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Q: Judge Rules a Destroyed Ivf Embryo Was a Human Being
asked by: mom2trevor on February 8th, 2005
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a couples embryo was *accidentally* throw out and they sued.





Edited:--i can't get the websight to work but go to any major search engine and search the words *chicago court embryo human being* (that is what I searched and it pulled up many corresponding pages) sorry for inconvenience if link doesn't work)
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bd1012
replied on February 9th, 2005
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So what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a homicide case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.
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FISHX
replied on February 9th, 2005
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bd1012 wrote:
so what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a not a nice act case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.





so if not judges and the law then who decides?
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foreverblue
replied on February 9th, 2005
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bd1012 wrote:
so what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a not a nice act case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.



but judges do decide dont they bd,or is this a case of well he cannot decide because it is not the decision you want
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bd1012
replied on February 9th, 2005
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Whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.
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FISHX
replied on February 9th, 2005
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bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.



human or non??????????????????

A woman cannot conceive a non human.
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foreverblue
replied on February 9th, 2005
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bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.


again back to the womans choice the womans right,go argue that in a different forum,but that is pro choices way isnt it if you cannot win fall back on *its our right bs*
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foreverblue
replied on February 9th, 2005
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bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.



did not a judge give you that right,yes in court cases brought by pro choicers,so why does this judge not have that same power to take away a right or call a fetus something else.
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mom2trevor
replied on February 9th, 2005
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Bd-- judges and the law gave women the legal right to abort....This is the same law that could take that right away...So you don't care what they think? So if you are really pro-choice you would care what the law or a judge thought.
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Kourtney08
replied on February 9th, 2005
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"a womans choice" isn't an argument to "fall back on." im pretty sure if someone were trying to force you to do something you didn't want you'd use the line "its my body, and I don't have to." I know I would, no one in this world, will ever, ever tell me what to do with (caps) my body. Well, they could, but they're sure in for one rude awakening.
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foreverblue
replied on February 9th, 2005
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kourtney08 wrote:
"a womans choice" isn't an argument to "fall back on." im pretty sure if someone were trying to force you to do something you didn't want you'd use the line "its my body, and I don't have to." I know I would, no one in this world, will ever, ever tell me what to do with (caps) my body. Well, they could, but they're sure in for one rude awakening.



so why do you use it when you are losing the debate
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steen
replied on February 9th, 2005
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Another activist judge ruling politically, contrary to the law. What a surprise. Almost as much of a surprise as when the appeals courts strike it down.
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