crazy or
anything, but I do think you have a very
real anxiaty disorder...Which really isn't
a big deal, I have several...Most people
have a couple...Still...There are ways in
which we can minimize the feeling of panic
and fear that come with them.
Anyhow...This is my laypersons
advice...Seek advice from a dr, as well
consider therapy.
Peace
shannix
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worried about germs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 05-16-05 11:20am
Hey all, I just wanted to say, thank you
for responding to my questions.
Hopefully i'll get over this...But right
now, I think it may be awhile...
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Finess150
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Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 191 Location: Kent, UK
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Virus On Shoe Posted: 05-19-05 06:34am
Please, original poster, you must realise
that you have an irrational phobia of hiv.
You cannot get it by having any on your
shoe. How do you expect it to enter your
bloodstream? Consider this:
- how do you know this person had aids?
- if they did, how did the virus find its
way onto the floor?
- if it did find it's way onto the floor
and onto your shoe, how would it infect
you? Hiv cannot live outside the body,
and cannot 'jump' form person to person,
especially via a shoe, nor can it go out
and find you.
You have wasted a pair of shoes.
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Finess150
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And... Posted: 05-22-05 10:26am
If this fact does not convince you that
you do not have hiv, nothing will - the
virus does not survive for more than a few
minutes outside the body.
There. That's it. And that means that it
will not be lurking around in your sheets.
Please try to understand that the virus
can't move, it can't decide to leap from
place to place. Even if it could, it
would die before it had the chance. So,
once and for all - from the activities you
describe, you definately do not have hiv.
I will repeat. You definately do not have
hiv.
By the way, having a wet dream does not
count as having intercourse - so don't go
boasting to your buddies now.
