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Melissa_20

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Posted: 02-06-06 13:40pm

glamorgirli wrote:
jiltedheart wrote:
1. Eric, those are some pretty harsh words. You shouldn't be passing judgement on people in here.


2. Marijuana is not a depressant. It is a hallucinagenic.


3. You can't put marijuana in the same catagory as cocaine, heroin, ect. It's not a manufacture substance. If so you should label alcohol and ciggettes as well. I can say this much. Alcohol is 10 times worst than any weed.
4. I have self medicated my depression with weed for many years. Without it I would probably be dead. I had to go through alot of bad crap at a very young age causing me to grow up way to quick. Later leading to suicidal thoughts. Weed just makes me not think about what bothers me. I don't drink or do any other drugs. Just pot.


ok I totally disagree with you
1. When I was in my loser rebelious stage trying weed,along with a few other drugs; I never remember seeing pink elephants or anything while smoking it so it can't be a hallucinagenic,( it would have to be laced with a nother drug) it never made me hyper so its definitly not a stimulent..What did it make me...Lazy! Oh and alcohol is labled as a drug if you havent heard! Its a depressant, why do you think people go to aa meetings?


2. Eric didn't seem as though he was passing judgment to me, he was simply telling you the harsh truth, drugs, including weed can ruin peoples lives, and not just the person whos doing them!


3. Self medicating yourself with weed and espically for depression, is the dumbest thing anyone can do! Your running away from the problems and not dealing with reality!!! When the drug wares away guess what? The problem is still there, so your just going to smoke another joint and kill some more brian cells! Hey maybe it will kill your memory, then you wont remember anything.. That might help!


4. Did you hear about the drug dealers surgiclly putting the drugs actually inside puppies. Why would you buy it from careless dealers like that dosn't matter what dealer your getting it from..........Just because of that anyone who buys any drug illegally is a worthless wast of oxygen in my book! Can you imagine how much pain the puppies were in!


5. I'm not against it being used medically! If it will help someone cope with cancer, ms, or any other dibilitating disease let them have it


I don't buy weed from people who put it in poor little puppies! And I am not a waste of oxygen and if you look it up it is not a hallucinagenic it i.S. A depressant.People go to aa meetings because they have problems with alcohol. Weed has a differnet affect on everyone and just because you were lazy does not mean it makes everyone else that way. I am not a loser and whoever labels them selves as a loser for smoking made themselves that way. I am not a loser, I have a nice job and I am smart so I see no problem with it unless it is abused!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-06-06 13:46pm

They wouldn't waste their time putting marijuanna in a puppy--it was either cocaine, meth or heroin in the puppy's. I know it was in a liguid form. And that is so sick for them to do stuff like that to those poor little puppy's.
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Melissa_20

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Posted: 02-06-06 14:10pm

I agree fatfamily, they should not be so cruel to animals! I saw this show on tv once where this guy put cocaine inside of breast implants and put them in girls so that he could get it into the us! I thought that was messed up.
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penelope67

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Posted: 02-21-06 18:50pm

It was heroin in the puppies for crying out loud. Marijuana is not a bad drug, but some people cannot use it because of psychological issues. Example-my best friend used to smoke every day, but then she couldnt anymore, because it made her feel really weird and out of touch, and just not right. She stayed in that mind set until she met a guy she really liked who smoked pot, and now she smokes again. It can be very psychological-it is not an addictive drug unless you rely on it mentally. There is no physical addiction. I've never heard of anyone having a marijuana withdrawal. I dont see in any way how pot can be bad. I think alcohol is way worse. Thats not to say anything, because I drink all the time. I smoke because it helps me relax when I get home, and it makes me feel good and it makes me happy. By the way, pot might make you feel like you are lazy but let me tell you my boyfriend gets motivated by it and I have found that I have never done a better job at anything then when I am high, because it really makes you focus. My boyfriend always says he is taking his focus factor. I am also a lot more intelligent when I smoke. My mind is open to so many more things when I am high. I am able to think conceptually rather than analytically and its very enlightening.
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Melissa_20

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Posted: 02-22-06 10:21am

Thank you penelope! Exactly what I wanted to say!
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 02-27-06 12:07pm

It has given me anxiety and made me depressed again
i have started halucinating dont touch the stuff drugs are evil
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Kimmeh

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Re: Marijuana
Posted: 02-27-06 12:32pm

erics_gem01 wrote:
let me tell you all something it should be used in medical purposes only... The reason why I say that is because my father did drugs and now he has ruined my family stay away from drugs they are stupid you don't need them listen to me....Drugs are for no good low down losers who can't keep a job so they need something to "relax" them grow up this is life you can't always have something to depend on....Don't ruin your life or someone elses


here here, i'm single and 9 months pregnant because of pot. It's just as bad as any other drugs out there...Just because you can't really overdose and .D.I.E off pot (you can get seriously dehydrated...And then die) doesn't mean it isn't just as stupid as doing coke, or meth, or anything else. I've never seen anyone of class smoke pot, it's all been trailertrash (ex, and his family included).

