This Is a Very Intriguing Thread Posted: 01-10-06 20:46pm
Like most everyone else that has posted to
this thread, I have similar symptoms that
have been described in many of the
aforementioned posts.
While I am not a clinician, I have worked
for many years in the pharmaceutical
industry doing research and have some
general observations/comments based on the
previous postings:
1. It is very likely that there is not a
single risk factor that is the cause of
our breathing irregularities. More
likely, it is combination of risk factors.
So for example, someone who is prone to
"panic attacks" or perhaps even
mild/moderatre anxiety may have an
increased likelihood of triggering this
breathing irregularity.
2. Anxiety attacks are often
charachterized by the inability to take a
deep breath and/or hyperventilation.
However, my understanding is that this is
more acute; whereas, most of the postings
seem to describe a more chronic condition.
3. I wonder how many posters to this
thread have pets living in their home.
It is quite possible that animal
hair/dander, as well as dust, could
trigger this irregularity.
4. I also wonder how many people live in
close proximity to either a major
metropolitan area or near a heavy
industrial site. (or conversely, how
many of you do not live near a major metro
area or industrial site).
5. Despite all of the external
conditions, I would seem that there is
something internal that increases the
likelihood that these external conditions
will trigger this response... I am very
cruious as to what that is.
On a personal note, I met with an leading
allergist in the new york city area and
she was stumped. My oxygenation was
98-99% (which is very good) and other
typical tests for asthma proved negative.
When she tried to suggest anxiety, I
really had to disagree. For me, this has
never been a problem and I found little
correlation to my circumstances at the
time of onset. Of course she still
prescribed advair. My personal and
professional opinion is that she was
throwing darts and I chose not to become a
dart board. By not filling the rx. My
next step is to consult another allergist.
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notsofastmonster
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Virginia
Posted: 01-12-06 22:18pm
Wow what a comfort it is to know i'm not
alone. I was doing a search tonight to
see if I could find some information and
ended up here. Many of you described the
feelings better than I could. I noticed
this problem several years ago (37 now)
and it would pass within a day.
Frustrating but I knew it would be short
lived. 3-4 days ago I got the feeling
again and when it didn't go away the next
day started to worry. 1 day was bad
enough, this is the pits. For me it
seems to be every few breaths to a few
minutes. I started wanting to take a
deep breath. Sometimes it takes a few
tries before I can take the breath.
Doing so though never satisfies me and the
cycle continues. Not sure what triggers
it. Stress could be. Last few days
have been very stressful. I can still
excercise (treadmill) just fine but when
i'm sitting around it gets worse. I'm
still aware of it while excercizing but it
doesn't seem as bad. Also I can't get a
decient yawn.
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nazz
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Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Japan
Posted: 01-13-06 11:24am
The only time I have experienced not being
able to take a deep breath and "feel
satisfied" is when i've been running long
distance, like in a "fun run", say 10 -
14kms. Also swimming, when i'm worn
out.
Its wierd, because its at a time when you
*need* to have that deep breath, but your
body won't let you take it for some
reason.
This has always passed quickly for me
however and i've been able to take that
deep breath several minutes later.
I am not an asthma sufferer by the way.
Cheers,
nathan.
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tony_1969m
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Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Centralia
I Have a Hard Time Breathing Posted: 01-14-06 14:55pm
Im glad I found this site. I have had
this breathing problem for 5 years now.
It would come and go. Then last feb it
started and has not went away. I cant do
anything without it getting hard to
breath. It takes me like 10 minutes to
get up a set of 6 stairs. It also happens
when I take a shower, when im drying off,
when I make my bed , and when I walk . I
cant get a good breath. It feels like the
air is not going all the way in my lungs.
I have a tight feeling all the way down
into my stomach. If I exert myself its
like all of the sudden I cant breath. I
dont have a cough or weezing. I have had
all kinds of test on lungs and heart.
Everything is fine. My lung doctor says I
should be able to run a marathon with my
lungs. There is one thing that also
happens to me that no one else seems to
have a problem with. When I eat I seem to
get this over full feeling and it causes
me not to be able to get a breath. I also
feel pressure on my rib cage when I try to
breath.
