Right Index Finger Pain (please Help!) Posted: 03-28-05 19:09pm
I apologize for the below posting. It is
very long and wordy. However, it is a
detailed representation of what i've been
going through over the last 5 months. If
there is anyone out there they can offer
me some suggestions other than what i've
already tried, I would very much
appreciate it!
10/20/04: approximately 2 weeks before
surgery, right index finger knuckle had
slight tingle and itch. Over the next 2
weeks, it began to hurt. I discussed
this w/dr. Zeiger. He said after the
surgery, pain should go away.
11/4/04: Dr. Evan zeiger (neurosurgeon)
performed cervical fusion on c-5/6. I
had prior fusion (1998) on c-4/5. I woke
from surgery and finger pain was still
present. He said to give it several
weeks and it will eventually go away.
11/22/04: finger worsened. I talked to
Dr. Ghori (neurologist). He said it was
a good sign (pain) that the nerve was not
permanently damaged. He brought by
samples of trilepital (150 mg) for me to
take. He said it was for epilepsy, but
it also helps with nerve damage pain.
11/23/04: went to see Dr. Charles feagin
(orthopedic hand specialist and plastic
surgeon). I was having some tennis elbow
pain. He gave me a cortisone injection,
which he has done several times in the
past. I talked to him briefly about my
finger. He said if it got worse, to give
him a call.
12/8/04: had first follow up meeting with
Dr. Walter haynes iii (neurosurgeon and
one of Dr. Zeiger’s partners in
b’ham). This was pertaining to my
cervical fusion 11/4/04. He took some
x-rays of my neck and said everything
looked good. I mentioned my finger pain.
He said it should go away in a couple of
months. Recommended I use neurotin (600
mg/day). He also ordered me a medrol
dose pak. Said there probably is some
swelling that could be causing the finger
pain. The medrol pak is an oral steroid
which should take care of this. Also
wrote me a prescription for physical
therapy to get my legs back to full
strength. I also complained that went I
stretched, I would cramp up. He said one
I get back into my exercise routine, the
cramping should go away.
12/30/04: pain has continued to
intensify. It has migrated from my
knuckle towards the tip of my right index
finger and radiated into the top of my
hand. Dr. Zeiger’s office recommended
an epidural, which I had done today by Dr.
Steve jones (anesthesiologist ). Dr.
Jones slowly drove the needle in. He
told me once he injected the epidural
space, the pain should go away within
seconds. Unfortunately, it didn’t.
He said to give it a few days. But I
could see the look on his face that he was
surprised I didn’t have the slightest
bit of relief.
1/5/05: I had my 2nd follow up meeting
w/dr. Zeiger in b’ham. He looked at
my hand and said the surgery he performed
had nothing to do with my hand. I
mentioned the other minor herniation in
c-3/4. He said it was so minor, it
wouldn’t be causing my problem. He had
me get an x-ray of my hand and then
recommended I see a rheumatologist. He
said an injection into the mcp joint
should provide relief.
1/11/05: Dr. Feagin gave me a cortisone
injection for the radial nerve in the mcp
area (knuckle). I waited several days
without the slightest bit of relief.
1/26/05: I went back to Dr. Feagin. He
gave me another cortisone injection in the
lower part of the top of my hand. He
asked me prior where the pain began. I
told him and he said that’s where the
radial nerve route was. So his goal was
to inject where the pain began. No
results. That evening, I did some
research on the internet. It seemed my
pain could be caused by bursitis or rsd.
After reading about reflex sympathetic
dystrophy (rsd), I prayed it was not
that.
2/11/05: my physical therapist, chuck
outlaw (p.T.), then referred me over to
southeast pain management. I had met
with Dr. Mark willis (anesthesiologist)
earlier. He had said a ganglia nerve
block should do the trick. Today, he did
the procedure. He told me within 5
seconds, the pain would be gone. Not!
He then told me I wouldn’t leave his
office in pain. He gave me 4 shots of
novocain directly into my right index
finger area. I still felt pain. He
told me he could cut my finger off right
now and I wouldn’t even know it. He
tested it by having my close my eyes and
look away. He asked what he was doing to
my finger. I told him he was digging his
finger nail under my finger nail. I
opened my eyes and saw the disbelief Dr.
