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Q: One More Reason Why Pregnany Is More Risky Than Abortion
asked by: bd1012 on February 24th, 2005
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Pregnant women risk homicide in u.S., report finds

wed feb 23, 4:44 pm et u.S. National - reuters

washington (reuters) - homicide is a surprisingly common cause of death among pregnant women in the united states, u.S. Government researchers reported on wednesday.

Black women are especially vulnerable to being killed while pregnant, the team at the centers for disease control and prevention (news - web sites) found.

"homicide is a leading cause of pregnancy-associated injury deaths," jeani chang and colleagues wrote in the latest issue of the american journal of public health.

They investigated the deaths of women who died while pregnant or within a year of being pregnant between 1991 and 1999 and found 1,993 that were caused by injury, compared with 4,200 that were directly related to pregnancy complications.

Of the injury-related deaths, 617 or 31 percent were ruled homicide, making homicide the second most common cause of injury-related death for pregnant women after car accidents.

The homicide rate for pregnant black women was more than triple that for white women, the researchers said.

Most of the murdered women, 56 percent, were shot to death while the rest were either stabbed or strangled.

On tuesday, a texas man was charged with murdering his pregnant lover and her 7-year-old son after he led police to a makeshift grave.

Stephen barbee, 37, told police he murdered lisa underwood, 34, and her son jayden because she was pregnant with his child and wanted him to leave his wife for her, according to court documents quoted by the dallas morning news.

A second report suggests that pregnancy-related deaths may be underreported.

Isabelle horon of the maryland department of health and mental hygiene collected data on maternal deaths from death certificates and other records.

She found 38 percent of the deaths in pregnant women or women who had recently given birth were not reported as being pregnancy-related.

"the number of maternal deaths is substantially underestimated when death certificates alone are used to identify deaths," she wrote in her report in the same journal.

"for example, if a doctor writes on a death certificate that 'hemorrhage' was the cause of death, and doesn't mention that the hemorrhage occurred postpartum, this death would not be counted as a maternal death," she said in an e-mail.
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Kia
replied on February 24th, 2005
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Hey brandy, just one thing though, surely the homicide is not a risk of pregnancy but of those who you are surrounded by?
Many non pregnant people get mur derred all the time.
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Kia
replied on February 24th, 2005
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In my view it is all swings and roundabouts though.
I mean you run risks everyday - like getting run over maybe, sure there are risks involved in pregnancy, but those "external" risk can be minimised by not going into dodgy neighbourhoods (especially not alone and after dark etc)
we all chose to take external risk everyday. Until my horse died I chose to ride horseback - apparently the 3rd most dangerous sport ever! :shock:
yes, pregnancy has "internal" risks such as being ectopic, molar, pre-eclampsia, eclampsia, or as in my case uterine rupture - 4 months ago pregnancy almost killed me but if there was a chance of carrying a child i'd do it all over again tomorrow!
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steen
replied on February 25th, 2005
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Women's risk of m-word goes up when they are pregnant.
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FISHX
replied on February 25th, 2005
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steen wrote:
women's risk of m-word goes up when they are pregnant.


would you care to provide proof of that statement?
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FISHX
replied on February 26th, 2005
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What no proof yet well there is a surprise?
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2ferano
replied on February 26th, 2005
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Ah, you know some people do have lives and don't spend all day and night on this forum. Ever think maybe she is sleeping?

And as far as me not being a good moderator because "i allowed this stuff to stay in the forum" first of all, I asked for my moderator rights to be taken away. Secondly, I also have a life and am not on this forum all day long, so very sorry.
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FISHX
replied on February 26th, 2005
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Yet if pro life were to use that excuse we are simply liar's with no proof yeah right to busy causing crap elsewhere.
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2ferano
replied on February 26th, 2005
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What in the world does that have to do with being prolife? If anyone comes on here and posts info and on the same day (at 6am mind you) hasn't responded yet it is a given that they are obviously busy.

You need to stop being so darn accusatory and defensive over such petty things.
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FISHX
replied on February 27th, 2005
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Has anyone got my evidence yet......................No thought not :roll:
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2ferano
replied on March 1st, 2005
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Well, it isn't just prolife people who get accused of that. That is a little silly. You are right, when someone posts and doesn't come on five minutes later and respond, they are accused of not having anything to back up their statements, even though in reality, they are just not online. But, that goes for prolife and prochoice, not just one or the other.
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lil_blaze2004
replied on March 1st, 2005
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hotasfrick wrote:
well, it isn't just prolife people who get accused of that. That is a little silly. You are right, when someone posts and doesn't come on five minutes later and respond, they are accused of not having anything to back up their statements, even though in reality, they are just not online. But, that goes for prolife and prochoice, not just one or the other.


uh ya fish left 5 hours between posts not 5 min.
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2ferano
replied on March 1st, 2005
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For goodness sakes you know what I mean. Some people only log on every couple of days or so, some even longer. That is what I meant.
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lil_blaze2004
replied on March 1st, 2005
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hotasfrick wrote:
for goodness sakes you know what I mean. Some people only log on every couple of days or so, some even longer. That is what I meant.


lol- I like being a pain in the arse--lol ya but there's others who we know come on everyday and that's who she was looking for.
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2ferano
replied on March 1st, 2005
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It's all good. When I made the original comment it was in the same day. But, yeah, now I can understand why the post would be made, it was just at that time it was a little ridiculous. Ah, what do I know.
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FISHX
replied on March 1st, 2005
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Thanks lil much appreciated :wink:
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steen
replied on March 1st, 2005
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I'll look for stuff within the next couple of days. Just hold on to your.... Whatever you hold on to :lol:
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lil_blaze2004
replied on March 1st, 2005
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Ya but what about all the people who are not pregnant who are health question? There's thousands of those yearly.
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FISHX
replied on March 2nd, 2005
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steen wrote:
i'll look for stuff within the next couple of days. Just hold on to your.... Whatever you hold on to :lol:



lol i'm holding i'm holding :wink:
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