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Malory
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 95 Location: York, England
Posted: 01-15-06 10:14am
Your throat does not need to expand to
breathe. As someone said earlier, your
breath should come from your diaphragm
moving in and out, pushing the air out of
your lungs. The upper part of your chest
should not move very much when you
breathe.
You can practice by lying on the floor and
holding your hands on your belly. Your
belly should expalnd when you inhale
i have asthma, but I also have voice
training. I do not take any medication.
I find that the best way to improve
breathing is by doing abdominal exercises.
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ptuttle
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Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 4
Question For Hannahjune And Answer to Des240 Posted: 01-17-06 15:17pm
Hey hannahjune and whomoever else this may
apply to.
I saw your post where the doctor had you
taking medicine at night for what he
perceived as panic disorder. Was this due
to the fact that you would wake up at
night with "night terrors" or something
similar? I have posted on here before
that I suffer from the same symptoms as
everyone else, and it seemed to be the
worst at night. I found that the
breathing problems would get really bad
and when I fell asleep I would wake up
disoriented, dizzy and hallucinating. The
doctors didn't really know what ot make of
it, they sent me to be checked for a
hiatal hernia, but that came back
negative. What I have found to work for
me is positioning. If I lay on my back or
left side I will have a horrible night. I
wake up gasping for air and hallucinate
and all that. If I lay on my right side
im pretty much good to go. I may still
have minor breathing problems, but nothing
that can't be delt with. Give it a try if
you get a chance, I had to try a different
side each night until I found out what
worked for me. It's been working for
about a year now. Hasn't solved the
general breathing problem during the day,
but at least I can get good sleep now.
In answer to des240, I do have pets, 3
dogs 2 cats and a miniature pig. The cats
and pig are outside animals (the pig will
walk through the living room about once a
week) but the dogs come in almost every
night. We live in the middle of the
woods, very rural. I've also wondered
about our water. We are on a community
well, we don't have a softener or any kind
of filter. The problems started about 8
months after we moved into our current
home.
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Keith McDaid
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: New Jersey
Breathing Posted: 01-17-06 17:40pm
I have had this breathing problem for 25
years. I had it under control by not
thinking about it. Finally I was
complete! Breathing became normal again.
Now, my 7 yr old son has it. I feel
so bad for him. I really do not know
what to tell him except to not think about
the breathing. Whenever he starts to
experience it, I feel the problem coming
back to me. Also my 5 yr old is showing
signs of struggling to catch that
satisfying breath. Even as i'm typing
this, I feel myself trying to catch that
complete breath. For me it's
controllable, how do I convince a 7 yr to
relax? It's good to see i'm not alone.
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mj21
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1
Cant Breath Well Posted: 01-17-06 19:49pm
I have this problem where I cant breath
that well its is very annoying and I sit
with my mouth open for servel mins. I am
not sure why it happens or how it starts
but if you can help me out to figure out
what is wrong that would be so helpful
thanks
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sheryl ann
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: New Jersey, USA
Hi, I Sure Am Glad to Meet You All! Posted: 01-28-06 23:52pm
I never got over my fear of not being able
to get that satisfying eep breath, but I
want you all to know that i've had it
since I was 20 and i'm now 60 and it
hasn't killed me yet! I am a very phobic
person; this is not the only phobia I
have. I've been under psychiatic care
since I was 20; I am a very frightened
person; always obssessed with thoughts of
death and i'm terrified of dying! I'd
love to talk to people who are not afraid
of death. Actually, my biggest fear is
that of suffocation; I do not want to die
but as I said i'm 60 so i'd like to come
to terms with it someday. Anyone can
email me at everly@
earthlink.Net. Best of luck to all
of you; I can identify with nearly each
and every onf of you. For 40 years i've
lived with struggling to get a deep
breath; sometimes it's easy and sometimes
it's almost impossible. Any advce?
Love to you all!
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les
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-01-06 05:57am
Hi again,
I had a real bad episode of this
breathing obsession after xmas, it got so
bad that I went to the gp again, this time
he ordered a lot of tests. I had blood
tests, urine test, xray and ecg.
