Hello All,
Grapes, I have come to the conclusion that it IS related to breathing pattern disorder, AND to my acid relux in that the PPI I was on since early April exacerbated my problem terribly. I began weaning off it two weeks ago and have slowly been set free from the severe breathing problems I was having. I expect it to get better as the drug continues to leave my system. As far as the breathing pattern disorder, I have hyperventilated for 7 years due to anxiety/stress, and because of it I need to relearn to breath properly, from the diaphragm and not from the chest. I have been doing the retraining for a couple weeks now, and it seems to help. The information is from a man named Michael G White. 10-15% of the population hyperventilate, and the most telling sign is alot of yawning/sighing (which I read alot about on here). Otherwise, alot of people aren't even aware they are doing it. So many people aren't even aware that they are holding their abdomen and shoulder muscles very tight all the time. It's a stress response and leads to hyperventilating, which causes our fight or flight response to become overactivated. It's a vicious cycle, but fortunately can be stopped with things like first of all just being aware of the need to slow down your life. You don't need drugs to "reset" the body though. Low/slow breathing done on a daily basis (I do a half hour a day) can calm and reset your nervous system, removing the stress reponse (hyperventilating). Sorry if I've been rambling, and I hope this all makes sense. Please let me know if I can answer any questions.

GMichael,
I agree with your opinoin that yours is related to stress. I'm sorry to hear off all your health problems. I know that if you, and all of us here, slow down and calm down our nervous systems we can overcome this problem. I am in complete agreement with taking supplements like you do. A B complex (B's need to be taken together) is critical to all today, and I can't recommend highly enough using real sea salt, not table salt. It has 80 some minerals that all our bodies are lacking, and they are in the correct balance that our bodies need. I am a nutritionist, so this is my area. I haven't checked out your posts yet Timeisshort, but I have a feeling we are like-minded. I just turned my powder room into a sauna, and have heard amazing things about coffee enemas (sorry so gross), and am going to begin doing today. For loads of GREAT natural health information check out Dr. J Mercola.
Optimal health and breathing to all!

Grapes and Meglaws,
While researching breathing pattern disorder I came across the problem of a stuffy nose. They said that was due to overbreathing. There is a breathing retraining program called Buteynko (sp?) and they address how to fix this. I am not using this particular method, it's geared more towards asthmatics, but still can be used for hyperventilators . Please research this on the net as I know it will help you.

Hello Gomogo and All,
Nice to here from you. Thank you for your information. Today i went back to my doctors after so many years and explained everything to her. She did an oxegen level test, asthma test and listened to me explain all my breathing symtons. She gave me a spray for my nose, which i was happy to use because she said it was quite congested. She definately said that my symtons were that of hyperventilation syndrome. (She is one of these doctors that listens and also sends you for any test if she thinks it necessary). I was happy just to be reassured after all these years. She is actually going to treat me for my menapause which after listening to me, thought i sounded depressed. eg, maybe HRT, if i want. (will think about that, need a bone density scan first, which she is sending me to do). As for the hyperventilation problem, it is good to know that because we don't breath to rapidly but just too deeply or thoratic breathing,it doesn't effect our oxgen levels. i think thats why we cope with it!!! Anyway, i agree with you Gomogo, i am going to start doing breathing excersises (which admit, haven't bothered yet) along with my daily keep fit plan (rowing/bike/light weights, which really relax me a lot). I will look up those sights you mentioned And Timeishort, i will keep looking through your posts too, please don't be offended by my short staement the other day. i wish you all well, it's nice that we are coming to terms with what we have and trying to help each other. i will let you know my progress and hope very much to hear from you all and how you are getting on.

PS,
my doctor did say that learning to relax again was very good for the breathing problem and she was willing to help me. I am going to try and do this on my own, with the breathing exersises, nutrition, keeping fit and trying not to think about it!!! because i strongly believe it is CRONIC HYPERVENTILATION SYMDRON. Knowing what we have is half the cure. And there is a cure for this, i have been cured once!! We will all be ok!!

