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Izzy
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Human Being?
Posted: 12-15-04 09:46am
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I want know where you stand.
I have voted... Yes!
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Izzy
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Posted: 12-17-04 12:11pm
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Thank you all of you who have voted thus
far. Seems the pro life community is
rather quiet on this one....
Who ever voted yes but is not a person I
respect there honesty... I would presume
this is steen.... Since he claims to be a
dr
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 12:14pm
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 12:42pm
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Why does it matter? Personhood is a moot
issue!!! I wish there was a way that the
zef could grow outside the mother but as
far as I know, there isn't and the only
way to end the pregnancy is destruction of
it. But nevertheless pregnancy does
cause more harm than good to a persons
body and you can't look at your saggy
boobs and stretch marks and tell me it
does your body any good because it doesn't
and the law is supposed to protect it's
born people, individuals and the zef is
not covered by that protection. For some
people pregnancy itself can cause liver
failure and have you ever heard of
gestational diabetes and preeclampsia?
They can be deadly and childbirth is not a
cureall for it.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 12:51pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | why does it matter?
Personhood is a moot issue!!! I wish
there was a way that the zef could grow
outside the mother but as far as I know,
there isn't and the only way to end the
pregnancy is destruction of it. But
nevertheless pregnancy does cause more
harm than good to a persons body and you
can't look at your saggy boobs and stretch
marks and tell me it does your body any
good because it doesn't and the law is
supposed to protect it's born people,
individuals and the zef is not covered by
that protection. For some people
pregnancy itself can cause liver failure
and have you ever heard of gestational
diabetes and preeclampsia? They can be
deadly and childbirth is not a cureall for
it. |
ok so no one ever get preggo again and we
can just end the human race.... Ya smart
bd.
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 12:55pm
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Actually I do want to end the human race
but that is something in the back of my
mind and won't enforce it upon anyone..
Look lilblaze.. What I am trying to say
here is that if people can handle
pregnancy and love it.. Wonderful for
them.. I am happy for them.. There are
times I want to pregnant.. (hanging
around too many preggo sites.. It's
rubbing off on me.. Lol) but people
should not be forced to be pregnant
because it could harm you.. Not saying no
one should. Take smoking for example..
If someone wants to smoke and risk lung
cancer.. Fine for them but because of
that risk of lung cancer should someone be
forced to do it? I am not trying to be
rude.. I am just explaining my view here.
Do you understand where I am coming
from?
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Izzy
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:03pm
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:09pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | actually I do want to end
the human race but that is something in
the back of my mind and won't enforce it
upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I
am trying to say here is that if people
can handle pregnancy and love it..
Wonderful for them.. I am happy for
them.. There are times I want to
pregnant.. (hanging around too many
preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me..
Lol) but people should not be forced to
be pregnant because it could harm you..
Not saying no one should. Take smoking
for example.. If someone wants to smoke
and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them but
because of that risk of lung cancer should
someone be forced to do it? I am not
trying to be rude.. I am just explaining
my view here. Do you understand where I
am coming
from? |
you want to end the human race?????? Bd
I think u need more help than u realize,
you are one sick little puppy.
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:12pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | actually I do want to end
the human race but that is something in
the back of my mind and won't enforce it
upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What I
am trying to say here is that if people
can handle pregnancy and love it..
Wonderful for them.. I am happy for
them.. There are times I want to
pregnant.. (hanging around too many
preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on me..
Lol) but people should not be forced to
be pregnant because it could harm you..
Not saying no one should. Take smoking
for example.. If someone wants to smoke
and risk lung cancer.. Fine for them
but because of that risk of lung cancer
should someone be forced to do it? I
am not trying to be rude.. I am just
explaining my view here. Do you
understand where I am coming
from? |
you want to end the human race?????? Bd
I think u need more help than u realize,
you are one sick little
puppy. |
hey.. I said that was in the back of my
mind, not something I think about
everyday..It's hard to explain.. Btw..
Is that all your going to respond to? I
tried to present a debate here and all you
do is take the one sentence that you can
use for an insult! I was really calm in
writing that and trying to discuss
something with you and all you do is take
a sentence and insult me with it? Your
useless... I will no longer even bother
with you anymore.. You disgust me..
