What????? :?

so now you wish to control what religions are allowed to discuss,are you that scared that religion will stop terminations.You call yourself pro choice yet want to control what other people can hear,not much of a choice there is there.Or is it only pro choice when it concerns termination,religion is not the problem,the problem is all the lies and decietful propaganda that emanates from both sides.

yes, man is by nature a sinner. We are born with sin within us, hense why even very young children lie, cheat, etc. Embracing human failure? What have we failed at? I assume your reffering to this failure as sin. We all fall short of the glory of god, but through jesus christ we all live. It really is that simple. Jesus died for my "failure" and for everyone else's "failure". It's not about being perfect, it's about reaching towards that love that god shows us. As a christian, I don't "embrace" my sin, I ask god for forgivness, and try my hardest to repent. That's what it's all about. Christianity in it's simpilest for is about love. God loves, therefore we love. Jesus said thats the greatest commandment....."love one another as I have loved you". Christianity is pure and simple. It has been around through generations and generations and will continue.....

Tell that to fred phelps blue.. You know who he is? It seems to me that you can beat the caca out of kids, molest children, and harass people and abuse them.. So long as you call yourself a christian.. But if your secular then you're an problem.

sorry bd never heard of him,religion is no excuse for any crime,my point was he wants to gag religion which is not very pro choice is it.

I know many christians that are pro-choice. You don't have to be perfect to be a christian. Hello!! I'm 18 not married, and having a baby boy in august. God forgives. Now that dosn't justify sin, but he forgives.

Izzy, you are prolife...Why are you posting this crap?

Religion has no place in termination . Religion is just another way for people to be controling and judgmental spouting all the crap about pergotary and hell and how you don't go to the big place in the sky if you sin.
Well how the hell do we know that it even exsists you have to die to find out right well I haven't seen noone come back and let us know yet have you?

sorry bd but fred phelps is not a christian he is a baptist they have different ideals to christians,for the record I do not agree with organised religion,though I do believe in the one god through my own ideals,morals and feelings

what utter nonsense and patertic attempt at distancing yourself from other christians who are bigots. Baptists are indeed a christian denomination.

Oh, and we see this escape from responsibilities other times as well. Even the baptists are trying to distance themselves from phelps.

can you not read steen I am neither a christian nor a baptist so I do not need to distance myself from anyone.I am a believer in god not religion,god made man,man made religion,who do you trust.?

Yeah, all denominations are indeed christian, including baptist. They all do however, have their own little beliefs and interpretations of the bible that make it hard for some people (such as myself) to pick one.
I would like to go to church, but I have never been to a church where I fully believed what they were trying to tell me. I do believe that most denominations have their ulterior motives and it isn't right at all. So, I also believe in god and call my self christian, but I don't belong to any particular organization within it all.
But, I also agree that religion has nothing to do with abortion. It is used to judge and "condemn" people to hell, but if these people were real christians they wouldn't do that! Not only is it unchristian to judge, but did christ not die so that our sins could be forgiven? All of them? No sin is greater than another, so I get tired of all of the jibberish when it is used to "fight" abortion. Especially when the person who is getting or considering or already had an abortion isn't even a christian. What good is it going to do then for people to tell her she is going to hell?

Lol. I didn't realize this was the post that izzy made. Funny it was deleted after I called him out.

god made weed.. Man made beer.. Who do you trust? :p

sorry, I was under the impression that you were a christian.

And somehow, I missed your acknowledgement that baptists are a christian denomination?

If and I mean it as a big if there is a god isn't there only supposed to be one?

If theres one god why all the religious arguments?

As a none believer I don't see what good arguing about the one god acheives.

To be honest.....



Baptist, anglican, lutherian, evangelical, mormons, quakers, calvanists.. On and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. A.N.D. O.N.....Protestant. Denominations....*shake of the head*

they are not christian, they can call themselves christian all they like they are pagan and I dont give a damn if there are people on this board who belong to one of these... Please wake up, just because these churches call themselves christian dosnt make them so... I am sorry but its the truth.... There is only one true christian chruch it is fully united, not divided, and no arguments within it, it is both historically and biblically supported as well as morally and doctrinly divinely protected.


The only thing I wished was for this church to distance herself from such low life churches as these, they permit human attrocities and give their suport for perversions, they kill their so called brothers in the name of divine providence, and allow homosexual abominations to be carried out at the foot of there altars in same sex marriage, they follow state leaders, false prophets and damn their flock to the pits of hell all in the name of tolerance... These are not tolerances but sacraliges.... There can be no unity for us they have strayed too far, as the bible says they have cut themselves off from the branch and they will wither and die... But the church in her infinit and often blinded and I think often stupid compasion continues to try.


So dont label me or my church among these scoundrel impersonaters, I would rather you chastized and labled me worse than these, I would rather you put me to death... They all argue about who is right and wrong concerning the bible and they have many us daft idiots playing along with them... While we who are members of the church of the truth the way and the life debate and argue and play tip toe around these people, satan is running a mock, we need to wake up and distance ourselves and denounce them and refuse to acknowledge them as christian churches.

Please get off of your religious kick. Take it to the religious forum. As said before, many times, it does not belong here. This last post shows your hate and judgementalness(sp)

thanks,
sandy