Willis had. He said there was no way I
should have been able to feel that. I
left his office in pain. He recommended
trying a radial frequency (rf) on c-6/7.
He said those were the main nerve branches
that radiate out of the spinal cord into
my right hand area. He also wrote me a
prescription for more neurotin. He said
he wanted to build me up to 1800 mg of
neurotin per day. I began taking more
neurotin this evening.
2/21/05: went for cervical mri at
flower’s hospital in dothan. It showed
some minor to moderate herniation in
c-3/4. Most everyone I talked to said it
wasn’t significant to cause my finger
pain.
2/23/05: several days ago, I had spoken
with Dr. Ghori. He mentioned he had a
friend that did acupuncture. So today, I
had my first of 6 acupuncture treatments
administered by Dr. Bayer cheng
(anesthesiologist) here in dothan. Each
session lasted 30 minutes. Needles were
placed at various locations on my body.
He strategically placed electric
shots/pulses on certain needles. No
results.
2/24/05: 2nd acupuncture treatment.
2/25/05: 3rd acupuncture treatment.
2/27/05: 4th acupuncture treatment.
3/1/05: 5th acupuncture treatment.
3/3/05: 6th and last acupuncture
treatment with no results.
3/7/05: went to Dr. Willis office to
have the radial frequency (rf) performed
on c-6/7. He said it was the opposite of
the ganglia nerve block. He didn’t
guarantee that it would work though. It
was very painful. He went in through the
neck area. No results. He said to give
it several days though.
3/15/05: 1st consultation with Dr.
Hassan kesserwani (neurologist in ozark,
al). Dr. Kesserwani graduated from the
mayo clinic in minnesota. He came highly
recommended. Dr. Cheng referred me to
him. Dr. Kesserwani said it was a clear
case of digital neuritis. It was a form
of rsd but could be treated. He
suggested doing an emg next week to test
of the extensiveness of the nerve damage.
In the meantime, he game me several
lidoderm patches to attach to the highly
sensitive areas until my next appointment.
He said the problem is local and has
nothing to do with my back.
3/21/05: went back for 2nd visit with Dr.
Kesserwani. He started out by placing
some small sticky patches on different
parts of my right arm and right neck and
shoulder area. He then administered
small pulses of electricity. He came to
the conclusion that my right index finger
nerve was not damaged. He also did some
strength test and said everything appeared
normal. I told him that was fine, but my
finger is still hurting. We went back to
his office. He told me I needed to take
digital pictures of the finger. He said
there was clear discoloration in the areas
of highest pain. I told him at this
point that it’s my own body, and when I
lay down at night or turn my neck a
certain way, the pain continues to shoot
out. So I asked that he still conduct
the emg on me. He initial said it
wasn’t necessary after the electric
shock test. So he conducted the emg by
sticking a needle in my arm in different
locations and listened to the pitch. He
said there was some bad noises in the
c-56/ area. I reminded him that’s
where my disk was removed back on 11/4/04.
He said other than that, the emg was
negative. So it was not my back that is
causing all the problems. I even brought
the copy of my mri taken back on 2/21/05.
He didn’t see anything concerning to
him. He then drew a picture for me of my
nerve. He said the only thing he can
think of at this time is that I have
vasculitis. That is, not enough blood
supply is getting to the nerve. It was
probably due to some swelling and
inflammation from my back/neck area. He
recommended I get a solumedrol steroid (1
gram) per day for 3 days. It would be
administered through an iv placed on a one
hour drip cycle. He also wrote me a
prescription for zostrix crème (cayenne
pepper) to apply 3 to 4 times per day to
the injected area. He said it would
burn, but its purpose is to kill the small
pain fibers just under the skin. I will
see him again in 4 weeks for a follow
up.
3/22/05: I went back to see Dr. Willis
about my neck discomfort and tightness.
He earlier had recommended multiple local
anesthetic injections into the “trigger
points”. It should break down the
muscle spasms that were so tightly balled
up. I told him I was going in the next 3
mornings for my solumedrol treatments. I
was concerned about my blood sugar, since
I was diagnosed with diabetes 6 years ago.
