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Q: Anyone Had Experience With a Lover Actually Changing?
asked by: mjk on January 4th, 2005
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I've had a hard time with a man I love, I mean a real hard time. He's been depressed which isn't the big deal for me, I mean I can support him with it. It's that he becomes destructive of the relationship and shuts down. It's not a physical abuse thing but he becomes emotionally abusive when he is severely depressed. He does go to therapy and takes medication but they haven't had much luck. I realized he has a personality problem and must decide, like an alcoholic needs to decide, to face the trauma that is causing him to blow up his relationships--in other words, to feel his pain instead of causing pain to himself and others. He admits that he does this but seemed content to remain stuck in it.

So I did the only thing I could, and I separated from him, it hurts because we could have so much together. Unless he sees his problem...And what do I mean by problem you might say? One example, christmas eve I was making dinner, getting ready to spend the evening with him after he'd been staying at my place for several days. He came downstairs after sleeping most of the day--that's what he does when he is depressed. He said he was going to the store and did I want anything. I was ''slaving over a hot stove'' making sauce for a lasagna. I asked for some milk. He said ok and went out.

He called about an hour an a half later and told me he was not coming back to spend the night with me, because he was miserable. I was devastated--he knew i'd worked hard on the dinner, and that I did not go to my family's on christmas because he was with me. It seemed like a calculated cruelty. I cried and cried while he told me but he was heartless. It would not have killed him to be with me that night. This is the worst example of other kinds of patterns. It was so cruel, that's how it seemed to me. I saw the darkest part of him. He said he knew it was not right, etc., but would not come back from his apartment about 20 minutes away. I had just finished making chocolate mousse when he called. He left me alone on christmas eve, with a dinner all prepared and ready...And my heart broken. I can't tell you how badly he hurt me. It just felt so awful.

I brought his stuff over to his apartment as he had been staying with me. He said to me, ''thanks for bringing my stuff although I did not ask for it." I said to him, "i guess you are not responsible for anything are you." I have told him he must make a conscious decision to go into recovery (this is a borderline kind of personality thing in my opinion which needs the same kind of treatment as addiction). I tried to get through to him how much he hurt me and how selfish he has become, and that his mood was no excuse for cruelty. I withdrew from the relationship. I urged him to feel his pain instead of remaining numb to it and thereby passing it on to others...

I wanted to ask anyone out there, does anyone know of a situation where someone actually changed, where someone did do the right thing? I have seen this before and I am totally aware that usually this doesn't happen.

Anyone out there want to share a story? I have no intention of seeing him again unless he has committed to recovery. I grieve because despite what happened, when he is not depressed he is just a delightful companion. We have so much in common. This is so sad. I really love him and he just doesn't know how to accept love and return it.

Oh well. Eyes are full here. I've been dating him seven months. He seemed like an answer in my life...Oh well.

Thanks.
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BSM
replied on January 5th, 2005
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I have heard of people making an honest attempt at getting over their emotional blocks and pain they cause their partner. I think you did the right thing, for what it's worth. Relationships are about compromise, to be sure, but not to the extent of the partner's values. You were certainly right to feel hurt after all the prep for christmas dinner, not to mention that you wre going to miss that time with your family to be with him. I think he has given you clear signs that he is unable to get past his own issues. Keep the break..Get invoved with a hobby or volunteer somewhere to re-focus your time and heart. I wish you strength and good luck.

Bsm
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Garnet
replied on January 11th, 2005
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Someone in that much emotional turmoil has a very long way to go and it is not going to be pretty or easy. He probably will not recover. You were enabling him and it felt good to have someone be dependant on you, felt like real commitment but as you have discoverd it was not commitment at all. He is not whole enough to make a real commitment.


Find a healthier person and get some help yourself with your issues of enabling and attracting dependant men. It is a common pattern. Women are the caretakers, men are the dependants who are emotionally crippled and numb. They can't feel because they are in too much pain.


Good luck, and really get some support. Hypnosis or past life regression can really short cut the process if it appeals to you. I have worked with this process from both sides, as both the recipient and the coach. Plr is an amazing tool. Find someone who does not charge an arm and a leg. Read some of brian weiss and hazel denning's books on plr first for an idea of what it can do for people. It is like reliving the source of your issues and can lift the mystery surrounding deep issues.
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Justin_Toronto
replied on January 29th, 2005
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I'm sorry to hear about this. However, i'm glad you are fully aware of what's going on and made the proper step on your own. You're very right when you say it's rare that people change... However, I do know of two incidences.

1) a lady friend of mine who was married to her husband for 10 years. He was physically abusive, alcoholic, and really held her back. She finally put her foot down, forced a divorce and did not allow him to even come back without any councelling. This went on for a year. Needless to say, it's been around 25 years now, they have two fully grown children, and probably one of the happiest couples i've seen in a very long time.

2) a younger couple. She was with her boyfriend for 6 years, when she couldn't take any more of his mental abusiveness / putting her down / the yelling / belittling / etc. She left him and would not keep contact with him. It took him another 3 years of begging, crying, he never let up. He changed in those 3 years and never saw anyone else... Although she did (kind-of.. Nothing that lasted more than a few dates). In either case, they're back together, been married for 4 years. Very healthy relationship and a baby on the way.

So it does happen, but don't get your hopes up. If he changes, it's because he wants to do it---not because you want him to do it. It's something he'll have to do himself, and brace yourself... It can take a while.

Good luck,
justin
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