OMG, IS that what it is ?? Can we be cured ? Who do we see ???
Im so unhappy.

Geoffrey

Geoffrey,
why don't you go and see someone who understands hyperventilation, like a trained physiotherapist who specialises in this area, there are some that do,thay may be able to help you retrain your brearthig. The most difficult thing about this problem we have, is that the cure is within us. That is of course very frustrating. I know you have other health issues, which you are controlling, but you say that you have been told that your heart and lungs are ok, that's great! I was told by my doctor and i have done some reading too, that breathing problems only occur if there is something wrong with your heart or lungs, othewrwise it is anxeity. Knowing what you have, is half the CURE! Everything your doing for your health is great!! Remember what i said in my first post (page 16) how ill i was with my ulcer, and that after that i got this breathing problem. When i started to feel well again less stressed and happy, the breathing problems went away. I know you have the other health problems but this breathing issue is caused by all these other problems because thay are upsetting and make us feel ill.
Hope i am making sense.

Hey to all friends (emphasis on all, everyone), Gomogo2000, thanks for reconfirming some of what i say. i get so frustrated with the situation of nutrition & it has been the only way i have been able to gain repair in my health, my heart is broken for people that i know this can help but won't give it a chance, like my sick family members who don't believe me & don't wan't to have anything to do with any of it, they believe they can consume anything at all without consequences & food causes no ill health, most people just want a quick fix & aren't prepared to put there own efforts into better health.
Grapes,I'm not offended my response to you was of unbelief of what seemed to be uneducated arrogance but maybe i was wrong to respond that way.
For any one who wants to know click on my "behind 8 ball" picture & select posts & all my comments are there (approx 360 of them at last check) but most are relative to what i have indicated in this topic, if anyone wants any help to research this for yourselves, send me a message found on that same page & i will be glad to help where i can, some of the posts have suggested site searches etc which may not be successful if so let me know & i will find you the appropriate search areas etc.
God bless to all!

Timeisshort,
i will be looking through your posts because i feel you have a lot of passion in what you believe in, and thats great!! I also too believe that nutrition is very important to our health and well being, i always have done.
P.S about breathing problems: forgot to say, of course allergies causes breathing problems too.

Hi there,

This has been troubling me of late and I know it's probably has been covered many times on this board but I was wondering if I could get some help off someone.

Recently, I have had this really uncomfortable feeling, off and on, throughout the day where my chest is tight. It bothers me alot and it has induced almost full-blown panic attacks before I manage to calm myself down. I am a guy of a healthy weight (85kgs) and 25 years old, and a social smoker. I occasionally had times when I'd wake up having the same tightness and feeling of breathlessness before now (mostly when I wake up from it in bed). I'll admit that due to some circumstances I have come under alot of stress recently and from absolutely knowhere have developed a mild case of hypocondria and obession with looking up symptoms online (hence why I'm here today!)... With these factors in mind, is it fair to say that my symptoms are stress related? I can take deep breaths most of the time but I found I do the yawning thing alot if I start getting on edge about the phantom weight on my lungs!

Is xanax or something similar the only option? I really hate it and I feel I can't operate 100% day-to-day with it occuring or in the back of my mind.

Cheers

,Uk In oz,
I expect you have read most of our posts on here. Again, i can only give you advice through my own experiences. I have been regularily posting on here because i have been there!! I think you definately sound like you are suffering from anxeity. When i was 27 i had all the panic attacks and the breathing problems together. Lucily this time round it's just the breathing, because i understand more what it. I have never taken any medication for it because i hate taking medicines. The only way i think to rid this problem is to:
1) see a doctor to confirm that it's anxeity/stress
2) accept it
3) try and find a way of relaxing, that you enjoy
4) physical excersise is supposed to be the best way of relieaving anxeity.
I also think that part of anxiety is thinking there is something wrong with us, so we keep looking up symtons. When i was younger i had a medical book; I could of had every illness in there!!! I through it away!!! Of course, we have the internet now. However, the internet is great for helping us look up things and try to understand more about what ever we have.
The best way of course, to be cured of anxeity is to be completly occupied in something that you enjoy which doesn't cause you stress. I still believe that stress related symtons always happen after the intial stress, then it becomes an obsession and a habit, and our bodies are in stress mode. It's breaking the cycle, that is the difficult part. I keep saying the same thing, knowing what we have is half the cure, the other half is within us.
Hope this helps a little. It sounds like you are unhappy and consintrating on how your body is reacting. It is horrible, i know, hope you find a solution other then medication. For me the only solution is to forget about it and get on with my life, easier said then done!

