Is the zygote, embryo, fetus a human being from conception
Yes
Yes but it is not a person
No, it becomes a human being at a certain point durring pregnancy
No, not until birth
45%
[ 10 ]
9%
[ 2 ]
13%
[ 3 ]
31%
[ 7 ]
Total Votes : 22
Q: Human Being?
asked by:Izzy on December 15th, 2004
Active User, very eHealthy
I want know where you stand.
I have voted... Yes!
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Replies(89)
Izzy
replied on December 17th, 2004
Active User, very eHealthy
Thank you all of you who have voted thus far. Seems the pro life community is rather quiet on this one....
Who ever voted yes but is not a person I respect there honesty... I would presume this is steen.... Since he claims to be a dr
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
:d
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Why does it matter? Personhood is a moot issue!!! I wish there was a way that the zef could grow outside the mother but as far as I know, there isn't and the only way to end the pregnancy is destruction of it. But nevertheless pregnancy does cause more harm than good to a persons body and you can't look at your saggy boobs and stretch marks and tell me it does your body any good because it doesn't and the law is supposed to protect it's born people, individuals and the zef is not covered by that protection. For some people pregnancy itself can cause liver failure and have you ever heard of gestational diabetes and preeclampsia? They can be deadly and childbirth is not a cureall for it.
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
bd1012 wrote:
why does it matter? Personhood is a moot issue!!! I wish there was a way that the zef could grow outside the mother but as far as I know, there isn't and the only way to end the pregnancy is destruction of it. But nevertheless pregnancy does cause more harm than good to a persons body and you can't look at your saggy boobs and stretch marks and tell me it does your body any good because it doesn't and the law is supposed to protect it's born people, individuals and the zef is not covered by that protection. For some people pregnancy itself can cause liver failure and have you ever heard of gestational diabetes and preeclampsia? They can be deadly and childbirth is not a cureall for it.
ok so no one ever get preggo again and we can just end the human race.... Ya smart bd.
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Actually I do want to end the human race but that is something in the back of my mind and won't enforce it upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I am trying to say here is that if people can handle pregnancy and love it.. Wonderful for them.. I am happy for them.. There are times I want to pregnant.. (hanging around too many preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me.. Lol) but people should not be forced to be pregnant because it could harm you.. Not saying no one should. Take smoking for example.. If someone wants to smoke and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them but because of that risk of lung cancer should someone be forced to do it? I am not trying to be rude.. I am just explaining my view here. Do you understand where I am coming from?
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Izzy
replied on December 17th, 2004
Active User, very eHealthy
Deleted
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
bd1012 wrote:
actually I do want to end the human race but that is something in the back of my mind and won't enforce it upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I am trying to say here is that if people can handle pregnancy and love it.. Wonderful for them.. I am happy for them.. There are times I want to pregnant.. (hanging around too many preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me.. Lol) but people should not be forced to be pregnant because it could harm you.. Not saying no one should. Take smoking for example.. If someone wants to smoke and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them but because of that risk of lung cancer should someone be forced to do it? I am not trying to be rude.. I am just explaining my view here. Do you understand where I am coming from?
you want to end the human race?????? Bd I think u need more help than u realize, you are one sick little puppy.
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
lil_blaze2004 wrote:
bd1012 wrote:
actually I do want to end the human race but that is something in the back of my mind and won't enforce it upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I am trying to say here is that if people can handle pregnancy and love it.. Wonderful for them.. I am happy for them.. There are times I want to pregnant.. (hanging around too many preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me.. Lol) but people should not be forced to be pregnant because it could harm you.. Not saying no one should. Take smoking for example.. If someone wants to smoke and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them but because of that risk of lung cancer should someone be forced to do it? I am not trying to be rude.. I am just explaining my view here. Do you understand where I am coming from?
you want to end the human race?????? Bd I think u need more help than u realize, you are one sick little puppy.
hey.. I said that was in the back of my mind, not something I think about everyday..It's hard to explain.. Btw.. Is that all your going to respond to? I tried to present a debate here and all you do is take the one sentence that you can use for an insult! I was really calm in writing that and trying to discuss something with you and all you do is take a sentence and insult me with it? Your useless... I will no longer even bother with you anymore.. You disgust me.. Complain about insults yet you don't want a debate.
