We will stop when you all stop telling us what to do with our bodies.. Until then.. Deal with it.

you are not a moderator here, so you don't get to tell me what to do. When someone makes an issue of the zef having a "beating heart" it is perfectly valid to point out that the cow in your freezer had a beating heart, too.

Rosie

bd when have I ever told you what to do with your body?????????? I would not get an abortion. I don't give a flying medical question if you do.

Ms. Rosie, go eat a zef...... You guys sound completely ignorant when u compare an unborn child (oops fetus) to a cow. Imo
i'm ashamed you are canadian with your nasty hoitytoity attitude!

if you don't care so much.. Then why the hell are you in here debating with us? Also.. If the zef is so important.. Then why aren't you out to "save" it like all the others?

And btw.. You act like zygote/embryo/fetus are terms we just made up to "hide from the truth".. They are accurate real medical terms.. There aint nothing wrong with using them.. I thought the "truth" was important to you. Yet you seem to get upset when people use true terms :roll:

ok so it's ok when someone mur.Ders someone else (i'm talking about a full fledged child, teenager or adult) since cows have beating hearts... Ok good to know neighbour!

No.. We aren't saying that at all.. We are just saying that if you eat a hamburger and then yell at people for abortion because the zef has a beating heart.. That makes you a hypocrite.. What we are trying to say is that if you are so prolife.. Then why are you only concerned about a fetus and not all life?

i showed you yesterday why I lean more towards pro-life than abortion. I don't agree with all the pro-choice terminology. Like i've said before I have friends who've had abortions, family too and I still love them all. I just find it sick when people compare animals to humans, or excessive car buying to excessive abortions. And once again, I don't eat meat bd, so stop saying that because I eat a burger I am a hypocrite.



i don't care what you do, but maybe others can learn. Isn't that what a forum is for???? As for you using the terms zef, fetus, whatever, I don't want to use that term, my doc doesn't use that term (he calls it the baby) so call it what you want I put it in brackets so that I won't get caca on for calling it a baby!

Fine then.. Use what you want.. Just don't try to pass it off as fact and act like we are hiding behind false terms.

once again darling bd. I never said you were hiding behind false terms and I never tried to pass callling my future baby: "my baby" as a fact. To me the fetus in my stomach is my child. And I will never call it anything else. Next month when I find out the sexe i'll be so happy to stop calling it an it and will be even closer to my child!

see you always sound like you're talking!!!-lol I have problems withforums cause things come out the wrong way, and if I was face to face with someone it would come out .W.A.Y differently!!!

really? No comparison? Well, they both have a "beating heart," right? If you don't like the comparison, perhaps you shouldn't make arguments that fits both in the first place.
just like it is moroning to use the "fetus has a heartbeat" once it is aborted.
hmm, not like you who are just here to lie, then.
person troll fool, nobody here have made any claim stating that it is ok to kill babies.

certainly. Good evidence that using the "beating heart" argument is inanely stupid.
nobody claimed that, person. The only claim is that when there is such a big emphasis on the fetus merely because it has a beating heart, then everything with a beating heart ought to have such attention, right?
please provide evidence that humans "reign" over *all* species. I would love to see, f.Ex. How we reign over the tubeworms at the deep sea vents.
but then, nobody made that claim anyway, your usual lies to the contrary.
jlee, you really should stop talking to the mirror.
a flatout lie, as is expected from you. Please provide evidence for that lie, stupid fool. Stinking pro-life liar indeed. You really is a credit to pro-life. Great at demonstrating how much you pro-life guys lie.

really? How do you reign over the deep sea vent tube worms? Oh, that's right. You don't. Any other lies you want to spew? (that is a rethorical question. Of course you hasve more lies. You always have another lie, troll).
nice example of how you could not provide the actual proof for your incesant lies. Keep on demonstrating how much pro-lifers lie, jlee. You are doing a good job at it.

well, you claim to have reign over the deep sea vent tubeworms, right? Please provide proof.

Nah, of course not as that was just another in your incessant stream of continuous lies.

Cows are sacred in some countries, they would kill a person before they would a cow probably.
All ther best to ya!
Sandy

What the he*l does a hamburger have to do with an aborted baby? That is just disgusting....

Yeah sandy some people (hindus) do hold cattle as supreme beings. Cattle have no value here except what they can pull at the market..And by keeping abortion legal it shows that human life doesn't have much value either and I think that is rather pathetic. It's really sad that another human life can be ended simply because you want it to.

if that were true, then it would be legal to kill anyone for any reason.



it's really sad that some think so little of women they'd force us to gestate like broodmares.

Rosie

How can someone value human life when they feel they can end it when they feel like it? That shows no value for human life now doesn't it? Considering life begins at conception or do you just now know that either?

Forcing someone to gestate...Well funny they aren't crying that when they are on their backs getting pregnant right? It's only when they realize they have responsibility that they cower and run to the closest abortion clinic. That argument is just down right ignorant....

Jlee.. What's your favorite hobby?

Btw hun.. I'd love to keep mine closed.. But I happen to have a bf who doesnt' want to go without and no he won't pressure me but I do feel guilty making him suffer and yes.. Occasionally he does please himself to take the focus off me. Btw..He's prolife and christian.. And I asked him last night about the "keep your legs closed" argument.. He gave the right answer.. Even he believes that is an unrealistic expectation.. If he had said that he agreed with the "keep your legs closed" argument.. I would have smacked him right across his face and you know why..