sorry about spelling! will try and read through my writing next time!

uk in oz, i assume that means you are hear in australia?
stress, i believe through what i've experienced & learned about it is brought on by a chemical in balance & i have fix the problem & many others are on the mend, but this has happened through learning the symptoms associated with the deficiency & then supplementing with the nutrients associated with the deficiency.
i am here to be off help if anyone is willing to learn!

Timeisshort,
I am willing to learn, Help me !!! I dont want to live anymore !!
Im so not exagerating, I want my life back and I need this to go away !!

Help

Geoffrey

Geoffrey,
this will go away, it takes time! Please get some more help.

Dont worry about this try doing bit of exercise daily it would be better if you can do yoga early in the morning outside in fresh air do it for a month and i gurantee you will feel the change.....just try it....

Grapes,
I will do anything, what kind of help ? Im seeing a therapist and she stakes her education and training on the fact that it will go away, its still here. I try to be positive, I try to ignore it, I exercise, try to take my mind off of it, pray, help others,...I will do anything, anything, anything, I no I need patience but all these thoughts are popping into my head and..its my busy time at work and I know money isnt everything but Im losing out on so many opportunities to help my Mom and myself financialy,I just cant go on.....

I cant believe it, but , my life was awesome the day before this happened, new home, truck paid off, new furiture, great job......I start sobbing thinking about it....

Geoffrey

I still believe that stress related symtons always happen after the intial stress, then it becomes an obsession and a habit, and our bodies are in stress mode. It's breaking the cycle, that is the difficult part.