Everything came back normal with the
exception of a little bit too much iron in
my blood. Doc thinks that I may be eating
too much red meat. I've quit smoking a
couple of month ago which may have brought
on a slight depression. Also i've been
coughing heaps since quiting smoking which
is bringing on a lot of anxiety about the
health of my lungs, even if the doctor
says that there is nothing wrong with me.
Funny thing is that the obsessive
breathing issues have since subsided
considerably. I'm now obsessing over
coughing though. It is just really hard
to convince oneself that there is nothing
wrong.
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les
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-02-06 03:08am
Well, I jumped the gun and went for a
spirometry.
Suprisingly my results were above average.
My lung age came back as less then 20
years old. I think finally I can rest
easy.
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metaxu
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1
Posted: 02-03-06 17:27pm
I've had this problem for years and am
going through a particularly bad spell of
it. It used to get worse around my
period, and since menopause (i'm 54) i've
had it more often than not.
I too went for spirometry a couple of
years ago and after about the 4th test the
technician said, "get outa here!" -- my
results were off the charts good.
There's a lot more to say, but i'm glad I
found this thread!
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campingmom
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 6
Can't Take a Deep Breath Posted: 02-28-06 16:27pm
I didn't realize there were so many people
experiencing the same thing I have been
for about the past two years. All the
same symptoms that I have read......Not
being able to get a good deep breath,
yawning a lot with no relief, finding a
good sleeping position so that I can
breath deeply.
Because of my past experience with
anxiety/panic attacks, I do believe that
it is stress related, even though I don't
feel stressed out and am not taking any
kind of anxiety medication and haven't for
about 2 and a half years. When I took
myself off of ativan I started taking a
bcomplex vitamin daily because of the
affects I heard it would have on anxiety
sufferers. It seems to work, whether or
not it's in my head I don't know. But I
would much rather take it than the ativan.
Anyway, it has been reassuring to find
this site, to know that it's not just me
and it's not just in my head. The only
difference I have noticed from most of the
comments is that I feel more out of breath
when I eat.
Thank you for posting your comments, I
really appreciated reading them.
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AtlasCoughed
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 5
Re: Can't Take a Deep Breath Posted: 03-02-06 00:20am
Thank god for google. I've been having
this problem for a few months, but only
just today thought of typing "can't take a
deep breath" into google. I wound up
here. I'm so glad that i'm not a) alone,
b) crazy c) on my deathbed unknowingly.
I have all the same symptoms as others
here- inability to take a deep, satisfying
breath, difficulty yawning, having to
sleep on my right side. I went to a
chiropractor about it, and he guessed that
my ribs were misaligned, causing my
muscles to be too tight to allow a full
breath. Well, since my treatment there is
free i've been going back regularily. It
helps some, though not as much as i'd
like. I can often feel that my back is
"out", which inhibits the breathing some,
and an adjustment will often help-- it
just seems to take hours or even days to
kick in. At any rate...
I've also almost entirely eliminated
caffeine from my diet. This sadly
includes chocolate. I found that the
caffeine in coffee, tea or even a small
chunk of chocolate was often enough to get
my muscles, and thus my breathing,
tightened up. Oh, how I miss coffee. But
I do feel better without it. :?
I also have to agree that it is (at least
partially) a mental thing, at least in my
case. My first bout of this had me
freaking out in the e.R. My oxygen level
and lung capacity was fine, as was the
chest x-ray. I got told that I had a
virus and my body was just "freaking out."
really, it was my brain that was freaking
out. Now I take g.A.B.A. For the
apparent anxiety I feel, valerian
(occasionally) for muscle tension, and try
to chill out. It helps some.
I know this post is hugely long- sorry
about that- but i'll close with what seems
to help me the most. Laughter. Yeah,
it's corny. But it helps. I don't know
whether it's forcing me to breathe deeply
with my diaphram, or just upping my
endorphins or what- but after spending a
few hours with really funny people, I feel
great. Same goes with watching funny
tv/movies. See? Laughter really is the
best medicine. (/corn)
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yingsnyd
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 1 Location: PA
Relieved to Find This Posted: 03-04-06 01:03am
I too, have had this exact problem since I
was a young child, and am now 32. It
has always been somethingi've had trouble
explaining to others... Family and
friends would feel sorry for me but look
confused and doubtful. I'd say "i feel
like I have to yawn, but I can't," and
nobody got it. Thank god there are
actually people who get it. I agree-
thank god for google!
