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Q: Cant Sleep, Cant Wake!
asked by: ManchesterMadChick on March 29th, 2005
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I find myself (rather like I am now!) still awake at stupid times and just cant go to sleep. Once I get to sleep after a long time tossing and turning I just cant get up in the morning.

I am on anti depressants and have been for a while now, I am aware that these can effect my sleep and cause insomnia.
My doctor gave me some very mild sleeping tablets which do work but give me a nasty taste in my mouth for the whole of the next day, which to be honest id rather stay awake! Lol

the weird thing is some nights I fall asleep really fast and other nights I cant sleep at all. It drives me mad!! But the more stressed I get the harder it is to sleep.

Any ideas on how to help me sleep better and get up in the morning? Ive tried hot baths, cocoa, no tv in bed, relaxation exercises, inscence candles.... Etc etc etc :?:
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Tamadrummer
replied on March 29th, 2005
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If you have not tried ambien yet, I would recommend that you give that a shot.

I use the 10mg which is the higher of the 2 different doses, 5mg and 10mg.

You have to make sure that when you take the tablet, you are ready for bed and close your eyes at the 15 minute mark, or you will have trouble getting to sleep, but once asleep you still will sleep very well.

The tablets are expensive, even with insurance, I pay 40 bucks for my prescriptions but they work wonderfully and I havent noticed any bad taste from them at all. :)
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ManchesterMadChick
replied on March 30th, 2005
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In Uk
Im in the uk, is it called the same here do u know?
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Tamadrummer
replied on March 31st, 2005
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I am not sure if it is called ambien in the uk but the active ingredient is: zolpidem.

The nicest thing about them is that you are not tired in the morning after taking them! You can wake up and go about your business without being in a fog all day like with many other sleeping pills.
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ManchesterMadChick
replied on March 31st, 2005
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Thanks Tamadrummer
Thanks youve been very helpfull!

Hopefully ill be sleeping better in no time :wink:
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PantherCub
replied on June 15th, 2005
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Hi manchestermadchick,

i'm in the uk and the drug is called zolpidem. I used to be on the 5mg but wasnt doing much for me so I was told to increase the dose to 10mg which is ok but I still feel tired in the morning when I wake.
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MiraWebster
replied on June 29th, 2005
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Re: Cant Sleep
With my own sleeping problem, i've found that stress is usually what gets in the way of falling asleep and staying asleep (thinking about things that are stressing me just gets my mind wide awake). I tried some relaxation/meditation that seemed to help for awhile, and recently tried the "inner" part of gotinsomnia.Com - that has worked very well for me (did not have to buy anything) . Sometimes the typical "relaxation" methods end up just stressing me more, but this one does not attempt to relax stress away.. It's been good for just getting me to stop thinking. About an hour before I go to bed, I also start getting myself into an "everything is okay, non-thinking, non-excited, go with the flow, i'm not going to argue with anyone, not going to analyze or worry about anything" state of mind. This may sound funny, but it's been the magic key for getting to sleep and staying asleep for me. Good luck!
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thgrl
replied on July 1st, 2005
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I suffer from fatique all the time as well. Every time i've been to the doc they've told me that i'm depressed.....But, since then, i've been put on anti depressants and i'm still tired!

I fall asleep fine....Except for tonight - haha...But I wake up over and over and over...I fall back to sleep quickly as well, but cannot stay asleep.

In the morning I am absolutely knocked out.....

If I take sleeping pills i'm always in a fog the next day...I've tried melatonin and it seems to help very little...My boyfriend suggests taking 3 at a time, but the directions say not to go over 1 in 24 hours...

