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Q: Delusions
asked by: Paul_ on April 30th, 2005
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I found out earlier in the week that my girlfriend has bipolar disorder, I realised today that it's much more serious that I had previously thought it was after she had a relapse and was admitted to hospital. The problem is that yesterday she said something awful about her father (which caused a lot of trouble), which is untrue. She's not a liar, she just believed so strongly that what she said was true.

My problem is what to do if something like this happens again, am I supposed to be sympathetic and believe (or at least pretend) to believe what she says, or am I supposed to tell her what I really think, which is that she's delusional. I know that the latter will be likely to upset her, and she'll refuse to admit it. The problem is also that in future, how am I supposed to know whether she is telling the truth? I suppose if she is in a manic state, it might be a giveaway, but to be honest; yesterday I didn't even notice that she was in a manic state.

I really don't know anything about bipolar disorder, if anybody can offer any helpful advice or if you have any links to interesting articles etc. I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.
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paramedicman
replied on May 10th, 2005
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Relate..
Hey, I can relate to this. I just got out of a relationship with my ex girlfriend, she was bipolar. I can tell you this, it was hard to deal with her problems plus try to ease the way I feel about it. The biggest problem for me was to be able to, after being with her and hearing her fight with her mom and sister to go home and try to tell myself that its just how she is and not to worry about it. But allot of the time it tore me apart. I couldn't help her because she didn't want my help, she wanted to do what she wanted and anything else was just a attack on her. It was a condition that I was just not ready for. But I remember that I was always there for her and anything she needed, even after I would help her so much give her everything she needed or what I thought would make her feel better. After I gave her as much as I could and told her everything I thought would help her, or at least was my good advice, it all came down to her. She will not let you help her unless she wants the help. Thats what broke me apart.

I told her so many times that she needed to stay away from this drug or that drug because its going to destroy her. But she didn't listen, at first I thought it was because she didn't like me but it was just because she didn't want to tell me how she felt because she was so angry at everything else she didn't know how to tell me. Or at least she didn't understand.

The thing is, and i'm not a pro at this, is to tell yourself its not you, she's having trouble with her self and you can only help her as much as she wants. Just be there for her, I know you heard it before but, you just have to find a way to ease yourself or it will drive you crazy.. Try talking to her about it..

Jacob - w,
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paramedicman
replied on May 11th, 2005
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Actually
You know what man, it may not be a good thing to talk to her about it, that could, as you know spark something. Just be there for her thats all I can say. You can only do as much as your mind will let you...
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halfmoon
replied on May 15th, 2005
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Regarding Those Delusions . . .
I have just started seeing a guy who is bipolar. I am so glad to have found this forum because I thought I was the one who was going crazy. It is good to hear what others have to say about this. This guy can be the sweetest guy in the world and then turn around and be verbally abusive. I have been confronting him with his behavior because I think that is the only way I can possibly stay in the relationship. From what I have heard from other people I think he needs an increase in the dosage of his medication and I am working on getting him to the doctor as he has not been in a while. We aren't kids . We are both in our 50's.
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halfmoon
replied on May 15th, 2005
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Regarding Those Delusions . . .
I have just started seeing a guy who is bipolar. I am so glad to have found this forum because I thought I was the one who was going crazy. It is good to hear what others have to say about this. This guy can be the sweetest guy in the world and then turn around and be verbally abusive. I have been confronting him with his behavior because I think that is the only way I can possibly stay in the relationship. From what I have heard from other people I think he needs an increase in the dosage of his medication and I am working on getting him to the doctor as he has not been in a while. We aren't kids . We are both in our 50's.
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long viewer
replied on May 19th, 2005
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People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
She has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".

If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.

Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.
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long viewer
replied on May 19th, 2005
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People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
She has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".

If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.

Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.
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BPjoe23
replied on October 11th, 2005
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Re: People Think That Being Bipolar Makes You Not Human
long viewer wrote:
she has a disorder, she isn't another species. Treat her like she were a really emotional person, because that is what she is. That whole big jazz about not wanting their significant others help is crap- this is a very very serious disease that cannot be helped just by saying, "i want to be there for you".


If you really want to help her encourage her to get treatment, and point out when her mood seems less than her normal state. This will give her the motivation to want to change.


Lying is not a symptom of mania that I know of, maybe it is just the way she is and she is more inclined to lie when she is not of normal mood. She may believe the things that she says, which isn't typically lying.


right I couldn't of said it better my self. You should tell her the truth but use caution. Be like lately to me it seems you been up/or down I just wanted to point that out to you. Which ever case it may be. If you truely love them you are going to be there for them no matter what and give the support and encourgement. It amazing to read half these post and it all "well I loved him, but he was so etc etc etc,but you end up leaving, I question if you people where really in love. You have to remind bipolar people have a illness a disorder there's things called therapist,and relationship/marrage counstlers(sp?)
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poetprose
replied on October 29th, 2005
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Re: Delusions
paul_ wrote:
i found out earlier in the week that my girlfriend has bipolar disorder, I realised today that it's much more serious that I had previously thought it was after she had a relapse and was admitted to hospital. The problem is that yesterday she said something awful about her father (which caused a lot of trouble), which is untrue. She's not a liar, she just believed so strongly that what she said was true.