He asked if it was under control. I
told him 6 months after I was diagnosed, I
was given a clean bill of health from my
family doctor, Dr. Edwin morriss iii
(internal medicine). I do not take any
insulin or medicine. It has been weight
controlled for the past 5 ½ years.
Hemoglobin a1c test have all been perfect
since then. Based on this information,
he said he could give me the injections
now without any problems. He gave me 10
shots in various trigger point areas.
3/23/05: 1st solumedrol iv injection done
at flower’s hospital. It took about an
hour. It wasn’t very bad. I
immediately experienced a metallic taste
in my mouth. It lasted till around 6pm
that evening. I also felt nervous,
jittery and anxious. I noticed my hands
very slightly shaking. Jeffery (rn) told
me these were very common side effects of
the solumedrol. He also told me to watch
my blood sugar and blood pressure. Also
said I might feel very hungry, which I
did. I checked my blood pressure before
bed. It was 150 over 95. I was very
concerned.
3/24/05: before I went in, I checked my
blood sugar. It was 195. Again, I was
very concerned. I did my 2nd solumedrol
treatment. I told jeffrey about the
nasty taste. He told me to suck on some
lemon drops or peppermints. All the side
effects came back. I felt anxiety all
day. But at 6pm, most of the feelings
went away. I also had trouble going to
sleep the night before.
3/24/05: I called Dr. Zeiger’s office
this afternoon. I spoke with gayla. I
told her the continued problems with my
finger. I wanted to see if Dr. Zeiger
could review my case and hopefully help me
or refer me to someone at uab. I told
her i’d gone to just about every local
specialist, and have been unsuccessful.
I mentioned it’s time for me to go out
of town. She said for me to fax her all
my notes (history). Dr. Zeiger would be
back in the office on monday and he’ll
review it. Then if he wants to see me,
we’ll set another appointment. Be sure
to bring a copy of my recent mri done in
the cervical area. I also received a
call back from chuck outlaw. He has a
specialist at uab that might be able to
help me.
3/25/05: I did not sleep well again. I
went in for my 3rd and last solumedrol
treatment. I checked my blood sugar
before the treatment. I was up to 205.
Again, they mentioned that once the
steroid filters through my body, my blood
sugar should go down to normal levels.
They checked my blood pressure. It was
125 over 64. I felt much better about
this.
3/25/05: current condition and
conclusion: initially, I had a small itch
in the right index finger knuckle. Over
several weeks, the itch developed into
severe pain. The pain grew to the tip of
my finger and radiated towards my wrist on
the top of the hand. I am scared this
pain will continue to extend up my arm.
Over the past 2 months, it has not
progressed. Pain is ignited when the
area is gently stroked or grazed. Also
laying down or turning my neck aggravates
it. Extremely hyper-sensitive! Hard
pressure or massaging feels good. On a
scale of 1-10, the pain is always a 3
(dull pain). But when aggravated (which
is often), it spikes to an 8. It is a
very sharp, stabbing shooting pain that
generates from the top of my hand to the
end of the finger. Fyi, the left side
and top of the index finger and a small
area from the right index knuckle down
towards the wrist is the most sensitive.
The right side of the index finger gives
me no problem. The rest of my hand and
fingers are in perfect condition. Total
duration of problem is approximately 5
months. At this point, all treatments
have failed. There is one interesting
footnote. I took a cruise to cozumel, mx
3/10/05 – 3/14/05. I drank plenty of
beer. I did not complain about my finger
one time. Somehow, it must have had a
numbing effect on the nerve pain sensors.
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severe finger pain
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Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 1
Posted: 03-23-08 23:07pm
Have you ever figured out the main
problem? I'v been suffering from stabbing
very severe pain for over 3 years. I still
haven't found out why and what causes it.
It is my right finger, ring finger.
Sometimes I can barley even open my whole
hand. Also when I'm sleeping and laying a
certian way the pain does get more severe
or just goes away as fast as it came on.
Please let me know what you've been
dianosed with so I can have my doctor run
a test.
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christine.takingcare
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Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 1
Wow you could be describing my finger exactly Posted: 04-23-08 17:08pm
I am suffering from the same thing, almost
exactly. They think it is from over use.
I am getting my masters (done in August).
