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Q: Condoms: a Standard Practice For All!
asked by: Bradford on December 23rd, 2004
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Condoms: a standard practice for all!


We know many of our youth are having sex and will have sex in the future. To teach abstinence without including education on the need for a condom and how to use a condom will lead to more hiv and std infections. Education is the key!


Around the world the use of condoms is seen as a trusted weapon in the prevention of hiv infection, however, these efforts are often hampered by religious beliefs.


President bush has clearly given preferential treatment by providing funding to hiv/aids groups and organizations which promote abstinence; over those promoting the use of condoms! Steven sinding, director general of the international planned parenthood federation says condoms will remain key preventive tools for many, many years to come. The u.S. Policy of emphasizing abstinence is a serious setback to the aids control effort.

The pope refuses to recognize the harm the catholic church is causing with it's refusal to promote condom use in the prevention of hiv and aids. Hiv individuals have even been told by priests and nuns that they should not use condoms. Religious leaders who forcefully directed and encourage abstinence have stopped campaigns on the use of condoms!


At the 2004 international aids conference in bangkok, thailand, ugandan president yoweri museveni said in some cultures sexual intercourse is so elaborate that condoms are a hindrance. Let the condom be used by people who cannot abstain, cannot be faithful or are estranged.

Condoms may not be preferred but the reality is they are now necessary. The use of condoms saves lives and condoms work to prevent the further spread of hiv!

Everyone working to promote abstinence as a method of preventing hiv infection should have to include education on the need for a condom and how to use a condom! Condoms prevent hiv infection!


We know that individuals who are told they must refrain from sex or make pledges of abstinence that they are very often ill prepared and a condom is not used when they do engage in sex. They become infected!


We also know that we cannot rely on the pledge of fidelity. Many women and men who considered themselves to be in a monogamous relationship were infected by their spouse. This is clearly evident now with the increase of hiv infections among married women. Knowledge of and the use of a condom is necessary in relationships!

Responsible sexual conduct means using a condom and if this is not being taught then many more people will be infected with hiv.

We will not see change in the hiv/aids pandemic until the use of
condoms are a standard practice for all!


Bradford mcintyre, hiv 20 years
vancouver, canada
Positivelypositive.Ca
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terryd
replied on May 9th, 2006
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The 'prostitute' paradox

if 'aids' ('hiv') was sexually transmitted, we should find it in sex-trade workers. The following references, including five studies published in prestigious scientific journals, demonstrate no sexual transmission.


In this study, the authors estimated overall and cause-specific mortality among prostitute women. They recorded information on prostitute women identified by police and health department surveillance in colorado springs, colorado, from 1967 to 1999. The authors assessed cause-specific mortality in this open cohort of 1,969 women [...]

violence and drug use were the predominant causes of death, both during periods of prostitution and during the whole observation period. [...] deaths from acquired immunodeficiency syndrome occurred exclusively among prostitutes who admitted to injecting drug use or were inferred to have a history of it.


Potterat j j et al. Mortality in a long-term open cohort of prostitute women. Am j epidemiol 2004;159:778-785.


During a 36-month period, a multidisciplinary team manned a van that visited the major location of open prostitution in the tel aviv area [...]

all 128 females who did not admit to drug abuse were seronegative.


A thorough search of recent literature fail to demonstrate unequivocal seropositivity among british, french, german, italian, or dutch prostitutes without drug histories.


Modan, b et al. Prevalence of hiv antibodies in transsexual and female prostitutes, american journal of public health. 1992;82(4):590-592.


Michael wright also report this study in a former aids researcher has second thoughts, part one: manufacturing the aids scare.



In order to determine whether prostitutes operating outside of areas of high drug abuse have equally elevated rates of infection, 354 prostitutes were surveyed in tijuana, mexico [...]

none of the 354 [blood] samples [...] was positive for hiv-1 or hiv-2

condoms were used [...] for less than half of their sexual contacts.


Only 4 female prostitutes (1%) admitted to ever having abused intravenous drugs.


