Exactly, give me all the numbers you want, but I thought pro-choice was about the individual woman :roll:

saying, "i think abortion is wrong" is a feeling. Saying "9 out of 10 women who abort will have 'pas' " is a lie, since that has been established to not be the case.

Rosie

i'm talking about when we link sites that have personal testimonials and we're still called liars or whatever cause it's not "scientific"

i don't consider those sites "lies" but I also don't consider them grounds for making abortion illegal.

Rosie

maybe not illegal but there should be limits and better education given on bc.

How can you limit abortion? It is either wrong or it isn't.. That simple. The fourth fetus isn't any more valuable than the first and it's not the laws duty to make sure people are being responsible if their "lack" of responsibility isn't 100% proved to harm someone. Otherwise overeating, smoking, gambling, excessive spending and any other irresponsible behavior would be banned.

women that go and get an abortion everytime they get pregnant to me is wrong. They should be sterilized. If someone is gonna keep getting abortions then they are not "fit" to be a parent and should not even have the option of conceiving. Imo

That brings me to the point that if you think women who get abortions are so selfish and immature than what makes you think that would be good parents? Also their are millions of people up for adoption just waiting, why do we need 3000 more? I mean, you've all seen what happens when people who aren't ready for parenthood are forced into it. Just look at the andrea yates case. She was clearly not fit to be a parent so that just proves that having a uterus does not qualify you to be a parent.. A born baby is not a doll, it's a live human being and some people can't even take care of their own selfs let alone another being that needs ten times more attention and care then a grown person and that's ones without disabilites. You really have to be good parent material to deal with one with disabilities. You will probably be like "ok, well then she shoudl adopt it out".. Well we have gone over this before, the father of the child has to consent and like you said.. Some people can get attached to it after a while and just can't give it up. And again what about when someone gets pregnant and already has a few kids? How is that kid going to feel if it finds out it's mom has other kids that she kept but gave him/her up?

:roll: I must say, I was no where near ready, mothering is an instinct all women have!

I also have to say that I am so sick of the *liar liar* argument....Personal experiences are not lies...

We can't even long on without being attacked and it's really annoying.

Bd-did you watch Dr. Phil yetserday?? It was about adoption from all sides. There was a woman who called herself an adoption success story and she met her birth mom and sister and had no hard feelings towards her birth mother because she knew it was done out of love.

And women who go and get 1 abortion cause of an error in judgement i'm sure will make a great mom one day but women who keep getting them....??????

yeah.. Whatever.. Nice generilization there hil. All women do this, all women do that. Speak for yourself.

no I did not watch dr phil. Btw.. That was just one person who had a success story.. At least you only mentioned one.. Not all turn out that way.

its like a monkey learning to swim, a baby is in danger you try to save it, its instinct!

yeah... Just like the people who forget their kids in a car and abuse thier children. Right.. Everyone has the motherhood instinct.. That's why my mom chose drugs and alchy over me. Whatever you say hil :roll:

well she was one I saw. My aunt was adopted and has no hard feelings towards her birthmom either. Then again her birth mom is my other aunt... Long story... But I know quite a few adoption success stories.

Pro-choice are definitely not the only one's who are calling people liars.
B/c is not 100% effective.
I know of 100's and 1,000's of adoptions that have not gone thru.

Sincerely,
sandy

i agree about better education on bc, but disagree about limits on how many abortions a woman can get. For one, it's nobody's business how many abortions someone has and for another, it's unenforceable.

Rosie

i am adopted and I would never do that to a child. I know what it's like to gorw up not knowing who you are or where you came from. Besides, I am not willing to gestate a pregnancy, period.

Rosie