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Paul_

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Delusions
Posted: 04-30-05 19:28pm

I found out earlier in the week that my girlfriend has bipolar disorder, I realised today that it's much more serious that I had previously thought it was after she had a relapse and was admitted to hospital. The problem is that yesterday she said something awful about her father (which caused a lot of trouble), which is untrue. She's not a liar, she just believed so strongly that what she said was true.

My problem is what to do if something like this happens again, am I supposed to be sympathetic and believe (or at least pretend) to believe what she says, or am I supposed to tell her what I really think, which is that she's delusional. I know that the latter will be likely to upset her, and she'll refuse to admit it. The problem is also that in future, how am I supposed to know whether she is telling the truth? I suppose if she is in a manic state, it might be a giveaway, but to be honest; yesterday I didn't even notice that she was in a manic state.

I really don't know anything about bipolar disorder, if anybody can offer any helpful advice or if you have any links to interesting articles etc. I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.
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paramedicman

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Posted: 05-10-05 23:14pm

Hey, I can relate to this. I just got out of a relationship with my ex girlfriend, she was bipolar. I can tell you this, it was hard to deal with her problems plus try to ease the way I feel about it. The biggest problem for me was to be able to, after being with her and hearing her fight with her mom and sister to go home and try to tell myself that its just how she is and not to worry about it. But allot of the time it tore me apart. I couldn't help her because she didn't want my help, she wanted to do what she wanted and anything else was just a attack on her. It was a condition that I was just not ready for. But I remember that I was always there for her and anything she needed, even after I would help her so much give her everything she needed or what I thought would make her feel better. After I gave her as much as I could and told her everything I thought would help her, or at least was my good advice, it all came down to her. She will not let you help her unless she wants the help. Thats what broke me apart.

I told her so many times that she needed to stay away from this drug or that drug because its going to destroy her. But she didn't listen, at first I thought it was because she didn't like me but it was just because she didn't want to tell me how she felt because she was so angry at everything else she didn't know how to tell me. Or at least she didn't understand.

The thing is, and i'm not a pro at this, is to tell yourself its not you, she's having trouble with her self and you can only help her as much as she wants. Just be there for her, I know you heard it before but, you just have to find a way to ease yourself or it will drive you crazy.. Try talking to her about it..

Jacob - w,
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paramedicman

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Posted: 05-11-05 17:10pm

You know what man, it may not be a good thing to talk to her about it, that could, as you know spark something. Just be there for her thats all I can say. You can only do as much as your mind will let you...
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halfmoon

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Regarding Those Delusions . . .
Posted: 05-15-05 04:54am

I have just started seeing a guy who is bipolar. I am so glad to have found this forum because I thought I was the one who was going crazy. It is good to hear what others have to say about this. This guy can be the sweetest guy in the world and then turn around and be verbally abusive. I have been confronting him with his behavior because I think that is the only way I can possibly stay in the relationship. From what I have heard from other people I think he needs an increase in the dosage of his medication and I am working on getting him to the doctor as he has not been in a while. We aren't kids . We are both in our 50's.
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halfmoon

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Regarding Those Delusions . . .
Posted: 05-15-05 04:55am

I have just started seeing a guy who is bipolar. I am so glad to have found this forum because I thought I was the one who was going crazy. It is good to hear what others have to say about this. This guy can be the sweetest guy in the world and then turn around and be verbally abusive. I have been confronting him with his behavior because I think that is the only way I can possibly stay in the relationship. From what I have heard from other people I think he needs an increase in the dosage of his medication and I am working on getting him to the doctor as he has not been in a while. We aren't kids . We are both in our 50's.
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long viewer

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People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
Posted: 05-19-05 23:08pm

She has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".

If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.

Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.
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long viewer

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People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
Posted: 05-19-05 23:08pm

She has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".

If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.

Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.
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BPjoe23

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Re: People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
Posted: 10-11-05 21:20pm

long viewer wrote:
she has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".


If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.


Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.


right I couldn't of said it better my self. You should tell her the truth but use caution. Be like lately to me it seems you been up/or down I just wanted to point that out to you. Which ever case it may be. If you truely love them you are going to be there for them no matter what and give the support and encourgement. It amazing to read half these post and it all "well I loved him, but he was so etc etc etc,but you end up leaving, I question if you people where really in love. You have to remind bipolar people have a illness a disorder there's things called therapist,and relationship/marrage counstlers(sp?)
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poetprose

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Re: Delusions
Posted: 10-29-05 13:45pm

paul_ wrote:
i found out earlier in the week that my girlfriend has bipolar disorder, I realised today that it's much more serious that I had previously thought it was after she had a relapse and was admitted to hospital. The problem is that yesterday she said something awful about her father (which caused a lot of trouble), which is untrue. She's not a liar, she just believed so strongly that what she said was true.


My problem is what to do if something like this happens again, am I supposed to be sympathetic and believe (or at least pretend) to believe what she says, or am I supposed to tell her what I really think, which is that she's delusional. I know that the latter will be likely to upset her, and she'll refuse to admit it. The problem is also that in future, how am I supposed to know whether she is telling the truth? I suppose if she is in a manic state, it might be a giveaway, but to be honest; yesterday I didn't even notice that she was in a manic state.


I really don't know anything about bipolar disorder, if anybody can offer any helpful advice or if you have any links to interesting articles etc. I'd greatly appreciate it.


Thanks.



hello!! I am diagnosed with bipolor type 1,

i understand dellusions, let me explain how overpowering they are...


4 yrs ago in the throws of a full fledged "mania" I believed so strongly that everyone should just get a divorce at 40 that there should be a law telling people to divorce

so I filed for divorce but told my hubby( husband) he could come over on weekends to sleep with me if he wanted, but that we had to get divorced (how crazy is that)

i was also convinced that my husband was a spy.... Lol

i was caught , captured and medicated.... Thank goodness the whole divorce thing only endedup costing me a few hundred dollars , it could have been alot worse.....So in that case the medication was a must
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