Mmm, I don't agree :lol:

Well, gosh, doesn't that just contribute a whole lot to a debate on abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong, oh boy, what a revelation. There ya go -- if you think it is wrong to have an abortion, then don't have one. Next?

was there really any need for this? The poster was merly expressing an opinion if you found no intrest in his opinion then surely the best option would be to just not respond.

so the debate forum is just for people who think abortion is ok?

I believe what poo was implying is that the debate forum is for debate. Inflammatory comments such as those which started this thread do not lead to meaningful dialogue on the issue. They, at least on this board, regularly lead to insulting matches. The comments and opinions while relevant to that person do not foster the idea of a free exchange of ideas.

I, myself, ignored them when I read them because I knew how they would end. I reply now only to try to keep people from resulting to insulting one another at this juncture.
Peace,
jenn

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i'm sorry, was I supposed to write a paragraph debating *that* topic? *laughs in your face*

run along, poo poo

sorry jenn but I cannot believe what I am reading here are you saying that it is ok for poopoo to make inflamatory comments,because has you can see it was inflammatory yet I see you are still only pulling pro lifers again.

Just because it is wrong in your eyes, does not make it wrong in other peoples eyes and lives and who are you or I that has the right to judge any pregnant female, especially those that are not financially and mainly psychologically ready to continue on w/pregnancy and fyi, bc does fail. You want more children out there running around being abused, neglected, molested, unfed, unloved because you insist on not allowing a pregnant female to abort, this is her right and her choice . I see this soooo much where the father of the fetus will practically beg the mother of the fetus to not have an abortion, that he will take care of all of them and then things blow up, he leaves or other things happen, she cannot go on and then the child suffers and then it gets dropped in social services lap.
Oh and then you might say that there is adoption, yea, and 51% of adoptions fail and alot of the adoptions end up in foster homes and they do not get adopted. People need to open up there minds and get out there and see what goes on in the real world.
Sincerely,
sandy

I agree w/ya, if ya don't want an abortion, then don't have one. Do not judge others for having one as you are not walking in there shoes.
Sincerely,
sandy

Well I see what you are trying to say I guess but why kill the baby because of her mistake the baby didn’t ask to be put inside of 'her' (a person that wont take care of herself) but it happened and its her fault not the baby’s, (so now would be a good time for her to grow up and take care of herself )so if she doesn't have enough responsibility to take care of it put it up for adoption.I believe that if someone tried and actually cared (which most ppl in the situation don't care)that they could find a good family for that baby! I understand that she will be going through alot during those 9months but.. She shouldnt have put herself in the position of something like that happening if she can't face the consequences. Thats my say. I will shut up now (i guess)

if you arent financially stable .. Thats why they have medicaid and other things like that

one more thing. Like I said be4... If you don't want a kid or don't want to go through pregnancy use your mind and use protection and if thats to hard keep your legs closed or keep ur stuff in your pants

(yes this is what I replied to someone else to, cause I said this is all I would say)

Thanks I wont have one. I may not be walking in there shoes you know why im not? Because first of all I wouldnt have an abortion and I myself wouldnt give it up for an adoption either and second of all if I didn't want a baby then I would be smart enough to use some form of protection

i am against abortion. Obviously you're not this is a debate and I will judge that I think abortion is wrong if I want to just like you can judge its not, thanks

I am not 100% for abortion either but I am pro-choice and I help those that want an abortion and those who do not want an abortion it is about being pro-choice, who I am and what I do and what I believe in.

Sincerely,
sandy

well, let's apply that to other things that some people may find wrong.
If you think terrorism is wrong, don't do it.
If you think rape is wrong, don't rape people.
If you think child molestation is wrong, don't molest.
Etc etc etc

so if your consolation to me is don't partake in what is damaging to society, but expect that I would not want to help minimize these tragic events from occuring, where would we really be if we all took your advice?

fine, but there is still only one truth. You're correct that one individual opinion does not necessarily speak for the entire truth, but all opinions are not equal. Some people see adults having sex with children as wrong. There are people who may disagree. It is still wrong.

"the tree comes to me."

well said.I agree!

.Again, as in the other thread, I responded to the first post that I saw that I thought I could better explain. Clearly, there was a misunderstanding present and I sought to illeviate the problem before it became an issue. I explained what I felt poo was saying but if you'd like, i'd be more than glad to disect this thread as I did the other one.

Lukitsme03's entire post which began this thread was inflammatory. It is not meant to foster a meaningful civil dialogue and I think we can all agree that it will only lead to a pissing contest.

Kourtney08 responded kindly that she simply disagrees. Oh, if only more people would take the higher road such as kourtney did.

Poo then responded with: poo, like I did with my post, was pointing out that the entire post which began this thread was only meant to inflame. Yes, poo's reply was inflammatory itself.

Lil_blaze2004 then responded with: in reply to poo's previous post. I believe that blaze missed the point of poo's post which is why I responded afterward in an attempt to clear up the misunderstanding.

I was merely trying to explain why poo posted what they did and what the actual point of their previous post was since it seemed to be leading to a misunderstanding.

In answer to your question, .No, I do not believe that it is "ok for poopoo to make inflammatory comments." I was not responding to *.Everyone's* inflammatory comments *.A.T. A.L.L.* I was actually responding to the misunderstanding that I felt was brewing. Again, just so that we're both straight on the issue, I was not pulling out instances of inflammatory speech. If I had been, then I would most certainly have included poopoo's statement. I was attempting to address a misunderstanding, *that is all*. If you can keep a misunderstanding from turning into an argument coupled with rounds of insults, then you should. I was only attempting to explain another's post to end the misunderstanding.
Peace,
jenn

while I think we can all agree that there are things that are completely wrong, with regards to abortion you cannot. Adults having sex with children is always wrong because it hurts a child who is incapable of understanding. Pedephilia(sp?) is a deviant disorder. However, it is not analogous to compare it with abortion.

If there were one absolute truth with regards to abortion, then we would all believe it without deviation. The principle would be easily seen and understood and no one would be able to falter against it. This is readily not the case. Many different people believe many different things with regards to abortion worldwide.

Adults who believe that it is not wrong to have sex with children are suffering under a deviant disorder. Therefore, discounting their obviously wrong, disordered opinions on the matter, you are left with everyone else who agrees on the consensus that adults having sex with children is wrong.

Conversely, even in spite of some people's opinions, there is no deviant thought process that can be discounted when considering the beliefs on abortion. Even people within the different camps (pro-choice and pro-life) believe differently. There are some pro-life people who believe that abortion should be illegal in some cases, others still believe that abortion should be legal for rape/incest, and still others believe in it within the first trimester but not at all after that.

If there was one objective truth even within the two camps, all who consider themselves one or the other would believe in those truths as they are and yet this is not the case. There is great variation on belief and none of the beliefs are inately wrong (unless you compare them to your own belief system).

Peace,
jenn

I can say 'post' what I want when I want you have your opinion and I will have mine because I said using the word invaded was wrong and saying my point of view of abortion if you think it is 'inflammatory ' then so be it , I dont care and I didnt continue reading the rest of that bullsh* you posted because it didnt interest me and I don't really care what you think or had to say just like you dont care what I say and think that what I said was inflammatory and stupid, usless.. Whatever u or anyone else thinks I dont give a damn you think its right or whatever you think, and I think its wrong. The end.

ah, such as "raspberries taste better than strawberries." either it is true or false, and surely there is only one truth, right?