My problem is what to do if something like this happens again, am I supposed to be sympathetic and believe (or at least pretend) to believe what she says, or am I supposed to tell her what I really think, which is that she's delusional. I know that the latter will be likely to upset her, and she'll refuse to admit it. The problem is also that in future, how am I supposed to know whether she is telling the truth? I suppose if she is in a manic state, it might be a giveaway, but to be honest; yesterday I didn't even notice that she was in a manic state.


I really don't know anything about bipolar disorder, if anybody can offer any helpful advice or if you have any links to interesting articles etc. I'd greatly appreciate it.


Thanks.



hello!! I am diagnosed with bipolor type 1,

i understand dellusions, let me explain how overpowering they are...


4 yrs ago in the throws of a full fledged "mania" I believed so strongly that everyone should just get a divorce at 40 that there should be a law telling people to divorce

so I filed for divorce but told my hubby( husband) he could come over on weekends to sleep with me if he wanted, but that we had to get divorced (how crazy is that)

i was also convinced that my husband was a spy.... Lol

i was caught , captured and medicated.... Thank goodness the whole divorce thing only endedup costing me a few hundred dollars , it could have been alot worse.....So in that case the medication was a must
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March2009
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Is there a light at the end of the tunnel?
Hi guys, My brother has bipolar one, he is experiencing extreme delusions- getting more extreme over the past 9 months. He gets very angry when anyone doesn't believe him- or questions logistics, it breaks my heart to see my brother like this and how this is affecting my family. I need to know, do the delusions subside? Does anyone have a treatment recomendation or anything that helped them or a loved one. Thanks alot!!
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meh2008
replied on April 6th, 2009
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my delusions...
I'm pretty aware of myself now and my problem- I hope this helps? I only just admitted to my sister how paranoid and delusional I am at times- its embarrassing u know anyways...i live w/ my bf who is the most trustworthy guy but I insist he's cheating on me and it gets bad (atleast i know now its crazy and he knows i am being retarded, unlike ur person?) About a month er so ago I strongly beleived he had a secret phone-which I actually to this day swear I saw him check in the middle of the nite -he didn't-and I thought he was hiding a woman in the garage and that he was sneaking out once I had fallen asleep to do her. I don't believe that anymore i had to tell myself that its impossible, he wouldn't do that, its insane and even tho i swear i saw him check a secret phone I know it can't exist so I had to tell myself so and remind myself that I'm making things up.

