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Q: Nothing to Prove
asked by: bd1012 on December 12th, 2004
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Why do prolifers think they need to prove fetal pain to us or that the fetus is a person? These are moot issues.. I don't care if the pope is in my body.. If I want him out.. He's out.. Whether he feels pain or not isn't what determines whether or not I have the right to evacuate him.. You have nothing to prove... Nothing at all.. The only thing you can do is invent some way that the zef can be incubated outside a womans uterus.. That's it.. Until then.. Nothing you can "prove" to us matters.
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Moira
replied on December 12th, 2004
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They don't want to prove anything. They want to repeat lies. Although some of the poor things don't know that they're lying...
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sandyallen
replied on December 12th, 2004
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Moira
I totally agree with what you said. And even if it were true, I would rather have the pain of an embryo being aborted than have the pain of being born into this world where I would be unwanted, being abused and neglected.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
replied on December 12th, 2004
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Re: Moira
sandyallen wrote:
i totally agree with what you said. And even if it were true, I would rather have the pain of an embryo being aborted than have the pain of being born into this world where I would be unwanted, being abused and neglected.
Sincerely,
sandy
the funny thing is that the pro-lifers think we are debating abortion, when in reality we are discussing their misperceptions or lies. None of what we are discussing actually has a bearing on abortion, as the only question with bearing on abortion is the degree of right the woman has to control her own body. Either it is there as roe vs wade ruled, or it is not, her being a second-class citizen. That is the only salient point in the debate. Everything else is about facts vs pro-life lies irrelevant to abortion rights.
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sandyallen
replied on December 12th, 2004
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I totally agree, these pro-lifers will never learn or win, they have to keep on telling more lies to cover up for the one's that they have already told. I love psychology. I have said this before, their always has been a choice, always is a choice and always will be a choice for abortion and they will not be able to change this. Pro-choice, all the way! I agree, they are totally out there and each time they are digging themselves a bigger hole to place themselves in. I agree a lot of this bull-roar they bring up is irrelivant.
Sincerely,
sandy
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jenn_smithson
replied on December 12th, 2004
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While I of course agree with you completely, without them we would have nothing to talk about. We'd just all be sitting around. And, there is hope. Bd was at one time "pro-life" and we've managed to show her the light. There's always hope that the same can happen with other self-styled "pro-lifers".

Peace,
jenn
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SamiNSunisMa
replied on December 13th, 2004
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Laughing "the light" im on the fence, I believe u should own up to ur actions, but there are situations where its best for all involved to have one
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oopoopoop
replied on December 13th, 2004
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That is exactly the pro-choice position. Only we don't feel that we know better than the woman involved as to what those situations are.
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sandyallen
replied on December 13th, 2004
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I totally agree that there is always hope, some are just not to educated on the subject of pro-choice and their are a lot of pro-lifers are very mis-informed.
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sandy
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SamiNSunisMa
replied on December 13th, 2004
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Hmm I was pro-life until I saw the abortion clinic bombing, since women go there also for check ups.
Anyhow I think a lot of these ppl need to own up.
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