I don't work right now. I am in the middle of finishing up my degree. (we are paying for my tuition) my fiance works very hard at a dangerous job to provide a good life for our family. He's an officer. He puts his life on the line every day for us. We do not get anything from the system and never have. I was unable to work for the most of my pregnancy due to complications. I do not consider that an excuse just to not work. My dr said it was what was best for me and my child. I never considered myself to be a lowlife because I couldn't work through my pregnancy.
After I finish my degree I have the option to use it if I would like and if not I can continue to stay home and take care of my son.
I do not get angry that there are people out there that are unable to work or would rather stay home with their children. Sometimes people need help.

What I think is ridiculous is here in quebec we get 55% of our salary (after our 2 taxes are taken out) for maternity. So where I was clearing about 850$ (after taxes and insurance and crap) every 2 weeks while working, I now get 446$ eevry 2 weeks. That's just under 900$ a month. If I was on welfare with a kid, i'd be getting a lil over 1100$. It"s crazy! I work my ass off and then get nothing in return. I made an inquiry to see if welfare was available to me and it;s not cause I am able to get my maternity benefits. So the people who;ve been really sitting on their arses are better off than I am. Luckily my bf and I are not "married" or i'd get even less.

Hmm.. Maybe me and bf shouldn't get married until we are well on our feet if our marriage is just going to cost us more in taxes and not to mention the cost of the actual marriage.

I never said so and so did and so and so is, did i, if I did I apologige.

I do not assume, I know, I work with them, free housing, free utilities, a check every month, free food, free medical, free dental and all they have to do is get pregnant. I see them in the hospital where I work coming in for there fix, I can point them out. Just like lil_blaze2004 said "it's crazy we work our ass off" we pay taxes and they get it for free, some work a little, just for a kick back. Married people should get a break, heck, we put up with each other.

If you can stay home with your child, that is great, as long as someone is bringing home the bacon. If you need a little help for a while, that is fine, but make the father pay something to, he had something to do with it, it does take two, sometimes we lose jobs and sometimes we all need a little help, this is what welfare is all about, heck, I am not totally against it, like I say, I love my jobs, I want to keep it. I hope that now you understand where I am coming from a little better, it is just that sometimes I get frustrated when there are sooo many out there that will not even show to have just a little pride among themselves.

Sure, I may have had some hard times in my life, I just take the bad with the good I totally hope that you will never have to go thru things like I have.

Sincerely,
sandy

Here, you get maternity leave, which is just unpaid time off of work. I have never heard of anyone actually having maternity benefits, but I assume in the really, really, really good jobs you might. At least you are getting that, although I still see your point! It's ridiculous.

In canada we get 1 year off with maternity benefits which is 55% of your salary or a lil more if you're low income.

Actually we get 15 weeks maternity benefits and 35 weeks of parental benefits that can be split with papa. Or papa can take all 35 weeks of parental benefits.

I took them all--lolololol

*packs bags, moves to canada* not that I am pregnant or anything or planning on having kids but this just proves canada is much better than the us from what i've heard so far...
... *reads lil blazes post about quebec's taxes and reminds herself to steer clear of that province*

Yes, but 55% of $1100.00 is not a lot. You must not have to pay out a lot of taxes even though I make more than you(please don't get me wrong, I am definitely not bragging(sp)) I pay out about almost $2000.00 a month out of my paychecks, plus I generally have to pay at the end of the year, heck with this stuff, I need to quit and go on welfare or be disabled, heck, I am more disabled then some of them(lol, just kidding).
Sincerely,
sandy

Oh yes, and what I meant by babymama2005 being on bed rest and contributing a lot is that she is going thru hell and is able to tell people about it, as in what can happen with a very hard pregnancy, yes, I should have explained myself better. I am very sorry you are on bed rest. I am very sorry you are having so much trouble with your pregnancy, I know what this is like. I do wish you all the best.
Sincerely
sandy

lol- except montreal is one of the best places to live!!! Other than the taxes,


sandy: I make about 2250$ a month, so ya close to 1125$/biweekly.

I pay out about $400/biweekly, 800$ a month in taxes. My uncle makes a lil over $100,000/yr and more than half of it goes to taxes here, cause the more you make the more they tax. I .H.A.T.E i.T!!!

Oops sorry lil_blaze, I mis-understood you.
Sincerely,
sandy

no prob-wepay taxes out of our ass here. I mean i'm only 25 so I make pretty decent money but it all goes to the damn govt and quebec has to be diff so of course we are federally and provincially taxed.

