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Have had lower back, abdominal and left testicle pain for several months..Been told had epidymitis (spelling?) put on 3 different antibiotics, went to urologist..He said not epidymitis and did ultrasound to rule out testicular cancer...Came back normal, as did urine test.

He said could be associated with a back injury ; certain nerves effect the back causing you to feel pain in other areas (kind of like the siatic (spelling?) nerve.

Has anyone ever had this problem? I am so frustrated and sick of being in pain all the time. As soon as I start feeling "ok" to do things as soon as I do..Wow the pain is sometimes unbareable...Especially in the testicle area...Gets very swollen and uncomfortable (an almost heavy feeling).

Help!!!
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replied April 24th, 2005
Yup
Did all the same test and even thought it was a kidney stone (had them in the past and you will get testical pain). But it all turned out to be my lower back. Several trips to the chiropractor and stretching, the pain in my nuts slowly went away with the back pain.
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replied May 3rd, 2005
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Jon1006,

dysfunction in the back can absolutely lead to pain in the testicles. Genital referrals of pain are common in disc pain patients. If the doctor has not found anything with lab testing, I suggest looking at your structural alignment. Make sure you have normal bowel movements as well. You should be passing about 12 inches of stool per day and in optimal health you will find that your stool should be light brown and float. I cannot stress enough how important internal organ health is to address before structural problems. In terms of importance, in the presence of internal organ dysfunction, your body will devote its resources to healing that first, then it will deal with physical dysfunctions. Do you have excess bodyfat? Do you exercise? Eat clean food? What is your lifestyle like? These things will give you a clue as to what areas in your body need to be addressed.

Sam visnic nmt
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replied December 18th, 2007
Testicle Pain
Yes, Yes Yes! There is someone else with that pain. My husband has always been a hard worker. Two years ago had a severe back pain.
A MRI revealed several bulging discs, a ruptured disc, arthritis and spurs.
Two surgeons looked at the MRI's and said nothing was pressing on nerves, so there was nothing they could do and they didn't know why he was in pain. According to them as long as the bulges (one severe) and rupture didn't press on nerves there should be no pain? I don't get it.
One doctor even shrugged and suggested maybe he had a urinary tract infection. (Yeah, right, for 7 months. )He had another disc rupture and had surgery for that. He has had 3 epiderals. All the pain is still there. Some days worse than others.
We have also found out he has spinal stenosis. He is on morphine patches and oxycodin(sp?) At 47, he is no longer able to work-pretty hard on a guy that loved to work. We are at a loss right now. He has gone from a busy, athletic man that has never tried drugs to a guys who has to sit alot and rely on painkillers.
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replied December 19th, 2007
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Hello John,

Thanks for starting a most important thread. I have back pain, but at this time no pain of the testicles.

It HURTS just to think of the pain you are in.

May I suggest that you turn your efforts into finding a very well respected and versed spinal surgeon who is also very knowledgeable in the urology area. May be difficult to find, but give it a try. Some doctor out there knows of the type of pain you have described here, and will be able to advice you on how best to solve the problem.

I'm going to do a little "Googling" and see what I come up with. Though you most likely have also done this.

RichT
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replied December 19th, 2007
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Back again John,

Well, it didn't take much searching to realize you and others on this thread are not alone. And a lot report that the antibiotics, etc. did nothing to reduce the pain.

I did find one interesting bit of info on the following web site

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/neuro/messag es/30137.html

Of speciial note is in the original post - "My therapist says there is a nerve
at T12 that runs to the testicle." Also read the "Doctor's Answer" post.

At this time I did not find any info from doctors/clinics, etc., but will look some more.

RichT

P.S. - Go to Google and type in "pinched nerve causing testicular pain". Much info. Check out Spondylolisthesis site. Read 6th paragraph.
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replied March 7th, 2012
Hi there
I am also suffering from the same back and testical pain.
and in my case thats because of the disc bulge at L5 S1, pinching the S1 nerve root. resulting in this pain. I am on pills for now. Doctor says hopefully its gonna vanish in about a month or 6 week's time.
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replied December 22nd, 2007
Back Pain And Testicular Pain
Hello John,

I am assuming that you have already been checked for a Hernia, as fat from the abdominal cavity can enter the scrotum ( scrotum).

how ever, i would suggest that you do some abdominal exercises and build up the strength of your abdomen gradually....
the cremaster muscle ( the muscle which supports the testicle) is part of the side abdominal muscles and these muscles have an attachment to the spine so it would be consistant with your pain pattern.

testicular cancer usually refers pain to an area 5 inches above the low back region and this is due to the nerve supply of the testicles and penis which is higher up than the limbs hence men can become paralised in their legs but still preserve function of the sex organs.

good luck
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replied December 28th, 2007
Testicle Pain
I can say without a doubt that back pain refers to the testicles. I have been diagnosed with a disc extrusion at L5-S1 and it continually feels like I slipped off a bicycle seat. Any guys remember those days? I'm due to get another snrb Jan. 4th. I'm hoping it helps. If not I guess it's back to the neuro surgeon.
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replied December 30th, 2007
Back Pain And Testicular Pain
I met a gentleman at Bonati Institute who had Back pain with testicular pain. He had one surgery while at Bonati at L5/S1 a foramintomy and laminotomy. This did not relieve his testicular pain. Bonati doctors had informed him before surgery he would probably need more than one surgery at T12-L1.

