Memories of Dachau

Steen can you never just be civil no one was attacking you until you attacked?

Steen where was izzy lying are you saying that history is wrong?Before the second world war the worlds economy had collapsed and jewish people were in charge of the banks at the time{though I in no way blame them for it so dont even attempt to call me racist or anti sematic}all I am stating are historical facts,the germans where starving has was most of europe,whatever hitlers reasons for the extermination,it was the act of a madman,all izzy has done is put his own interprtation on hitlers reasons,that in no way makes him anti sematic he is not hitler nor did he take part in the extermination of jews.

Neither do I condone such a vile act of homicide, unlike some

Steen commented on izzy's remark that stated why the german's loved him. And steen corrected that comment. I believe that is what the "lie" was, but I don't know.
Actually, I have never met a racist prochoice person. It is usually quite the contrary. Prochoice people are generally more understanding and open-minded and less likely to be small-minded enough to be a racist. In fact, even on this site the only racist remarks are made by a prolife person. Although, that really doesn't count as there aren't many people on this forum to begin with.
Regardless of why hitler was intimidated by the jews and chose to try to get rid of them, abortion is not like the holocaust.
Jlee I truly hope you are never raped by a monster or have a pregnancy that will kill both you and the baby and be forced to make a decision that you never wanted to have to make. But, even if you chose for you and the baby to die or to have the baby of your attacker, how can you honestly expect every other woman to do that? Have they not already been through enough? Selfish or not, it is her body, her life and her decision. I find others trying to control what she does although it has no affect on them whatsoever more selfish than her making a decision that affects her and her life. Just because someone chooses to have an abortion doesn't mean they are a hateful, awful or selfish person. They were just put into a situation that most people have never been in. And the people who were in it and chose to have the baby anyway, well they were either stronger or just held different beliefs. But, either way I can't believe that you would honestly judge them. All people are different, need different things and are capable or incapable of different things, and they make their decisions based on that. Not all decisions can be made based on what you believe or what you think is "right."
i like how you ignore everything that any prochoice person here states and say that all we ever say is that it is about, "the womans right to choose what affects her body..." if you would read, you would see that isn't all that "we" say and it is quite foolish to say that.

Yes, you have every right to debate. But to say in general, as you did, that it isn't about the woman's right to chose is excluding rape, etc. So if you feel differently in those circimstances then instead of just stating that abortion is wrong and that a woman doesn't have the right to chose, maybe you should be more specific. You were implying that all prochoice people feel the exact same way and that all we ever say is that it is the woman's right to choose and you know as well as everyone else that isn't true.