I have always wondered if this may have
been caused by exposure to second-hand
smoke. The first few times that I
remember it starting, I was in the
backseat of a car while my father was
smoking with the windows up all but a
crack, because it was the middle of
winter. I was always stressed and
worried about breathing in this smoke...
I wonder if it was this combination of
physical and mental factors for me.
I do have two cats... I actually think I
have had more episodes since we got them 3
years ago. There have been stretches of
several years where this didn't happen at
all.
I wonder if this is my body's way of
dealing with stress... I've always been a
fairly calm and go-with-the-flow type
person, but maybe this is where it's
surfacing. I don't know much about
panic/anxiety attacks. I'll have to
research those more.
When I have these episodes, they usually
last for several days. It is extremely
frustrating for me. I'm a teacher, and
when this is going on, trying to speak for
an extended time is very uncomfortable.
In the middle of a lesson, i'll actually
have to stop several times and change my
position, almost stretch out my chest,
until I catch my breath again. Usually
relaxing and changing my position helps.
Right now, I can tell i'm on the tail end
of this episode-- I am still thinking
about my breathing and worrying that I
won't be able to get that satisfying
breath, but then I am actually able to get
it within two or three tries. Does
anybody else experience this at the end of
it?
Thanks to all of you who shared your
similar stories, it really does help to
know you're not alone.
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AtlasCoughed
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 5
Posted: 03-04-06 14:02pm
I've wondered about both smoke and cats,
too. I am a smoker (bad, bad I know- i'm
aiming to quit this year), and we used to
smoke in the house. We've quit doing
that, now, but I don't know that it's
helped much. Also, though we have no
cats, my boyfriend's son has been having
vague allergic symptoms when over at our
house. He's really allergic to cats. I
am, too, but only mildly. It makes me
wonder if the previous renters in our apt.
Had cats and the dander, etc. Is ground
into the carpeting.
I totally know what you mean about
"knowing" when you'll be able to breathe
or not. My breathing mysteriously got
awesome a few days ago. I told my mom
that I could tell it was great because i'd
forget to be worried. This happened just
after a chiropractic adjustment, and after
spending 2 days at my mom's house (who is
a non-smoker and has no pets). Now that
i'm back home, the breathing is crappier.
Maybe environment is a bigger thing than
we thought?
I, too, have to "stretch out my chest" to
breathe well. Usually this happens when
i've been talking or doing something that
raises my heartrate. I usually put my
hands on my thighs, stick my butt out and
push down with my arms. It forces my
shoulder blades apart and seems to work
most of the time. Stretching in general
seems to help, but it's always hard to
tell if the "helping" is coming from some
other variable in my life.
I keep thinking- is there a common thread
between all of us? I don't expect
everyone to list terribly personal
information here, but if there's a
commonality between us, we might be able
to work out something to help us.
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Jay3ag
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1
Posted: 03-08-06 01:20am
Yes, finally people who have this same
problem.
Im also very happy to have found this
site. I have the same stuff going on, im
21 and this is happening for the first
time in my life, 3rd day straight, but all
day long.
Hold my mouth open for a while trying to
get a deep breath seemingly stuck in a
permanent yawn thatll never finish.
Always taking shallow breaths with a
strange desire to take a huge lungful of
fresh air.
Ive smoked cannabis for years and since I
thought this was going to kill me ive
stopped, but thank god you guys make me
feel a lot better about whats going on.
Im convinced to try that saltpipe and
wonder if anyone else has.
I live by the beach in a non-industrial
city - santa cruz, ca. And some of it
does seem to be in my head, oddly enough,
when at work and having tons of stuff to
do and occupy me, im fine and it doesnt
even happen, first time I notice it, the
next 4 hours are occupied with me worrying
about it and trying to take that deep
breath :(
like others I cant contribute much to this
problem but its a great relief to know it
isnt just me afterall. Good luck to us
all and I really hope this problem is
figured out someday, like you all said,
its extremely frustarating, and
frightening.