I also found the following information on the web and hope it is useful for those with this condition. Please note I am not a Doctor but only trying to help because this forum and the Laser Spine forum have helped my son.

See below:

Unsuccessful recognition of the origin of testicular pain and a high failure rate of surgical interventions lead to poor outcomes, psychologic distress, and increased costs of care. A frequently overlooked cause of testicular and buttock pain is irritation of the T10-L1 sensory nerve roots, the genitofemoral nerve, and the ilioinguinal nerve. We present the case of a 36-year-old policeman with a 5-year history of back pain and testicular pain of unknown origin. Physical examination of the thoracolumbar region revealed that active movement provoked the patient’s buttock symptoms, and local mobility restrictions were present in the thoracolumbar region. A central disk protrusion at T12-L1 was noted on upper lumbar spine magnetic resonance imaging, which supports dysfunction of this region. The diagnosis of thoracolumbar stiffness led to implementation of passive and active mobilization of that region and to specific hip stretching and strengthening exercises. After a course of direct and guided physical therapy, the patient attained complete symptom resolution. The patient returned to full work duties as a police officer and resumed his full recreational activity. The excellent outcome achieved in managing this patient was attributed to identifying the origin of referred pain from the thoracolumbar junction

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replied January 6th, 2008
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Testicular pain is generally associated with a problem in the S2 or S3 nerve roots. So long as any pathology has been ruled out and you aren't experiencing any numbness there, though painful, it's most likely not dangerous. They ruled out varicocele? That can cause a lot of testicular pain. It's a large varicose vein leading to the testes that requires surgery to correct. Try using ice to the sacrum, Ibuprophen three times a day, and perhaps visiting with a really good physical therapist.
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replied January 10th, 2008
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If pelvis is malaligned and you have curves on spine (extended lordosis + scoliosis) you can get pinced nerve that causes problems to testicules area.
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replied May 1st, 2008
Pain in back and testicles
I'm a 39-yr-old suffering intense pain in both testicles and lower back. The pain started 11 years ago, after a very difficult bowel movement. Later the same evening I noticed pain in one testicle. Woke up the next day to excruciating pain in back and both testicles. I'm almost sure the pain is referred from my back to my testicles, as the level of pain is consistent in both areas.

My physical life is very limited: I can't exercise-- no running, bike riding, or moderate to heavy lifting of any kind. Dating is close to impossible, as the pain is overwhelming during sex. I have to wear loose-fitting pants, since I'm in agony whenever anything comes into contact with my testicles.
Both testicles change shape (droop) when I'm in the most pain.

I've been to urologists, a neurosurgeon, an orthopedic surgeon and pain specialists. Tried cotal (sp?) blocks, cortisone shots, chiropractic, acupuncture, anti-inflammatories, and pain meds that barely help. Only thing I haven't tried is surgery.

Anyone have suggestions? Thank you in advance!
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replied February 24th, 2014
how are you doing now?
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replied February 24th, 2014
how are you doing now?
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replied May 2nd, 2008
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Re: Pain in back and testicles
PDX303 wrote:

I've been to urologists, a neurosurgeon, an orthopedic surgeon and pain specialists. Tried cotal (sp?) blocks, cortisone shots, chiropractic, acupuncture, anti-inflammatories, and pain meds that barely help. Only thing I haven't tried is surgery.

Anyone have suggestions? Thank you in advance!

What the chiropractic diagnosed to you?
You could try an osteopathian. You maght have twisted pelvis.
Can you check if your legs seem different length?

Sportsinjury Clinic:
"The pain may radiate out into your buttocks and low back and will often radiate to the front into the groin. Occasionally it is responsible for pain in the testicles among males."

Your Medical Detective
"People with this condition usually experience localized pain in the low back, as well as pain in the groin, testicle, hip or back/front of the thigh, but rarely below the knees."

BanBackPain.
"Radiating pain can travel into the buttock and upper thigh and even affect the testicles on males."

You just need to find a good manual terapist who know about pelvis malalignments. There are not many of them in the whole world...
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replied June 12th, 2008
back pain referral to testicular pain
This is something I have seen often and have experienced my self.
I am a Motion Palpation Chiropractor. Sacroilliac Joint dysfunction (SIJ) can cause irritation to the illiolumbar ligaments that when irritated can radiate pain to the testes. Most frequently when staining down, particularly on the morning John.

As posted on this thread the TL region can cause refferral L1 dermatome/sclerotome. These are two Transition zone regions that are often fixated/subluxated. Most side posture Chiro adjustments often miss the SIJ. Find a good Motion Palpation Chiro for some relief. The results should be immediate (3-4 visits) if this is the cause of the testicular pain. Look for a Sports Medicine Chiro or Sports injury Chiro.

