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FISHX

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Posted: 01-30-05 14:42pm

Ok thank you thats a bit clearer now.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-31-05 00:02am

You showed up talking caca the first time I entered this board. And I know for a fact its because I was supporting the pro-choice side. I commented on a post that had been dead, I didn't realize it, I was just posting what I felt, my opinion which im allowed to have but you seem to think that you're the only one with an opinion around here. Sweety, the world does not revolve around you, it never will, get over that right now. You came there and said I was "health forum and whining" when I was stating my opinion, you know if I was pro-life you would have agreed with whatever I said, and wouldn't have been rude. So please, tell me whos the hypocrite now?

Yeah, thats what I thought, think about it.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-31-05 21:07pm

*omg lyk totaly rolls eyes 5 times*
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 01-31-05 23:30pm

There are quiet a few abortion centers that provide 24 to 24.5 week abortions for people just because they want to have them done...Not just for medical reasons.

Jacksonvilleabortion.Com

drtiller.Com

wholewomanshealth.Com


and there are many many more....Notice these 2nd trimester abortions are offered for *any* reason!

*i personally* think it's sick!
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steen

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:40am

[quote="jlee77"]and no human alive can tell me these 24 week old babies do not feel the pain of being either sucked or ripped out of the mother's womb.Quote]that's right, nobody can tell you that, because you don't care about the facts, as long as you have your wishful thinking. Once you decide on a lie like that, you always see it as true, regardless of evidence.
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steen

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Posted: 02-01-05 14:21pm

jlee77 wrote:
nobody can tell me that because the baby is 24 weeks and can live outside the womb. Something tells me if a baby can live outside the womb, he/she can sure as hell feel pain. Actually my beliefs say he/she feels pain weeks before week 24 anyhow.
yes, your *beliefs* tell you that, and as such, regardless of the facts disproving your belief, you won't listen because you confuse your beliefs with facts. So once again, yes nobody can tell you the truth because you have decided to stick with an outright lie as a personal belief.
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as i've stated time and time again based on research, brain activity starts at 40 days post conception along with heartbeat activity. And there is my reasoning.
really? Based on "research"? And this research showed brain "activity"? What kind of activity? Plant cells show activity. You can get the same readings off a plant that you can from afetal eeg before week 26 of the pregnancy. So what?

Oh, now we get it. You are claiming that mere cell activity signifies a cinscious brain, aren't you? Yup, what a silly notion. Hey, it is not my fault that your claim is so ridiculous. I have provided the scientific evidence to you many times, and you have chosen to ignore it for your personal lie because your lie fits better with your political agenda. Yes, I know that, but I will still continue to challenge your lie whenever you post it.
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steen

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Posted: 02-01-05 14:27pm

Uhum, jlee, I think you "forgot" to actually provide any actual evidence for your lies about fetal pain other than 'because I believe so." must have been an oversight. So could you please actually provide some scientific evidence for this, something I haven't taken apart before?
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steen

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Posted: 02-01-05 14:36pm

jlee77 wrote:
steen wrote:
uhum, jlee, I think you "forgot" to actually provide any actual evidence for your lies about fetal pain other than 'because I believe so." must have been an oversight. So could you please actually provide some scientific evidence for this, something I haven't taken apart before?
****a.G.A.I.N.....

I've provided it many times. I can go provide it again you nuisance.
But I already know to provide it means to come on here and listen to you babble how it's biased.
ah, so you are talking about tha same crap that I disproved before, the crap from the prolie sites. Ah, but of course.

Well, jlee, what I am actually looking for is something that is scientifically correct, not just from your political leanings.
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....Go ahead and search google or yahoo for a # of things.....
ah, yes, and there is your problem. Try searching the scientific sources instead of your antichoice liesites.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 02-01-05 14:57pm

<<<this is exactly the nonsense I was talking about coming from people like steen and kourtney>>>

ahh, and you say that I can't make a post without talking about you...Hmm.

Nonsense? Im sorry honey, but my opinion is not nonsense, and I didn't say yours was, so how about you learn the word "respect" and stop being such an ignorant little brat. People are going to disagree with you, its nothing to get your panties in a bunch over. Move on already.

Oh, and I wont say the the fetus can or cannot feel pain, because im not a fetus. I don't really think anyone can make that assumption.
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steen

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Posted: 02-01-05 16:41pm

jlee77 wrote:
actually none of them had an political sense to them, except maybe one or two when I first came to the dabate forum. You already know this though. Again i'm repeating myself. They were purely medical in nature.
you are lying. There was no scientific medical information supporting any of your lies, in any of the sources you provided.

But then, we already knew that. If there is a thing I can't stand, it is liars. And you lie. *a lot*
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