Maybe that's harsh and people who smoke it are reading this, but that's how I feel, pot ruined my life, and my "family". Someone that was supposed to love me decided that the drug was more important then his child and his "true love" as he put it. He grew up around his parents smoking it and thought that it was okay, but guess what, it's a drug, used to escape reality, i've tried it myself before and there is nothing great about it.

But if your all for it, well that's your choice I guess, and the best of luck too you. I hope you don't ruin somones life doing it.
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 02-27-06 18:26pm

Listen to the above if u do it now look at how u have changed it aint good for u and u know it kick it I did recently
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penelope67

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Posted: 02-27-06 18:58pm

I appreciate all the advice, but I explained myself above, and I believe pot makes me a better person in general, but I know many people that it makes them a much worse person. It is different for everyone. Its not nice to tell everyone that they had better stop doing something when you have no idea how it affects them. People that know people personally are better to give advice to them and if pot affects someone in a bad way, i'm sure someone that knows them has told them they have a problem when it comes to smoking weed. No one has ever told me that, in fact I have been told just the opposite. So what makes you think I will listen to someone who doesnt even know me. Not a chance. Wrong party, people. Oh and a response to the 2nd post up from mine-i am most certainly not trailer trash, and I do not classify people by that term either, because its kind of judgemental. Just because someone lives in a trailer, does not mean they are a bad person-maybe thats something you should think about.
Also-i have smoked pot for many many years and never once have hallucinated off it-sounds like the person you were getting it from wasnt very trustworthy.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 02-27-06 19:19pm

I think it works differently for different people. Are you on a anti-depressent?
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 02-28-06 15:15pm

If that question was to me

no but maybe I should be
write back
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quicksilver024

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Posted: 03-01-06 10:47am

Well, my first post, but i'm not just joining because of this topic.

I have some mixed experiences with cannabis. Firstly

classic psychedelics include lsd (acid), psilocybin (magic mushrooms), mescaline (peyote), lsa (morning glory seeds) and also ayahuasca (yage). Some of the synthetic "club drugs" such as mdma (ecstasy), 2c-b (nexus), dom (stp) and 5-meo-dipt (foxy methoxy) which have much more specific action to particular aspects of the psyche are also classed as psychedelics, as well as cannabis (marijuana).

Not a depressant, hallucinogen doesnt mean you "trip" from smoking it. However, has anyone ever taken a high dose... I.E. Eating pot brownies, personally I have seen pink elephants, ingesting about 3.5grams. Also I dont get tired from pot, I do however get very tired and often depressed from alcohol.

Currently I just quit marijuana this month, had been tappering off it for 3 months. I didnt quit because it was ruining my life and I quit voluntarily. I had been smoking everyday for 13 years, I only smoked late at night, always held a full time job, never have been fired, and am a responsible adult. The amount of people on this thread listing government propaganda is ridiculous, how can you trust the damn government.

The potency of cannabis actually hasnt increased since the 1960's, just the methods of cultivation. For example, lets say in the 60's you grew some pot out in your yard, okay its probably not the greatest genetics, and you might not be much of an expert. It's going to have the same relative potency of todays "super pot" but your going to yield less, and it will most likely be more leafy. Today people grow indoors because of govt helicopters, anyone ever wonder why there are black helicopters all over in august? Indoors pot is grown under ideal conditions and manicured, cured and packaged more professionally. Which is a good thing, you dont have to smoke as much to get high.

Pot is not cut with meth or chemicals, thats bs, maybe some dealers do it for some odd reason, but when your trying to run a business, are you going to lace weed with other drugs that cost money? Heck no. Even if the bud has no potency someone can still sell it.

Most pot since 9/11 is grown within the country, how do I know? From experience, havent seen foreign bud, except from canada in years.

Many of you I agree with here on this subject which is why i'm chimming in. I have a wife a great job am a college grad, who working on his masters, i've done a lot of drugs, except the bad ones.... Crack. Meth...Coke.... Heroin.. Those should by all means erradicated from society.

The class issue is bs, whomever said that, you must live around a lot of rednecks, because i've smoked with many very successfull people, lawyers, doctors, police even. You dont know these people smoke, because they dont want you to know, you think a lawyer's gonna be yappin his mouth about his personal habits, when he could be disbared.

This is prohibition, smart cannabis users are just that, they dont get caught, they dont get put in the police blotter of the newspaper.

As for the effects; they vary from person to person and from the strain (type) of cannabis. There are thousands of breeds now, all having different medical purposes.

As for pychiatric conditions; marijuana has a tendency to bring out latent pychological disorders. Like if someone in your family was schizophrenic, then you better not smoke, because it may come out. The fact that the government lies and cover the actual effects and precautions, leads to these misconceptions. If they told the truth, a lot of people would know whether cannabis is for them or not.