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
bd1012 wrote:
lil_blaze2004 wrote:
bd1012 wrote:
actually I do want to end the human race but that is something in the back of my mind and won't enforce it upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I am trying to say here is that if people can handle pregnancy and love it.. Wonderful for them.. I am happy for them.. There are times I want to pregnant.. (hanging around too many preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me.. Lol) but people should not be forced to be pregnant because it could harm you.. Not saying no one should. Take smoking for example.. If someone wants to smoke and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them but because of that risk of lung cancer should someone be forced to do it? I am not trying to be rude.. I am just explaining my view here. Do you understand where I am coming from?
you want to end the human race?????? Bd I think u need more help than u realize, you are one sick little puppy.
hey.. I said that was in the back of my mind, not something I think about everyday..It's hard to explain.. Btw.. Is that all your going to respond to? I tried to present a debate here and all you do is take the one sentence that you can use for an insult! I was really calm in writing that and trying to discuss something with you and all you do is take a sentence and insult me with it? Your useless... I will no longer even bother with you anymore.. You disgust me.. Complain about insults yet you don't want a debate.
know what I have no symapthy for u. You talk about being on meds and stuff well guess what???? I've been on paxil for 6 years. I don't have thoughts like yours. I don't think i'm crazy. You are an 18 year old child not an adult. So untill u learn to act like an adult. Go back to the teen forum.
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Don't you dare tell me where to go.. I was here first and no newbie tells me what to do! How many times do I have to tell you this.. Here.. I will try again.. Read my post above and tell me where I was rude to you! I was not in that post.. I wanted to stop insulting and debate and you didn't want to.. So f you, you go back to where you belong.. You don't march in here and try to kick me out!
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Btw.. I can't consciously (sp?) control my thoughts and feelings.. I feel what I feel and I can't help that. If people could do that.. There would be no need for paxil and prozac so stop being so judgmental.. I can't control how I feel about anything.. I wish I could so you are insulting me for something beyond my control!
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
bd1012 wrote:
btw.. I can't consciously (sp?) control my thoughts and feelings.. I feel what I feel and I can't help that. If people could do that.. There would be no need for paxil and prozac so stop being so judgmental.. I can't control how I feel about anything.. I wish I could so you are insulting me for something beyond my control!
ok know what bd--let's stop this alright sweetie pie???? I am preggo and you are not even ttc so let's just stop this. We never had any probs before this forum so lets go back to that.... :hugs:
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
I'd love to but I offered already and you declined.Sorry. I offered to be civil but you just resorted to insults.. How bout we just leave each other be for good.
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lil_blaze2004
replied on December 17th, 2004
Supporter
bd1012 wrote:
i'd love to but I offered already and you declined.Sorry. I offered to be civil but you just resorted to insults.. How bout we just leave each other be for good.
u didn't offer but whatever.... I'll stick to my apology.
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oopoopoop
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Can we leave the aggressive pseudo-diagnoses please? It's getting pathetic.
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Why don't you all just stick to what we're talking about here and mind your business about my mental health.. It's none of your concern and stop trying to tell me to seek help. If all you want to do is take things that I tell you and insult me with it.. Than go back to grade school.
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where_is_the_line
replied on December 17th, 2004
Experienced User
If you have a desire to end the human race (in the back of your mind) then that is part of where you are coming from. Maybe we all can't understand what that is like.
I don't think comparing choosing to smoke (which is always detrimental) to being pregnant (not detrimental for the majority of cases) is not a very good analogy.
Being "forced" to smoke (which always causes damage) as opposed to being "forced" to carry a human being to term so they can continue to live is fairly different.
So are you coming from the point of view that it doesn't matter whether we are killing human beings/persons/whatever so long as the woman has the protected "right" to c-h-o-o-s-e to kill her offspring prior to birth? And this principle is justified by possible bad scenarios that may occur?
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bd1012
replied on December 17th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
Yep.
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steen
replied on December 18th, 2004
Extremely eHealthy
lil_blaze2004 wrote:
abortion
my hair is black, my eyes are brown....
keeping on posting the same stuff over and over again is known as spamming.