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replied June 12th, 2008
back pain referral to testicular pain
I found this link to a PT case study on this type of pain.
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pi i/S0003999303002831

Razz
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replied June 13th, 2008
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Hi,sorry to know it.
i'm not doctor in UK,but I have practised in other country hospital for long time.I have a lot of cases which is very similar.
I think that you suffer from soft tissue injury around lower back and thigh root area due to spine degeneration which can lead to conductible pain and numbness in groin and testicle pain. and maybe affect your sexual function as well.

I just quoted a few cases from my blog for you.( acupuncture.blog.co.uk)

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Zak acupuncture for lower abdomen abdominal distention, abdominal pain, groin pain case
by Acupuncturist @ 2008-05-07 - 14:44:57
M, female, 60-year-old, six months ago, suffering from urinary tract infection, the hospital examination, found no cause. Bilateral abdominal pain, groin pain, unable to walk a long time.

Clinical examination: straight-leg raising test, both are 45 °, leads the medial thigh pain, pain at the knee medial radioactive bilateral suprapubic tenderness highly sensitive point, the hip flexor knees at a consolidated trial, leads to the roots of thigh pain, Diagnosis: Bilateral thigh soft tissue damage to the thigh roots pain and groin pain.

Treatment: zak acupuncture
Results: After a period of treatment, symptoms disappeared.
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Zak acupuncture for sexual intercourse pain case
by Acupuncturist @ 2008-05-07 - 15:46:51
W, female, 45 years old, lower abdominal pain for nine years, perineal pain for 14 years, accompanied by menstrual pain, sexual intercourse pain, frequency and urgency, particularly in the menstrual period, after hospital treatment, are not effective, pain remains ,can't lateral thigh, can not walk step.

Clinical examination: straight-leg raising test both are 70 °, the roots of bilateral thigh have severe pain. Other inspection normal, the diagnosis: bilateral, the roots of the thigh, a soft-tissue damage, caused the abdominal pain, genital pain, pain in sexual intercourse.

Treatment: zak acupuncture
Results: After a period of treatment, symptoms disappeared.

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Zak acupuncture for scrotal pain case
by Zak on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:52 pm

W, male, 49 years old, left scrotal pain and the sense of falling for eight months, no history of trauma, pain affect walking

Clinical examination: straight-leg raising test negative, tenderness at the root of bilateral thigh highly sensitive 'knees hip flexor legs at the root of test leads to thigh pain, diagnosed as: Bilateral thigh soft tissue damage to the roots of scrotal pain

Treatment: zak acupuncture
Results: After several cycles of treatment, all kinds of pain disappeared, patient feel satisfactive.
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Zak acupuncture for sexual dysfunction case
by Zak on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm

X, male, 44 years old, low back pain, for 11years,sacral pain, right leg pain for 1 year, and the right abdominal pain associated with urine frequency, urine urgency, and sexual dysfunction for 12 years, non-surgical therapy for six months, to no avail.

Clinical examination: Spinal no abnormal appearance, straight legs bending test hand fingertip 25 cm from the ground, straight leg extension waist limited test, have aroused increasing low back pain, straight-leg raising test Bilateral 85 °, the roots of both the waist and thighs highly sensitive point of tenderness, knees hip flexor legs at the root of test leads right thigh pain.

Treatment: zak acupuncture
Results: all Bilateral waist, sacrum pain, the abdominal pain, knee pain disappear, sexual dysfunction disappear, all kinds of inspections negative.

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So,deep and intensive acupuncture can help! Take care!
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replied January 24th, 2009
lower back and testicle pain!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the help. Very convinced that is my problem too! Gonna find a good chiropractor
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replied February 6th, 2009
Testical pain w/ lower back pain
WOW! My back surgeon should lose his medical liscense. He tells me that back pain CANNOT cause testicular pain. I thought I was going crazy. I am always in pain, my testicals hurt all the time. The only thing is is that my pain seems to jump from testical to testical (mostly in the left). I have had a microdiscectomy on L5. I am still in pain! More than when I started. Steroid injections also. I am at the end of my rope. Do I live with it the rest of my life? I take 10/325 Percocet with very little relief.

Fed up 33 year old !!
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replied February 24th, 2014
any update?
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replied February 7th, 2009
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I would suggest that you get a another opinion from another spine specialist.

You present surgeon is 100% wrong.

Fran
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replied February 7th, 2009
Some of these stories really sound like my 37 year old husband. He doesn't sleep well at night because his back hurts alot. He says the pain radiates into his right groin feeling like it is pulling on his testicle. Once he's up and moving it is alot better and don't really bother him. He's a fit build standing 6'1 weighing 175 lbs. Very active hard worker. I think he lifts too heavy. I try to tell him he's not the young guy anymore. I think he should get it checked. Should he start with a chiropractor or his family doctor?
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