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hunkirg
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Location: manitoba
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Ileanne
Posted: 07-22-05 14:47pm
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It sounds to me as if you have sz. It is
not the big scary thing most of us
"normal" people treat it as. I know you
are finding normal people kinda scary
right now because it has seemed maybe like
they are untrustworthy, because you have
seen them lie to each other and pretend it
is the truth. The truth is a
schizophrenic is just a person who's mind
does not understand deception as normal
people do. This is not your fault.
Although you have been made to feel it is.
"normal" people , well most of us really
don't think we are being deceptive, though
logically you are correct. Do you have
any questions?
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 07-25-05 12:32pm
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I find it hard to trust a lot of people
now, it's hard for me to believe that
everyone's not racist. My parents try to
make me feel guilty for my anxiety, they
tell me i'm not normal and that it's my
fault.
I don't know any questions, I don't think.
I'm seeing a psychologist now but we're
tackling my emetophobia because it's my
most crippling problem. He really does
not think I have schizophrenia, I brought
it up a little bit, but not as in depth as
on my computer. He doesn't think I have
anything, although he says voices aren't
normal.
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hunkirg
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Location: manitoba
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Posted: 07-25-05 15:39pm
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Your psychologist is dead wrong. He is
not understanding that they way he reacts
is making it impossible for you to tell
him everything. What is creating your
fears are those reactions from "normal"
people like your psycologist and parents.
They do not understand what the truth of
schizophrenia is. Is there any way you
could get either your parents or
psycologist to read my posting step 1
hunkirg. I believe if you can get them
to do that they will be able to understand
what is happening and how to truly help.
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 07-29-05 14:14pm
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Thanks. I will print out all the posts in
this topic, if you think that will help.
I can also tell him more stuff, I kept a
journal that's like 20 pages long. I
don't think i'm schizophrenic but it could
happen.
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slam
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: 07-30-05 12:54pm
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So far you have pychosis. If you are
tired with the voices , take medication.
Minimum dose should be enough.
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hunkirg
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Location: manitoba
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Posted: 07-30-05 13:19pm
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Well the problem with meds is that it is
not a sudden chemical change that causes
it , the meds used slow down a persons
bility to think and put things together.
Most sz will remain dellusional, you just
learn not to be honest about it. That
does not help fix the cause. The cause
is not being able to understand deception
us normal people use. For instance the
dr's he is treated with respect for his
"good work". The truth is his work is
full of selfish motives (financial gain)
and that is exactly what creates the
problem, the sz sees this but when all us
"normal" people say the Dr. Just wants to
help. I am planning on a trip to belize,
I am in manitoba (canada). If it would
be helpful, I would be happy to try and
plan for a stop, and I would be happy to
talk to you and your parents. It would
probably take just an hour, I am going to
belize to do volunteer work with sz so I
certainly would be willing to do that ( no
cost, no worry). If you want you can
post or e-mail me at glenhun
kin@lycos.Com my girlfriend was
diagnosed with sz in april, she is on no
meds and is not having any
dellusions/hallucinations. Sz is
beatable if you and your parents can
really understand. An hours time for a
better life is something all deserve.
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slam
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: 07-30-05 18:12pm
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I think your girlfriend was diagnosed to
early. Maybe she only had psychosis.
Psychosis is like a runny nose to a cold.
The cold is schizophrenia. Psychosis is
a symptom not an illness.
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 08-02-05 00:09am
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| hunkirg
wrote: | | well the problem with meds
is that it is not a sudden chemical change
that causes it , the meds used slow down a
persons bility to think and put things
together. Most sz will remain
dellusional, you just learn not to be
honest about it. That does not help fix
the cause. The cause is not being able
to understand deception us normal people
use. For instance the dr's he is
treated with respect for his "good work".
The truth is his work is full of selfish
motives (financial gain) and that is
exactly what creates the problem, the sz
sees this but when all us "normal" people
say the Dr. Just wants to help. I am
planning on a trip to belize, I am in
manitoba (canada). If it would be
helpful, I would be happy to try and plan
for a stop, and I would be happy to talk
to you and your parents. It would
probably take just an hour, I am going to
belize to do volunteer work with sz so I
certainly would be willing to do that ( no
cost, no worry). If you want you can
post or e-mail me at glenhun
kin@lycos.Com my girlfriend was
diagnosed with sz in april, she is on no
meds and is not having any
dellusions/hallucinations. Sz is
beatable if you and your parents can
really understand. An hours time for a
better life is something all
deserve. |
as much as I would like to (i really
would) but my parents would be furious to
find out i'm even talking to people online
about this.
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 08-02-05 00:10am
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wrote: | | so far you have pychosis.
If you are tired with the voices , take
medication. Minimum dose should be
enough. |
that was a while ago, the voices stopped,
and if they started again, I wouldn't mind
them. In fact, I was disappointed when
they stopped.
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slam
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: 08-02-05 12:57pm
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It can come back in one year:) it's too
soon to say you are not psychotic.
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JoshGSchizophreniaNIN
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: 08-04-05 06:59am
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I disagree to some of these posts.
I realize there are different kinds of
schizophrenia, and I am not a doctor, by
any means. But I have been diagnosed
recently with schizophrenia, and I can try
to use my "antennae" and experience with
seeing mental health professionals to
relate/help/advise.
