<<<it stopped being civil when
sterilization was brought up. This was
made personal without that being
intentional.>>>
who said something about sterilization?
Sorry, I sometimes don't read peoples
posts because they're to long and
pointless. Lol. So I didn't see who said
that.
But if someone finds out they're pregnant,
and wants to keep it, and they're addicted
to crack, then they need to check
themselves into a rehab. If they don't
want to keep their baby, thats their
choice also. But someone shouldn't
knowingly smoke crack, or do any of those
drugs while pregnant.
But samisuni- I know what you're talking
about.. I know where you're coming
from..Believe me.
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PattyV
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 01-30-05 15:46pm
Look,i am not saying that a woman should
be sterilized if she has a drug
problem.What I did say was that if a woman
has many children and keeps doing drugs
and will not seek to help herself or stop
having unprotected sex-perhaps she should
consider having that procedure instead of
having abortions and/or giving her
children up to state care.If you are
keeping your children and raising them as
best you can-that is your business.I am
addressing situations where a woman has
children,does drugs and gives them up to
state care.No where did I say every child
born with drugs in their system is
destined to fail.If they are being cared
for and loved,that is the best advantage
they and all children can have.If a child
is given up at birth and not raised in a
loving environment(an institutional
setting),it has been shown that the child
will not do as well as those children who
are loved and held and nurtured.That is my
point,it was not directed at anyone in
particular and I am sorry if anyone took
it as such.
Patty
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 01-30-05 23:58pm
No I don't "pm about you" you ignorant
fool. I said i've gotten pms from people
who are pro-life, and agree that you are
very immature, and don't know the meaning
of deabte.
I haven't lied about anything, you think
everyone who disagrees with you is lying.
Open your eyes.
You know, the things people point out
about other people, are actually the flaws
they're insecure with themselves.
Sad, sad girl.
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SamiNSunisMa
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 1528
Posted: 01-31-05 01:00am
Im going to say this civilly patty
everything you say is an insult. I lost 3
children and didn't get help. I hated
sami while I was pregnant with him I
absolutely hated him, because of him I was
sent to treatment, away from his father...
Etc. But now, if you met me, you'd never
know that, I don't mean to brag, but i'm a
damn good mother. People can straighten
out. So you can back up and try not to
offend me, but even rewording it, yeah, I
guess I should *still* be sterilized in
your opinion. I never have used bcp
except when I was abstinent (go figure).
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PattyV
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 02-04-05 11:31am
I do not say anywhere in my posts anything
about mandatory sterilization.I do not
address those who are caring for their
children.I am glad you are a good
mother,suni.I am also glad that you got
help.I do address those who do not care
about their children and give them up for
adoption when the chances of them getting
adopted are slim.I am truly sorry if you
did not see that in my posts,but if you
read them,you will see that.What I did say
is that if a woman knows she will not stop
using drugs,she should do her best to make
sure she does not get pregnant.If that
means a permanent solution,that should be
her choice-i never mention mandatory
sterilization,that is someone else's
post.I was a wild child in the past and I
did many foolish things,but I always made
sure that I used birth control.
Patty
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SamiNSunisMa
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 1528
Posted: 02-05-05 17:39pm
Lol its ok patty, I wrote that in a very
hormonal stage... Its all good, I
understand what you are saying