If anyone has any suggestions, please, please tell me
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metallee
replied on July 4th, 2005
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Im not sure what this problem is called, but I know I have it too. I can't sleep ether. I take anti depressants, have been taking them for a few months, and I just can't sleep. Before I had taken them I couldn't sleep ether, but I would wake up at all hours, and then I wouldnt be able to get up in the morning. But now I still feel the same way on the meds, but its worser, I can't fall asleep, and im stressed out, like ill lay there in my bed, and think and everything will run through my head like a tv screen, all my problems come running through my mind so fast, and I get stressed out. So now when I go to bed, I try not to think, I try to turn off my brain..Lol I try to sit quitely, and not thinking its so hard, but the more you think the more your going to get stressed out, and the more you can't sleep, and the more hours your awake cause of it.. And I have noticed that the more you think about sleeping, or thinking about how your going to get to sleep making falling asleep even harder. The anitdepressants do cause sleeping problems, some people take there meds at bedtime to help them fallsleep, cause it makes them drowsey, real sleepy, it does me, I get so tired at work that im about to fall over dead. Try taking your pills at bedtime, give it a few mins to kick in, and it should help, but its hard...
I might have to talk to my doctor about getting me on a sleeping med to help me sleep, cause I can't sleep at night, I wake up all hours still at night, then trouble falling asleep when I have awaken, and when I wake in morning im not rested, I feel so drained, and tired, and mad, and upset, and I get so tired, its so hard to work this way....... I drink coffee now to try to stay awake at work, im only 18, and I feel so older cause of how tired I am, and how dead I feel. I even take my sisters sleeping pills sometimes.... I know not good.... But what can you do, your so tired, but can't fall asleep..
Well hope this helps.................
Chat with me anytime.
-metallee
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scratchitoff
replied on August 18th, 2008
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It sounds like hormones to me. I had exactly the same problem and had a full hormone profile done and found I was lacking in melatonin ( the sleep hormone ) and Progesterone which also aids in sleep and thyroid which helps you wake up in the morning. It is possibe and fairly common to have hormone imbalances way before menopause so go have it checked out and treat the cause rather than blocking it all out with sleeping pills!!
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jennedie
replied on February 4th, 2009
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Cant sleep cant get up? This sounds crazy but it works!
I have this problem for years now. I found myself just lying in bed thinking about every possible thing in my past. Ex-boyfriends, enemies, choices that i made, all running through my mind and i couldn't stop it. I told my mother about it and she gave something to try out before I fell asleep. She said when you get into bed, first get into your most comfortable position.
Then without moving an inch say good night to youself bit by bit. Start with your toes- visualise the part of the body and say good night to it, then your ankles-" good night ankles" Work yourself up the body saying good night to as many parts as possible, toes, ankles, left foot, right foot, shins... liver heart, but keeping a visual of each part. It worked for me for years! But now it does not and i'm back to square one and my pasted is running through my mind once again night after night. I was thinking how nice it would be to get hypnosis and have all those thoughts removed. maybe then I could sleep properly.
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melancholydaye
replied on February 4th, 2009
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Ive had the same problem. I myself, do not want to become dependant on sleeping pills, so I refuse them. I will find myself falling into these weird sleep patterns it seems every other month. For several weeks, I will be fine, going to bed at a reasonable hour, waking up refreshed and early. But then, I will get into these funks that will begin with a night of not being able to get to sleep for the life of me.

I will lay there with my eyes closed for usually around one hour, and just end up giving up and opening the tv, and I would usually end up seeing the sun rise on most nights. Then, for the next couple of weeks, I find myself a zombie at work and thinking of nothing more that going home and SLEEPING, but wondering why the hell I can't sleep at night. There would even be several nights when I was running on 2 hours of sleep from the night before and I STILL can't sleep.

Then I took some steps to work out my sleep problems. Check out your local herbal supplier, and see if they have some herbal supplements you can take to help you wind down at night. Make bed time the most relaxing time of the day. Drink some milk, have a cookie, brew some hot tea(not green tea!!!) and use this to wind down. Set up your bathroom to be your relaxation station. Take a hot bath, and read a magazine. Remove anything from your bedroom that may make your mind stray from sleep, for example, your computer, or your tv. Find a good book (I recommend Ken Follets Pillars of the Earth) and read a little. Then, close your eyes, and replay what youve just read in your mind. I find that I cannot replay most of what I read in my mind before falling asleep.
This helped for me, just do anything you can to make bedtime the most relaxing time of the day.
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