Infection with hiv was not found in this prostitute population despite the close proximity to neighboring san diego, ca, which has a high incidence of diagnosed cases of aids, and to los angeles, which has a reported 4% prevalence of hiv infection in prostitutes.

Hyams kc et al. Hiv infection in a non-drug abusing prostitute population. Scandinavian journal of infectious diseases. 1989;21(3):353-4.


David crowe also report this study in referenced quotes about transmission of hiv and aids.



In order to evaluate the frequency of sexual transmission of human immunodeficiency virus (hiv) among promiscuous heterosexuals, we studied the prevalence of hiv infection among a group of predominantly caucasian call girls and women working for escort services and massage parlors in new york city. In the 78 subjects studied, the mean age was 31.6 years and the mean duration of prostitution was 5.1 years. Study participants each had a median of 200 different sexual partners in the preceding year. [...]

none of the 72 non-drug-abusers were seropositive for hiv. This study indicates that despite their promiscuity, hiv infection is still uncommon in call girls in new york city

seidlin m et al. Prevalence of hiv infection in new york call girls. Journal of acquired immune deficiency syndromes. Jaids, 1988;1(2):150-4


448 licensed female prostitutes in nuremburg, west germany, were studied in march and april 1986.


No prostitute tested was anti-hiv positive [...] they had been prostitutes for 77 months on average [...] the mean number of clients was 13 per week [...]

this heterosexually very active group of women has remained free from hiv infection.


Smith gl, smith kf. Lack of hiv infection and condom use in licensed prostitutes. Lancet. 1986;1392.


In september, 1985, we collected 56 samples of blood in the rue saint-denis, the most notorious street in paris for prostitution. [...]

no prostitute was seropositive.


These women, aged 18-60 have sexual intercourse 15-25 times daily and do not routinely use protection. Although contracting aids is greatly feared by these women, only 15 used condoms with all their customers.


[...] none of the paris prostitute was a drug addict.


Brenky-faudeux d, fribourg-blanc a. Htlv-iii antibody in prostitutes. Lancet. 1985;2:1424.


The same results were reported from amsterdam, one of the world's centers of legalized prostitution. When several hundred non-drug using prostitutes were studied, investigators found no hiv-positive women even though they averaged more than 200 clients per year

coutinho ra, van der helm th. [no indications for lav/htlv-iii in non-drug-using prostitutes in amsterdam]. Ned tijdschr geneeskd, 1986;130(11):508. As presented by david w. Rasnick, phd, in a letter published by the british medical journal sex has nothing to do with aids.


We saw that sexual transmission has not been demonstrated in sex-trade workers. Of course, those who take hard drugs are more likely to become sick, it has nothing to do with 'hiv' or 'aids'. Strong drugs have a proven immune suppressive effect, and intravenous drugs injections often carry some foreign proteins, adding an extra burden on the immune system.

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HIVRHH
replied on May 9th, 2006
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Don't listen to that crap from a denialist. Terry is posting crap that has no scientific merit.
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spooled2k3
replied on May 9th, 2006
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I dont know much on this right now, but recently the pope has been thinking of the use of condoms (within) mariage when one partner is infected and the other is not. But doesnt that defeat the purpose sex for procreation in the eyes of the church.
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HIVRHH
replied on May 10th, 2006
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Only in the eyes of the catholic church, not all sex is for the purpose of procreation. In the marriage if one spouse is negative and one positive, it is imperative that condoms are used.
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fern123
replied on May 17th, 2006
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Condoms definitely protect from hiv infection to a great extent. But to claim that condoms are a solution to hiv is fallacious.

The truth is condoms can't protect 100%. If the condom is defective, damaged due to heat or improper storage or breaks during usage, it is of no good and exposes the user to a significant risk similar to someone not using a condom.

Suggesting that anyone can have sex with everyone safely without getting hiv just by using condoms is just a deception. It is just like presuming you won't get lung cancer if you smoke just one cigarette a day.
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HIVRHH
replied on May 18th, 2006
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Fern123, nor can you put 100% on anything you buy. You can almost put a bet if you don't use a condom that it will be 100% that if you keep having sex with different sex partners, you'll end up with hiv or other stds.
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