Lately its just been little things I make up scenarios where he's cheating on me and it really upsets him cuz i seriously think he's doing them, now that he knows I have a problem he's coping better w/ me annoying him all the time-I'm trying but our relationship lately has been really rocky and i know its all my fault I'm scared now that he'll leave me-cuz just cuz I'm bipolar doesn't mean he has to stay w/ me u know-if i were him im sure i wouldn't want to deal w/ me and my delusions and my mood swings either. I'm just praying now. What have you people heard regarding fish oil and vitamin B i don't want to take serious drugs-that's why i haven't seen a doctor in that sense but I really want this relationship to work and I need to start doing something about this cuz I haven't been getting better.
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vixenroxangel
replied on April 21st, 2009
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bipolar delusions
I suffer from biplar disorder and i has wrecked my life. People with bipolar need understanding as with medication they can get better. i had extreme delusions during my second breakdown where i went about saying that my grandmother was the queen and i was related to paul mcartney. its embarrasiing and my illness has wrecked my marrriage and family life.
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MomSW
replied on April 23rd, 2009
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Bipolar Delusions
My daughter was at the age of eleven when she accused my husband of touching her inappropriately. She expressed to us then that she lied about it. We had her see a psychiatrist soon after but she would often lie to her. She went on to see 4 other therapists afterwards.She had a great relationship with my husband and 7 years later she went to college and snapped and later says it did happen. We went throught DCFS, Church officials, my parents it was horrible. Now she is diagnosed with bipolar on meds and she wants to come home to me and my husband. Stick with the person you love. They dont understand. Delusions, lies, outburts it is all hurtful, but dont take it personal, it is the disorder and not the person. I had to learn that. Stay encouraged!
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purpelelephant
replied on April 24th, 2009
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Isn't bipolar personality caused by abuse like other personality disorders?
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Samsone
replied on June 2nd, 2009
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My brother has just been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and he is very delusional thinking he is famous and influential and various other things too detailed to go into. He doesn´t believe thay they are delusions however much we try to tell him, how can we may him see reality? Thanks.
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robinsong5
replied on August 19th, 2009
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Bipolar Delusions
One of my best friends is bipolar and during an episode he got it into his mind that I did something wrong to him (I have no idea what and he won't tell me). He won't talk to me, has asked me not to contact him via email, nothing. I'm afraid of calling him because it will likeley set him off too. This episode started up last week and has continued. I had no intention of walking away, but I don't know how to "be there" for someone who has shut me out. Any ideas? Please?
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catnip43
replied on August 22nd, 2009
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I joined this forum because I googled bipolar and delusions. I've been diagnosed with BP2 since '96 and managed to get into all these online relationships with other bipolars and even "hooked up" with them. I no longer have happy "manias" but "irritable" ones. Anyway to the point I managed to get myself in another internet relationship with a guy 2000 miles away. He's bipolar I and off his meds. He talks so fast on the phone I'm always having to ask him to repeat himself. I confided in him about my "dire" financial situation and he claimed he had sent me a Fedex box containing a broadband card, two $500 money orders and a Best Buy Card worth $500. It never came I questioned him and he's telling me Fedex lost it. He claims he doesn't have the tracking number. And it gets better, he said he bought me a 20K car and it was to arrive yesterday. I feel so stupid for falling for this crap. Listening to his pissing and moaning and threats of suicide drove me so crazy, I almost lost it last night. I have turned off my phone and haven't talked to him since yesterday. Sorry to make this so long. Question is, is THIS kind of behavior considered "delusional". I mean why would he claim he's sending me money and a car and I have yet to see a dime? He has taken me for a ride and emotionally has "drained" my batteries. Any advice? I need to cut this relationship off, but now he knows my phone number and is constantly texting and calling me. I feel so stupid for falling for his promises and crap.
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K10
replied on September 6th, 2009
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Delusions - Hard to Understand from the "Outside"
My sister suffers from bipolar disorder and was just hospitalized. She is completely convinced that everyone including herself and her daughters have been victims of child (including sexual) abuse despite having no evidence whatsoever to support this belief. She keeps talking about need to get to "the truth" and is extremely afraid her daughters are in danger with their father (her husband). She refuses to talk to her husband and refuses to talk to anyone but me as a person she trusts. She told me not to communicate with my dad, our brother, and least of all her husband. If I tell them anything, she'll be forced to cut me off too and not talk to me. She asked me to give her my word. I did so and am respecting my promise because I am seemingly the ONLY person she can trust and I KNOW she desperately needs to feel that SOMEONE is in her corner. I know her husband is suffering terribly from this shut out and her mistrust of him (not to mention the impact on her 3 young daughters). She stopped taking her meds a few days ago so I am only hoping that with time in the hospital and the resumption of her meds, she'll get some relief. The worst part is that I live in another country so need to figure out when is the right time to go to her. In the meantime, I'll just keep talking to her on the phone to reassure her.
It is really hard for me to get my head around these delusions as she sounds so "normal" when I speak to her and she is 100% convinced that her daughters are in danger.
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robinsong5
replied on September 8th, 2009
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The friend that I spoke of before insisted that I learn everything I can about bipolar so that I could understand. I went out and bought books, researched on the web, and started reading and learning and was really amazed to see something of what it's like for someone to live with BP. It really opened my eyes to his suffering and I felt like I was on my way to being able to handle it better when he got upset with me.

After the last post, we did come to a place of at least kind of emailing a little bit with one another. As time went on, he started putting me off, and sometimes sending flip, abrupt emails to me, and then I was faced with the chance to talk to him. It went really badly. I couldn't tell if he was in an episode or was just being cruel and by then, I had had enough. He was formally cutting me of by then and I couldn't get in a word and had nothing to lose. Unfortunately I lost it; and there's probably no way for us to reconcile.

I'm left with the question that I'm sure that many people have--How do you know when it's bipolar talking or just a person being a jack***? I don't think it's a coincidence that he cut me off right after I put him in touch with people who could make his long term musician's dream come true. In my opinion, (and the reason that I really lost it and told him off) he used me as far as he needed to, hiding behind his diagnosis all the while, and then just cut me off altogether once he had what he was looking for. He is now the front man for his band playing at clubs, when two months ago, he didn't even know any musicians in the area.

Of course, I'll never really know and that's the really hard part. We shared a wonderful friendship (I thought)--shared all kinds of personal and intimate details about ourselves, laughed together, had a good time together. One of the last things he said (in a rational conversation) was that he really trusted me and thought of me as family and that's why he could tell me about his bipolar. The next day he had already stopped speaking to me.

I feel badly about cussing him out in case it really has been the bipolar I've been dealing with for all these weeks. But just how badly do you let someone treat you, all in the name of their illness??
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amycdero
replied on October 5th, 2009
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To help or not to help?
As a bipolar I patient, I have had many different symptoms from paranoid delusions and hallucinations to hearing voices and grandiose feelings. Support is extremely important but medication saved my life. It is always necessary to tell the person when their behavior is changing because they don't always know and it only gets worse as it progresses. You can be that stopping point by simply telling them whats going on (in a really nice way and make sure that while they are stable you both agree to this). Here is a list of medication I have tried and if they worked
Lamictal- 300mg I take it everyday and it really helps stablize my mood.
Seroquel-150 mg this little gem got the zombies out of my head and was my saving grace this last episode.
Risperdal- 1mg It helped in the past but made me very lathargic and numb, also, it didn't work a second time.
Invega- This medicine didn't work at all and I have an allergic reaction to it.

and remember, medication didn't change who I am, it got rid of the disease that did.
There is help out there make sure you have a good psychiatrist and doctor you can turn to.
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