Hello Grapes, Geoffrey, timeishshort and Oz,and all,
Grapes said a mouthful with the above quote. Sometimes I wish I could just be put in a coma so my body could relax and reset itself and be done with this. Except that I know that when you're sleeping, depending on how tense you are, you probably can't completely relax and you can wake up with a worse problem. I have experienced that. I hope all the recent posts are helping people, but I'm going to condense it all into one LONG post. As far as nutrition, the first and simplest thing to do is REMOVE ALL SUGAR FROM YOUR DIET, esp. fake sugars. REMOVE ALL TABLE SALT. Next, REMOVE ALL PROCESSED FOODS. Also, ONLY BUY ORGANIC FOODS. Part of the defniition of organic produce means it is not GMO (genetically modified organism (ie cancer causing)). ONLY DRINK SPRING WATER, preferably Evian or Fuji or the like. You would not beleive the evils of city water. Too many problems to list right now. lastly, ONLY EAT ORGANIC FREE-RANGE GRASS FED MEATS AND EGGS. These six rules will remove most chemicals from your diet and help ensure getting vitamins, minerals, and enzymes. If you have ANY GI problems you should eliminate all wheat from your diet (all gluten) for a month and then reintroduce to see if you experience symptoms. If you do, avoid all gluten. This is critical for restoring your health. Only eat foods in the natural state that God created them. Also, eat foods as close to raw as possible to get much needed enzymes and optimum nutrition. Supplement with good fish oil, Vit D, Celtic sea salt (and lots of it), and multimineral and vitamin. As far as oils, only use exta virgin olive oil, virgin coconut oil, palm oil, avocado, and nut oils. AVOID canola, corn, safflower, etc. They are full of solvents and other horrible chemicals and are rancid before you even get them home. Every day eat lots of raw organic nuts and nut butters. Only get all these at a GOOD health food store. Also, stop wearing sunscreen so that your body can actually absorb the sunshine and produce Vit D. You need 20 minutes of day min. exposure. Remember, the sun is actually our friend, not our enemy, the big lie we've all been told. The chemicals in sunscreen, now that's our enemy. Whole food supplements are best. I can't stress enough how important these all are for ALL health problems we experience. Over time you will notice your health improving little by little. Also if you follow these rules you will lose weight. I'm living proof of that. Here are a couple resources to check on the internet, Dr. Joseph Mercola and Dr. Mark Hyman. THESE ARE EXCELLENT DOCTORS. Please guys, do the research. You won't go wrong.
Now, as far as the breathing retraining, please check out Michael White's website. I have posted this information in pieces a few times, so please listen and begin restoring your health. Geoffrey, I believe you are so desperate because of hyperventilating and chest breathing. When I do that I can't stand it and go into panic mode. So I understand how scared you are. Do you find yourself yawning/sighing alot? Then you are a hyperventilator. I apologize in advance for this, please pay attention to what we are all saying because I'm pretty sure this is what you need to help you. I'm not repeating this long post again. I wonder if you've read any of my previous posts addressing this. As I stated before, I have been on disability for six months, so I'm not saying it's easy to cure. But I only figured out the whole problem the last couple of months. I have an obsessive mind so I believe that's why i continue to perpetuate my problem as I subconsciously focus on it. Grapes is exactly right, we need diversions to beat this thing. I bought a new car on Friday, and having a gas driving it, plus I went to a Navy air show Saturday. I woke up this morning feeling better than I have in a long time. BUT, breathing retraining is critical, so please check out that website. One last thing, I've seen two recent lists listing the top 10 causes of stress. Both listed electromagnetic waves as #2. Sorry to say but that comes from computers, particulary WiFi, and then all the cell phone towers that are EVERYWHERE, and, really badly, using your cell phone without an ear piece. One important thing to do is to remove your radio/alarm clock from next to your bed/head. it should be three feet away, so I put mine on my dresser. oops, one more last thing. Detoxoing with a Near infrared sauna is critical to getting all the built up toxins that are deep in your muslces. I made my own and converted my small bathroom into one for under $100. A very important thing to do also is to have your silver fillings removed, but that is a tricky subject and can be learned more about on the internet.
If you have any questions, please post and i will answer. Sometimes I'm alittle slow, but I will get to it.
My best to all!

Gomogo,
Your post was fantastic, will be writing later, when i am quiet at work

Gomogo & Geoffrey,
Gomogo thank you for your post and for agreeing with me. Everything you wrote on there is true, the well balanced diet, the breath retraining and occuping your mind, ext...
Geoffrey, everything your doing is great! i really keep posting on here because i am worried about you. please believe, Gomogo, me and the others who have said that this is an anxeity type problem... Please, maybe read through our posts again to recap. The other thing i can say about this problem; is how i think the subconscious mind is incredibly clever!! Even though you may not think you are thinking about it, you probably are. This is because you have become so frightened of it, that it is there in the subconscious mind. i am purely speaking through experience and i understand a little bit about physiology. i don't know how to help you apart from stressing what i think is the cause and cure for this breathing problem. In the last two weeks i have not been thinking about the breathing problem as much and have been relaxed, when i say relaxed, i mean mentally and physically!! My breathing is almost back to normal again, it is almost gone! The only issues i have with it is in the evenings, when i come to relax. Geoffrey, read everything you can on hyperventilation. This will not go over night because, it is an anxeity issuse, which will take time to heal. Think about what you are doing when you have the breathing problem; are your shoulders tensed up, are you subconscouisly thinking about it, ext. I haved noticed how very tense my upper body is and my arms. This is probably the most difficult anxiety issues there is, because we don't understand it fully ourselves. I do however, understand it now, i didn't 12 years ago. I will keep posting on here to help, if i can. Please write Geoffrey and say how you feel about all this.