I smoked personally first for insomnia, which worked great, then I developed serious back problems, which I also used cannabis to relieve, instead of harmfull and far far more addictive narcotics. I also used for anxiety, which yes some cannabis can give you anxiety, but mostly sativa dominant strains, indica strains are better for anxiety. Sativas are more suited to depression, since they act more as an upper, which is where pot can actually motivate. I quit because I need to have a drug test for a job and need to save some money for a move, but I quit, I feel just a great as before and no withdrawal.

No one should smoke or consume cannabis without research into your medical history, honesty is commended by doctors and many agree cannabis has uses, but you should talk to a doctor first.

I recognise that cannabis isnt a cure all, nor is for everyone, far from it. The fact that it is illicit leads to abuse, imagine if anti-depressants were illegal and on the black market. Kids snorting zoloft and taking effexor for a quick get me up. You'd have the same problems, mental disorders, overdoses, and the list could go on forever.

I'm done with my rant for now, probably only the people that dont condone the use, with actually read all of this, but it happens to be one of my specialties. Ask away.
If your wondering, i'm neither a cannabis dealer nor cultivator, just well education and informed on the subject and the legalization movement.
Sorry for any spelling error, i'm in a bit of a rush.
~silver
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penelope67

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Posted: 03-01-06 11:26am

As a matter of fact-i do condone the use of marijuana and I read that whole post-i could read it again. It's refreshing to hear someone who knows what they are talking about around here. Thank you- I learned some things, too. I totally agree with you about why would someone lace their pot they were selling with other more expensive drugs-it's stupid, but I would imagine some people do that so their customers can get hooked on the laced drug and keep coming back for more. So maybe they are looking for more repeat customers. Just an idea.
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AEinstein

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Posted: 03-01-06 11:58am

Maruajuana is not a hallucinigentic it is a product of the hemp plant, cannabis sativa.
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penelope67

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Posted: 03-01-06 12:05pm

Ok einstein-learn how to spell, although pot doesnt make everyone hallucinate, it is still classified as a hallucinogenic. Like he said-if you have enough of it, it can make you hallucinate
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AEinstein

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Posted: 03-01-06 12:22pm

penelope67 wrote:
ok einstein-learn how to spell, although pot doesnt make everyone hallucinate, it is still classified as a hallucinogenic. Like he said-if you have enough of it, it can make you hallucinate


excuse me????? I really dont know what is with the attitude. Sorry if I type quickly & dont bother with spell check "hallucinogenic". The hostility is uncalled for and abit pathetic. I am extremely interested where you will find this listed as a hallucinogen. Please provide me with a link which states this fact. If you eat enough of sinus medication that can cause you to see things as well, and I do not believe that sudafed is classified as such. I am not claiming that I am correct with this accusation, I am only hypothesizing. Oh, incase you are confused: hypothesizing = stating an unproven theory of opinion. Thanks, hugs & kisses.
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 03-01-06 12:30pm

Lol my mate sees smurphs when he has too much!!!
And I have seen 4 townies running towards me lol!

It does make u hallucinate
watch out when buying some dealers put stuff in it
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penelope67

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Posted: 03-01-06 13:45pm

"cannabis is an ancient hallucinogenic drug derived from the hemp plant. The plant is not indigenous to any particular area and may be found growing wild almost anywhere. The term "marijuana" commonly refers to the flowering tops and leaves of the plant cannabis sativa l, or to any part of the plant that induces psychic change. Ic 35-48-1-19 defines marijuana as "all parts of the plant genus cannabis, whether growing or not; the seeds thereof; the resin extracted from any part of the plant, including hashish and hash oil. " well, there's that fact cleared up. And to back up what I said earlier:
"while there is no evidence of consistent tolerance or physical dependence on the drug, there is evidence of strong psychological dependence. The subjective effects of the drug are dependent upon various factors, including the dosage, means of administration, the personality of the user and circumstances in which it is used. The degree of harmful long-term side effects of the drug is a source of debate among the scientific community. "

sorry for the attitude, I was just kidding around-didnt mean to offend you. And by the way, I know what a hypothesis is. Thank you
here's the link for the above info:
http://www .Clarkprosecutor.Org/html/substnce/mari.Ht m
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quicksilver024

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Posted: 03-01-06 18:30pm

Thankyou for the appreciative reply penelope, I believe most americans are not ignorant on this subject by choice, but more or less subjects of a manipulative government, that is influenced highly by pharmacuetical companies, paper industries, energy conglomerates, and a drug war that gives police something to do and gives the military billions of dollars to wage secret wars.

Btw, its definetely is hallucinogenic, find me a reputable source that says otherwise, not including the dea website :wink:
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penelope67

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Posted: 03-01-06 18:46pm

Haha-exactly-you have it right on man. Thanks
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