I had the steroid shots, the reason there
is discoloration at the point of most pain
is that is the injection site and the
steroid "blanches" the skin. Also, the
reason you may have had relief for about
an hour is that they first give you
novocain, and that could have relieved
some of the pain. It did for me. I have
not had all the tests that you have
because the drs. never called me to set up
the appointments (i know i can dial a
phone) but i am too busy to do all this
stuff to find out that it cant be fixed.
They gave me steroids which bothered my
b/s also (diabetic, too). My left hand is
starting to have similar problem in first
finger. It is amazing what you said about
the pressure making it feel better and how
the pain is like an 8 if you bump it or
move it the wrong way. I think I will die
if I have to be in this pain all the
time...I am doing some typing but it isn't
so much that I should be in this kind of
pain...yet I am. Also, I have been in
this pain for 2 years. I also have some
pain in my shoulder and they think my hand
pain is carpal tunnel related and gave me
Mobic and Vicodin. The Mobic doesn't work
and the Vicodin dulls the pain or it just
makes me feel like I don't care because it
makes me drowsy. I am at a loss...i would
love to try a nerve block...i am calling
the dr. as I type this. I am in so much
pain that I cant sleep at night...I am
tired and in pain and have to start
writing my thesis...I don't know what I am
going to do.
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NativeSister
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Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 1
Another grad student with similiar prob Posted: 05-27-08 18:44pm
That is strange when I read the post for
christine.takingcare....it is just in
reverse for me. I am also in grad school
and Fall 2007 I started having shoulder
pain. I had one doctor tell me that he
was almost positive I had a torn rotator
cuff and I needed physical therapy or if
bad enough it would require surgery. It
was an Indian hospital and did not have
the ability to refer me. I then went into
the Indian Health clinic where I'm going
to school and told the doctor there what I
had been told. He did a x-ray, found
nothing and then suggested a cortisone
shot. I went ahead to try it because at
this point I had been suffering in pain
for months. The cortisone (which was NOT
fun....long story) helped after a couple
of days of pain from the shot. I didn't
have pain for about a month. I am
thinking that I over did it by using an
exercise machine that I pulled a bar down
from overhead that had weight on it....I
believe that is what made if flair up
again. I have been experiencing increased
pain for the last month again and because
I had to move it really aggravated it.
Now to the finger thing. A few weeks ago
I had this sharp stabbing pain in my right
index finger in the joint closest to my
fingernail. In fact, just as I was typing
this I remembered that this did this one
other time and I can't remember whether it
was before the shoulder pain or during it.
I thought I had jammed my finger really
bad or broke it. I used a splint to
immoblize it and was sorry. It swelled up
really bad and was extremely painful. I
found that when I took it off and gently
moved it it eased up. That was only once
and then went away....no problems until
this past few weeks when it happened. It
hurt for several days and then as sudden
as it came....it left. Then yesterday it
started again. Each time it starts with a
sharp shooting pain and then stiffness,
dull pain and some swelling. Just a few
minutes ago I was doing some chores in the
kitchen where I was scrubbing something
and it had a very severe
pain...intense...that shot thru it and now
I can barely move it.
One last thing. I have been in school
full-time since fall 2005, no problems
until fall 2006 when I took a class that
we wrote for the entire hour 3 times a
week. I got tendinitis in my right hand.
I also got that back several years ago
when I first started going to school. The
doctor had me quit using my right hand for
about 6 weeks and it was better. I tried
to do that also in Fall 2006 but it was
difficult. I wrote with my left hand as
much as possible but it was slow and hard
to do. I also looked for opitional
methods (ie., recording when I can,
getting a small laptop where I can type
notes, etc.). My tendinitis when away and
I haven't had problems with it again but
the shoulder pain started in Fall 2007...a
year after the tendinitis. Now the finger
pain.
I just wish I knew what was going on. It
is very difficult having this pain to deal
with almost constently. I have a very
difficult time sleeping with my shoulder
pain. It hurts to lie on that side but
lying on the opposite side causes pain
also from the way my shoulder falls
forward. As a full-time student, no
insurance and Indian health services
barely minimal....I don't know what I'm
going to do either. If anyone else
figures out what this their problem may
be....I would love for you to share ideas
with me.