Yfguitarist, only judging from your posts,
I do not think you have schizophrenia.
It sounds as though you may have ocd,
anxiety, and maybe paranoid personality
disorder. Perhaps your previous
hallucinations and stuff were just
temporary and not becasue of
schizophrenia. Do you take any drugs or
drink alcohol? Did the psychologist you
saw ask you these questions? They have
to rule out certain things before coming
to a schizophrenia conclusion.
But I have no clue how your sessions are
going. If he concludes you have no
"mental illness," then I believe he is
right. It would seem that many people
get anxious or obsessive every now and
then and paranoid. But to warrant an
abnormal mental "disorder" diagnosis from
a mental health professional, there must
be a lot more to it. The dsm iv, what
they look for, if you are suffering, if
they consider you a "neurotypical" or if
you do have some sort of chemical
imbalance or whatnot.
Schizophrenia is not just about delusions
and hallucinations, though they're part of
it in a lot of cases. Bear in mind that
is a thought disorder. With social
problem aspects.
Josh
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JoshGSchizophreniaNIN
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: 08-04-05 07:03am
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Illeane,
i'm not sure. But from your post, it
seems to me you do not have sz.
It sounds like some social anxiety.
Maybe borderline/bi poloar tendencies?
Anger management problems? Severe
depression?
Something like that maybe. I think
people are mislead when they think of
"hearing voices". I think there is a
possiblie that a schizophrenic will
actually "hear voices" and stuff. But I
also think it refers to something else.
Like difficulty thinking and having to
rely on the subconscious to function. So
when has to think, it comes in the head
like fragmented thoughts/voices ... The
overall picture of this thought difficulty
would seem to a hallmark of a kind of
sz.
As far as your "cutting" goes and such.
I don't know. Suicidal tendencies?
Again, depression?
But I don't think you have sz, imho.
Josh
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 08-04-05 14:53pm
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Josh, I do'n't take any drugs or drink
alcohol. My psychologist didn't ask me
these questions. I don't get anxious or
obsessive every now and then, it's a
nonstop thing for me.
Slam, I hope so.
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Margy Jo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Cannot Function At All.. a Symtom of Schizophrenia
Posted: 08-24-05 22:45pm
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I cannot function at all. I don't know
what the .... Is wrong with me. Does
anyone feel the same I do? I just had
another child 5 mos. Ago. It seems a
lot worse now, no energy etc.
Overwhelmed? Depressed? Too much
responsibilities? I get up and try to do
something and I end up colapsing all over
again. I just found out my father who
died when I was nine had schizophrenia.
Is that a symptom? Or a warning? Am I
getting it? Or am I just being paranoid
..................................Aaaaaaaa
aaahh
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slam
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: 08-25-05 11:17am
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Be glad you don't have hallucinations
because that is worst. At this point
you have to wait and see. Doctors will
not know.
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 08-27-05 20:01pm
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wrote: | | be glad you don't have
hallucinations because that is worst.
At this point you have to wait and see.
Doctors will not
know. |
if I at least had hallucinations i'd know
for sure. But you're right. Maybe
someday i'll get this whole thing figured
out and i'll get better, even if it means
seeing a psychiatrist.
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yfguitarist
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: 09-22-05 16:10pm
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If I concentrate I can see a fog start to
form briefly, or everything turns grey and
blurry.
I also concentrate on my reflection and my
face gets smudged to one color and my
mouth shifts and my eyes point in all
directions and I grin and my face morphs
and it’s frightening.
The other day I woke up and saw that
instead of my arms in front of me, there
was the wicked witch of the west’s legs,
covered in black stockings. I
concentrated and it turned into my arms.
Also, i’ve had the same thing happen
where I saw a grinning corpse’s face in
front of me when I awoke and it paralyzed
me with fear until I saw that it was my
pillow. It creeped me out the rest of the
day.
I think whatever I experienced before has
come back. The walls are moving.
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am i schizo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 19
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Am I Schizophrenic
Posted: 09-26-05 07:31am
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Im 17 and am really confused. I know I
have social anxiety,low self esteem,manic
deppreasion and possibly a eating
disorders as I am goin 2 see a diet
trishion soon but im worried I could be
schizophrenic because of the amount of
cannibiss I have smoked and now I cant
trust any1 I feel like my family and
friends r against me conspiring even my
doctors in on it. Ive been comeing more
and more paranoid and am now out of work
cause of it. Its driveing me insane I
have loads of the symptoms but am still
unsure and ive heard that family,friends
and doctors dont tell schizophrenics that
they r and it can be made worse by finding
out but really need help finding out as I
cant even sit wiv friends without being
paranoid or thinking that they r saying
things about me which might just be miss
understanding them. I dont really hear
vioces but I have always known sumthing
was different about me but nobody would
tell me I just keep drifting off in2 a
world of my own and have been selfharming
even worse 8tly wiv needing stitches I
litterly find it a struggle 2go out of my
house anymore and even my old friends r
starting 2 say things bout me like ive
turned in2 a retard or im crazy. And ova
the past years it has started 2 lead 2 me
abuseing alchol and drugs more as its the
only way I can cope with wots goin on
inside my head. I feel like every1 is
against me and wants me dead.
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