When you are done paying us tuition and health care, you have even less left than if you payed canadian taxes

quebec has a very different tax system than canada. They like being different- :roll:

i don't have time to read all of the other posts, so i'm not sure if someone else addressed this

why do you think that god is "letting" a baby implant in the womb. If you did believe in god, which you obviously don't, you would know that we as humans have something called free will. We make our own choices in life and live with the consequences. God doesn't medel with the choices we make. The woman is responsible for "letting" herself get pregnant as she was the one who decided to have sex. Then when she does get pregnant she has the choice to do right or wrong. Either live up to your own actions and accept them or blame the pregnancy on everybody else except herself and abort it because she has the "right" to do what she wants with her "own" body. But I guess it never occurs to you or others who think this way that the baby inside is it's own body. How would you feel if your mother would have aborted you? It could've easily been done and you wouldn't be here right now arguing that it's right to kill others who could've so easily been you.

pc--are you still on that whiney 3rd grade "mulitple user arguement?"..I have *one* user name and if you were old enough to understand that you would stop with your petty crap. Mom2ty is *not* me. You have been stuck on that lame little accusation since you got here. Even the people here that I don't get along with know that she and I are *two* different users. So you can take those snotty little comments of yours like "whatever she is calling him today" and stick em.

You know where you can shove it :wink:

and yes you are stuck on that accusation or did you forget that you've mentioned it about 75% of your posts? Being stuck on something and starting something are two different thigns...Did I say that you started it...Once again you have twisted something to suit you. Better luck next time.

So really it wasn't twisted. Well then oh great one please show me where I said you *started* anything? Oh right...I forgot...*you can't* so therefore you did twist it or are you really that uneducated to even understand what I am saying?

pc I guess you think you are really smart. You must think that me and her are the same. I didn't know there was a mom2trevor here or I wouln't have picked such a similar name. I just love my son and wanted to put a piece of him in my user name.

How do you know whether I was wanted or not.
"unlike you"?
You are very immature. How old are you anyways? I don't play those little high school games. Grow up.


The man is just as responsible as the woman for having sex, that doesn't make it any less the womans fault. But since you mention the man, how much choice does the man have in this situation. You and others are constantly talking about the womans right, blah blah blah, but what about the mans right? Isn't it his child too, and since he was obviously a part of making that baby, if he wants to keep the child, does he have any say so? I guess not. So you are contradicting yourself with that argument.


You're exactly right about free will. We all make our own choices. It's up to us to do right or wrong. If you want to kill another go ahead, I can't do anything to stop you. But there are a lot of woman who don't want to kill and don't really understand that abortion is killing their baby, then when it's done they feel horrible about it. People like you are constantly trying to hide the truth from the world, trying to make it look so "natural" blah blah blah. That's why you hate people like me so much because the truth hurts to you. You can't handle it that there are people in the world who arn't afraid to speak the truth. Get used to it, because we arn't going away. We will fight this fight until the end.

how would I feel if my mom had aborted me...? Well if you read the rest of the posts which you admitted you didn't.. You would see that I would've preferred that. And of course I wouldn't be here arguing with you.. What's your point? I wouldnt' have known any better to care. I wouldn't be here today if she decided to keep her legs shut, like you would've wanted her to do either. I wouldn't be here if she decided to use birth control, I wouldn't be here if she went grocery shopping instead or do the dishes.. What's your point?

And as far as abortion being irresponsible.. I happen to wholeheartedly believe it is more responsible than adoption. So you can say i'm being irresponsible and call me a killer all you want.. But I happen to think i'm doing myself, society and this "baby" a favor by aborting it and nothing you can tell me will change my mind. How is bringing another hungry mouth into a world already full of hungry mouths who have yet to be taken care of, responsible? How is having the kid and just shoving it on to somebody else to take care of responsible? I don't know about you, but i'd be righteously pissed if someone shoved their mistake on my doorstep and expect me to take care of it, and I won't.. I'll drop it off at the hospital or whoever's job it is to take em in. There are people who do that you know.. And I think it's extremly rude and selfish. Anyway.. As far as infertile couples who want kids go.. It's not my problem.. There are plenty of kids needing adoption now.. I'm not going to pop out babies left and right just because some people can't.. And it's funny how you peopel say that people who abort are selfish for that reason yet you say nothing about people who get sterlized. Arent' they giving up their gift that others would die for? Why aren't they being called selfish for sterilizing themselves instead of being broomares for the infertile?