Complain about insults yet you don't want
a debate.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:15pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | actually I do want to end
the human race but that is something in
the back of my mind and won't enforce it
upon anyone.. Look lilblaze.. What
I am trying to say here is that if people
can handle pregnancy and love it..
Wonderful for them.. I am happy for
them.. There are times I want to
pregnant.. (hanging around too many
preggo sites.. It's rubbing off on
me.. Lol) but people should not be
forced to be pregnant because it could
harm you.. Not saying no one should.
Take smoking for example.. If
someone wants to smoke and risk lung
cancer.. Fine for them but because of
that risk of lung cancer should someone be
forced to do it? I am not trying to
be rude.. I am just explaining my view
here. Do you understand where I am
coming from? |
you want to end the human race??????
Bd I think u need more help than u
realize, you are one sick little
puppy. |
hey.. I said that was in the back of my
mind, not something I think about
everyday..It's hard to explain.. Btw..
Is that all your going to respond to? I
tried to present a debate here and all you
do is take the one sentence that you can
use for an insult! I was really calm in
writing that and trying to discuss
something with you and all you do is take
a sentence and insult me with it? Your
useless... I will no longer even bother
with you anymore.. You disgust me..
Complain about insults yet you don't want
a debate. |
know what I have no symapthy for u. You
talk about being on meds and stuff well
guess what???? I've been on paxil for 6
years. I don't have thoughts like yours.
I don't think i'm crazy. You are an 18
year old child not an adult. So untill u
learn to act like an adult. Go back to
the teen forum.
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:22pm
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Don't you dare tell me where to go.. I
was here first and no newbie tells me what
to do! How many times do I have to tell
you this.. Here.. I will try again..
Read my post above and tell me where I was
rude to you! I was not in that post.. I
wanted to stop insulting and debate and
you didn't want to.. So f you, you go
back to where you belong.. You don't
march in here and try to kick me out!
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:24pm
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Btw.. I can't consciously (sp?) control
my thoughts and feelings.. I feel what I
feel and I can't help that. If people
could do that.. There would be no need
for paxil and prozac so stop being so
judgmental.. I can't control how I feel
about anything.. I wish I could so you
are insulting me for something beyond my
control!
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:54pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | btw.. I can't consciously
(sp?) control my thoughts and feelings..
I feel what I feel and I can't help that.
If people could do that.. There would
be no need for paxil and prozac so stop
being so judgmental.. I can't control
how I feel about anything.. I wish I
could so you are insulting me for
something beyond my
control! |
ok know what bd--let's stop this alright
sweetie pie???? I am preggo and you are
not even ttc so let's just stop this. We
never had any probs before this forum so
lets go back to that....  :hugs:
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 13:59pm
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I'd love to but I offered already and you
declined.Sorry. I offered to be civil but
you just resorted to insults.. How bout
we just leave each other be for good.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 12-17-04 14:08pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | i'd love to but I offered
already and you declined.Sorry. I
offered to be civil but you just resorted
to insults.. How bout we just leave each
other be for
good. |
u didn't offer but whatever.... I'll
stick to my apology.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 12-17-04 14:52pm
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Can we leave the aggressive
pseudo-diagnoses please? It's getting
pathetic.
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bd1012
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Posted: 12-17-04 15:07pm
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Why don't you all just stick to what we're
talking about here and mind your business
about my mental health.. It's none of
your concern and stop trying to tell me to
seek help. If all you want to do is take
things that I tell you and insult me with
it.. Than go back to grade school.
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where_is_the_line
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Posted: 12-17-04 17:37pm
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If you have a desire to end the human race
(in the back of your mind) then that is
part of where you are coming from. Maybe
we all can't understand what that is
like.
I don't think comparing choosing to smoke
(which is always detrimental) to being
pregnant (not detrimental for the majority
of cases) is not a very good analogy.
Being "forced" to smoke (which always
causes damage) as opposed to being
"forced" to carry a human being to term so
they can continue to live is fairly
different.
So are you coming from the point of view
that it doesn't matter whether we are
killing human beings/persons/whatever so
long as the woman has the protected
"right" to c-h-o-o-s-e to kill her
offspring prior to birth? And this
principle is justified by possible bad
scenarios that may occur?
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bd1012
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steen
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Posted: 12-18-04 17:10pm
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my hair is black, my eyes are
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