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pixie000
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Florida
Looking For a Deep Breath Posted: 03-12-06 07:41am
I don't know if this will help some of
you- I hope so. I suffered from this
inability to take a deep breath for many,
many years. It would come and go.
Sometimes last for hours, sometimes for
days.
My latest doctor (bless him) thought I
had an anxiety disorder and started me on
anti-anxiety medication. That ended the
problem for good. If I do get short
breathed with my current medication, I
take a 2.5 mg tab of alprazolam and i'm ok
in about 15 minutes.
Susan in florida
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webtrance
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2
Same Issues, New Twist Posted: 03-13-06 17:12pm
Alright, here we go. I have the same
breathing issues, yawning, half breaths,
and other symptoms many of you do. I'll
get to the twist in a moment...
I'm 40, married, 1 kid. I'm
temporarally separated from my wife
working this job..Until we can figure out
what to do with our life back home and be
together again. I lead a professional
life, retired military, and now a civilian
working in homeland defense area. I
manage airspace issues for the dept. Of
defense and liaison with the faa,
coordinate exercises, and manage only one
person in the office. I travel often and
have a fear of flying, although I deal
with it. I'm also an x-air traffic
controller of 20 years. I was a gymnast
in high school and still have left over
muscles from that era. I'm probably
about 20lbs overweight although look okay
still, drink coffee, dip skoal, drink
nothing by diet coke, and never exercise.
That probably says it all. I'm probably
over anxious and worry about the future as
well.
The twist. I have problems sleeping just
in the past week or two. I cannot turn
on my side anymore because I can hear my
heart seemingly "pounding" and feeling
like i'm not breathing correctly. If I
happen to slightly drift to sleep, I may
catch myself not breathing and suddenly
jump to my feet, reassuring myself i'm
okay. What the heck is going on? I
took 3 tylenol pms which had no effect the
other night. I fell asleep around 3am.
The part that bothers me the most is the
beating of my heart and the fact that it's
noticable...It never was before. My
blood pressure is normal. I have not
seen a doctor yet, but plan to this
week.
I still somehow manage to lead my
professional life and not freak out. I
actually feel better just writing about
this. I can't help believing that most
of us should probably change our
lifestyles, in terms of dieting and
exercise. We must loose the diet coke,
caffeine, smoking and chewing too. I'm
at the point where I have to rearrange my
whole life drastically. You can surely
understand at my age, I cannot ward off
the offensive chemicals i'm putting in my
body, like I probably could between 20-30
yrs old. I'll let you know what the
doctor says.
I wish you all a healthy life and hope we
can all breath a little easier! :)
webtrance
ps, I also sit around a lot and play
unreal tournament and work with graphics.
(key word "sit" ...Allot of sitting all
day) http://webtrance.Deviantart.Com
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James1180
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Location: New Zealand
Posted: 03-16-06 08:48am
Man, I thought it was just me! I really
thought I was going crazy, going to die
etc.
I am 26 and I have had virtually the same
syptoms as all of the other posts on here
for the best part of a year. I am also
prone to anxiety, especially where death
is concerned. It got so bad tonight I
googled "cannot yawn" and got this site,
it is reassuring when 60 year olds say
they had this for years and are still
kicking on-thank you! The other day my
breathing was so bad I called an
ambulance, they checked me over at the
hospital-apparantly I couldn't be
healthier. My doc diagnosed asthma but I
don't think it is, the symptoms just don't
jive. This just seems to be a mystery to
the medical world right now, so I have to
ask-what the heck is it? Does anyone
elses friends/partners just not understand
how serious it feels when you can't get a
decent breath anymore? It seriously
freaks me out sometimes. I find air
conditioning makes it worse and night time
is never easy anymore, wondering if I will
get an attack.
Anyway, it's so good to know I don't have
some illness that belongs to me alone-now
I belong to a club! Probably a club not
many want to join though....