You've got a point there. But, my pregnancy was wonderful. Although there were some complications I loved every minute of it :)

what I was wondering, was are all pro-life people vegetarians? Because if not, then..Isn't that kinda hypocritical?

Good points bd, but I don't beleive pregnancy is a "dirty" thing......I know I won't have my period for 9 months, does that make me cleaner?? Lol!!

I eat meat~it's yummy!! Lol!! I beleive it not to be hypocritical becuase god gave humans power of animals.....

Do people who have abortions eat the fetus?? (not directed to anyone~just a random comment)

Yeah it is isn't it.

Yes~that's why I said it was

Well what about the poor baby cows? They deserve to live to, and they're killed after they're born. What about the mommy cow, her baby was killed.

But you eat meat? :roll:

lol

It was just something that popped up while I was reading another debate were a prolife person was telling someone else to "get fixed"..

To make sterile : as a : to cause (land) to become unfruitful b (1) : to deprive of the power of reproducing (2) : to make incapable of germination c : to make powerless or useless usually by restraining from a normal function, relation, or participation d : to free from living microorganisms



don't see a whole lot about "cleanliness" there...

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well, if we're going to start bringing up things that happend years ago. Lets bring up the fact that people used to be animals. Mmmmmkay? Cows are not humans, and humans are not cows. They're living things just like humans, so if you're saying that little "babies" shouldn't get aborted, then you'd support the fact that cows shouldn't get slaughtered for you to eat. So people who get abortions are selfish, so are people who kill animals then right? Lol

Sorry i,m a vegan but still not classed as pro life because I do belive in the death penalty and revenge being justified.


Please note this is fact.

right this argument is really daft,heres the thing,what is worst a human killing an animal to survive,or a human killing a human because they dont feel its the time.Right are you saying that to eat meat to live is the same as having an abortion for a non life threatening reason{as I agree that abortion should be available for life threatening reasons,not social reasons,but thats another thread}.



We are still animals but what sets us apart from other animals are two things,
1 we have thumbs.

2 we are the only animals on this planet that kill each other for reasons other than survival

no other animals do this
what you are really saying with this post is if you do not agree with abortion then you should starve to death,does that sound sensible
now this argument has been used hundreds of times please it is not valid for either side so lets leave it alone

God gave humans the power over animals....And kourtney I believe you said something very important....

Well what about the poor baby cows? They deserve to live to, and they're killed after they're born. What about the mommy cow, her baby was killed


after they're born.....Abortion deals with the animal before it's born......

So you rather have death after birth where whatever it is that is dying can actually understand what's going on and feel everything?

I personaly would like no death through termination but I know it will never be outlawed so is it not better to fight for safer terminations or at least stricter guidlines.


Please note this is only an opinion.

Ok let me get this straight.. You say it's ok for you to kill cows for food becuase iyo.. They are not significant..


We say it's ok to abort because we believe that the zef is not nearly as important as the woman..Meaning it's not significant.


What makes your opinion better than ours?

Just to be clear.. I eat meat.. I love meat and I will choose steak over salad anyday.. And I have no problem with those who eat meat and the only reason we use this argument is because you all like to play the "but it has a heartbeat" card and the "abortion is selfish" card.. Well the cow had a hearbeat and how is it not selfish to slaughter it for your own personal gain? Again, I will repeat this.. Selfishness does not mean you are a bad person.. Not necesarrily at least.. It depends on the situation. All selfishness is, is putting your needs over others and how is deciding to slaughter a cow so you can eat meat instead of letting it live freely not selfish? The cow can feel what's happening to it and understand... I wouldn't say the fetus can not because truthfully I don't know but I will say that it is definate that the cow feels while fetal pain is questionable.

sterile handwashing and surgical suite (kill off all germs).

actually, chimps fit both of those. And so do some apes and monkeys.

actually, there is no independently verified evidence for this.

abortion is already the safest surgical procedure in the us. The unsafe abortions are the illegal ones. But yes, it would be great to make it even safer. One way would be to decrease the woman's stress. And a major source of stress is to have to run the gauntlet of vicious prolife protesters at the clinic entrance. So if you truly want to improve the situation, you should agree that the protesters need to go away. Well, that's nice of you. Much appreciated.

your very welcome