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Kourtney08
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Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 01-28-05 00:51am
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What would you want a 24 year old
crackhead, who just got pregnant, and
doesn't want to give the baby up for
adoption, and doesn't want to keep the
child because she can't quit smoking
crack, and her other 5 kids are in foster
care because of her drug addiction, and
shes smoking crack while shes pregnant? I
want honest answers.. I want to see
pro-lifers and pro-choicers tell me what
they think, without being mean to each
other.
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 01-28-05 01:16am
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Doesn't matter what she wants to do
because the state can step in and take the
child away from her and sever her parental
rights...So if she wants to keep it or not
after it's born, if she's doing drugs
it's really not much her choice.
I don't think the baby should have to die
because of her actions. Not all "crack
babies" are born with severe
impairments...And even if the child will
be born with problems it doesn't deserve
to die. Should she abort? Nope....Why
should the baby die because of her
mistakes? And if the baby should die from
drug related problems after birth...She
should be prosecuted for the death of that
child.
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FISHX
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Posted: 01-28-05 02:01am
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The baby should be taken from her at
birth.
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 01-28-05 08:10am
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Why would she neither want to give it up
for adoption, and not want to keep
it....???
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SamiNSunisMa
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Posted: 01-28-05 11:05am
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Oh geez, sounds like my girl rachel, and
yes, her kids were taken away, staying
with her mother or the child's father.
She is pregnant agian and forced to enter
rehab, now please tell me, is it such a
bad thing having to go to rehab ? :roll:
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steen
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Posted: 01-28-05 12:27pm
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She could have an abortion if she so
choses. It is not anybody else's
business what she does with the embryo or
fetus.
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 01-28-05 12:55pm
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| steen
wrote: | | she could have an abortion
if she so choses. It is not anybody
else's business what she does with the
embryo or
fetus. |
::sigh:: yes, we all know she could have
an abortion if she wants to......Her
choice, not my buisiness...Yada yada
yada.....Does it still make it right??
::sigh::
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steen
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:22pm
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Brian, I thought the idea of this tread
was to state opinions without the fights?
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Kourtney08
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Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 01-28-05 14:02pm
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<<<doesn't matter what she wants
to do because the state can step in and
take the child away from her and sever her
parental rights...So if she wants to keep
it or not after it's born, if she's doing
drugs it's really not much her choice.
>>>>
yeah, thats if they find out shes a
crackhead. Remember that crackheads don't
go to their doctors appointments.
I was asking because my bestfriends,
sisters, bestfriend (did you get that?)
has 4 kids, and 2 of them have already
been raped and molested at 8 because her
moms a crack addict.
So you guys are saying even if the woman
is a crackhead, doesn't care about this
pregnancy but is still going to go through
with it, while on crack, while her other
kids are being raped and molested. You'd
want her to go through it anyways because
it would be better for the "baby?"
obviously the state hasn't taken her
kids..So don't use "she should get her
kids taken away."
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Kourtney08
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Posted: 01-28-05 14:04pm
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<<<she should not get an abortion
and I believe this because of exactly what
mom2trevor stated. The baby should not be
punished because of the crackhead
mother>>>
well, don't you think her other kids, and
the unborn fetus are being punished
anyways?
If fetuses actually knew what was going
on, and I was a fetus in a crackheads
stomach, i'd abort myself.
<<<does it still make it right??
::sigh::>>>
you're right, its not right....For you.
But for someone else it may be right.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-28-05 14:15pm
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| kourtney08
wrote: | <<<doesn't matter
what she wants to do because the state can
step in and take the child away from her
and sever her parental rights...So if she
wants to keep it or not after it's born,
if she's doing drugs it's really not much
her choice. >>>>
yeah, thats if they find out shes a
crackhead. Remember that crackheads
don't go to their doctors appointments.
I was asking because my bestfriends,
sisters, bestfriend (did you get that?)
has 4 kids, and 2 of them have already
been raped and molested at 8 because her
moms a crack addict.
So you guys are saying even if the woman
is a crackhead, doesn't care about this
pregnancy but is still going to go through
with it, while on crack, while her other
kids are being raped and molested. You'd
want her to go through it anyways because
it would be better for the "baby?"
obviously the state hasn't taken her
kids..So don't use "she should get her
kids taken
away." |
i don't want to be rude or anything but
why don't you call the state on her???
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Kourtney08
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-28-05 15:14pm
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And they haven't done anything???? When
it comes to things like this I think court
ordered sterilization should come into
play. As for abortinmg the child she's
carrying, who's to say she would even go
to the appointment...
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Kourtney08
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Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 01-28-05 15:25pm
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A crackhead would go to an appointment
like that. Come on, she'll get some
pills, and she wont have to a carry a
child that'll probably come out with fas
and addicted to crack.
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SamiNSunisMa
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Posted: 01-28-05 16:53pm
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Heres what I did, called cps! Those kids
need help, im not trying to be a health
forum, but why are you so concerned about
the fetus when the children are being
raped, molested and probably beaten?
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bd1012
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Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 01-28-05 18:19pm
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| kourtney08
wrote: | | a crackhead would go to an
appointment like that. Come on, she'll
get some pills, and she wont have to a
carry a child that'll probably come out
with fas and addicted to
crack. |
yep.. My mom aborted... The baby would
have had fas and be a crackbaby also..
She almost aborted again after her second
upp since me but was too far along.
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Kourtney08
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Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 01-28-05 18:26pm
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<<<those kids need help, im not
trying to be a health question, but why
are you so concerned about the fetus when
the children are being raped, molested and
probably beaten? >>>
im already worried about the other
children, and have been. The cops, and
social services have been called on her.
I don't know why she still has her kids.
Im not the cops.
Thats not what we're talking about though.
I asked a question..What would you want
someone in that situation do?
Not that this makes it any better since
shes a crackhead, but she doesn't beat her
chilren. The kids were molested by the
dads friends, and im sure they've been
neglected a lot. I wish someone would
take them..But they haven't. Im not going
to sit at my house all day dwelling on it
though, while I have a daughter to take
care of. Atleast im doing a good job.
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SamiNSunisMa
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Posted: 01-28-05 18:42pm
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I called cps and within 72 hrs all 4
children were removed... They found crack
in the house and now she's in rehab. Her
child she's pregnant with will be given to
her mother or the child's father (my
future bil) will get custody
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Kourtney08
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Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 01-28-05 19:06pm
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I live in a very small town in alaska.
Things like that take forever here. This
town is caca.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-28-05 23:14pm
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With this so-called privacy act and he
said, she said their are times that their
isn't much where the state can always do
something about this and there are times
where people on crack can seem pretty
normal. A large % of crack babies(post
birth) never make it to be children, they
live in a vegetative state. The state
has there hands tied a lot of the times.
First of all, the system needs to be
changed, we cannot lock up all the
druggies, molesters, abusers, neglectors,
frauds, thiefs, etc.. In one town I
lived in, we did not have police officers
after 7:pm. With all of the cutbacks and
all, it is heck. I work alot of extra
time where I do not get paid, just to wrap
up a case, or @ the hospital if we are
busy and short handed. We need to keep
an open-mind about abortion.
Sincerely,
sandy
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