Originally Posted On Another Forum By Moira..please Read. Posted: 12-08-04 23:29pm
If a fertilised egg was legally a person
and abortion homicide…
1)clearly, every miscarriage would have to
be investigated as homicide. An internal
examination would need to be carried out
in the presence of a police officer as
soon as the woman arrived at hospital. If
the woman was found to have endangered her
fetus in any way (drinking, having sex –
oh hang on, we’d better make pregnant
woman doing this illegal as it can cause a
miscarriage) then she will be charged.
Didn’t know she was pregnant? That’s no
excuse! Murderer!
2) if no proof of intent was found, then a
miscarriage would also have to be
investigated for manslaughter. If say, a
woman fell down the stairs and caused a
miscarriage then she would have to be
tried and sentenced for accidental
killing/manslaughter or similar. Just as
when you drive you are liable if you kill
somebody, you must be liable when you
cause the death of the beloved fetus.
Naturally pregnant women seen wearing high
heels or tight jeans will be hauled in and
charged with fetal endangerment -they’re
trying to induce a miscarriage! Murderer!
3) now as women will still self abort (for
they can be evil like that) they will not
be able to go to the er and get treatment,
meaning they’ll bleed to death at home.
That’s great – saves us bothering to
execute them for their heinous crime.
4) clearly emergency contraception would
be banned and as vitamin c can in theory
cause implantation failure well, that
would have to be banned too. Or perhaps
it would be simpler to forbid women to buy
vitamin c tablets, or indeed oranges.
Their men can get it for them though, so
better make anything containing a
significant amount of vitamin c illegal.
There’ll be a scurvy epidemic of course
but that’s better than homicide!!
5) not only would e/c be banned but as the
iud, pill and well, pretty much all
non-barrier methods can cause implantation
failure they would be banned. Yes it’s a
shame for all women who rely on the pill
etc for health reasons but hey. Now of
course as the only b/c left (barrier
methods, nfp and spermicide) are the least
effective method of b/c there will be more
unplanned pregnancies. And of course an
increased number of rape and incest
pregnancies (can’t have the rape victims
murdering their offspring with e/c!) and
conceivably an increase in rapes as
abusive men seek to impregnate their
victims, but hey, what ya gonna do? Far
better than a woman is brutally raped than
a fertilised egg fails to implant!
6) but wait, abortion can happen in so
many ways! All herbs that can cause an
abortion must be banned and so must
acupuncture which can also cause homicide!
What a shame that so many people will
have this avenue of treatment shut down
for them. Obviously ru486 willlbe
forbidden but there’s the pesky internet
to deal with…impossible to shut down these
sites selling the drug and impossible to
stop all the drugs coming into this
country (heck, walk round a college dorm
and we’ll see what a great job we do
stopping cannabis getting into the
country) so to prevent “homicide” it’s
best to stop women using the internet. Or
indeed men. Better ban it altogether!
7)hmmmm, legally the woman can travel to
another country to abort…better make a law
against that one too. But how are we
going to check? A woman could not tell
anyone she’s pregnant and hop over to
canada, so I suggest that all women who
travel are subjected to pregnancy tests
when they leave and when they come back.
Or perhaps we could just forbid women to
travel if they’re pregnant: need life
saving surgery in another country? No!
Need to travel on business? Noo! Fathers
funeral? Noooo! You might be planning to
homicide!
Hmm major problem…as nobody knows of the
fertilised eggs existence (unlike a born
person who is fully registered) and it’s
not even visible to the human eye, we’re
going to have problems with women aborting
and nobody knowing. Best that all women
are pregnancy tested every fortnight – no,
better make that every week – and then
fully quizzed to make sure they plan no
harm.
Oh but hang on, a pregnancy test doesn’t
work in the first month…well this is a
conundrum. She could homicide the
fertilised egg after conception and no-one
would know! Best that all women hand in
their sanitary towels for full inspection
to check there’s not a poor murdered
fertilised egg in there. Any woman who
claims to have no pad to hand in due to a
late period or irregular cycle will be
fully investigated by police and doctor
and as a minimum of 2/3 of eggs fail to
implant we’re going to have a lot of
potential murders to investigate. Any
woman who doesn’t look suitably distressed
at her beloved babies death (they’ll claim
not to know there was a fertilised egg
there of course, but that’s no excuse)
will instantly be swept off for
questioning.
9) lordy me, there are so many things that
can harm a beloved sacred fetus…pregnant
women must be forbidden to drink or smoke
obviously, and must stick to a healthy
diet (obviously failure to take prenatal
vitamins will be punished). But what
about pollution? Any woman who walks
beside a road or indeed, gets too close to
a car will be prosecuted. Need to get to
work? Tchah! That could be homicide! In
fact, lets ship all pregnant women to the
middle of the countryside where they can
be supervised to make sure they’re
behaving properly. Oh but hang on…a woman
could be pregnant and we wouldn’t know it
– best to ship off all women just in case.
10) we’ll have to have an overhall of the
social security system as obviously, a
shnoogy little fertilised egg can get
welfare. We’ll have to overhall the way
we register births and deaths, not to
mention the increased amount of funerals
for this *sniff* poor little zefs. Then
we’ll have to re-write the constitution to
remove that silly little part about “born
persons” and any mention of (snigger)
bodily autonomy.
Talking of which, as forced organ donation
is now law, everybody get ready to donate
your kidneys, blood, corneas etc! Wait a
minute, what’s that I hear about not
wanting to harm yourself donating your
bodily resources? Hypocrite and
murderer!! Look forward to the news
titles “…and today a man was sentenced to
4 years imprisonment for causing another
mans blindness through refusal to donate a
cornea…” nah, something tells me forced
organ donation will magically only apply
to pregnancy meaning that women officially
now have less rights than men. Well, the
womens lib thing was overrated anyway and
lets face it, and the extreme right wing
fundies will be happy so it evens out
nicely.
What am I talking about? This is insane!
Where will the money come from? This
pregnancy policing would cripple the
economy, not to mention the welfare for
fertilised eggs who are after all
people... Better to make sex legal only
for procreation. If a couple intend to
procreate they will get a special sex
license and be allowed to breed. Of
course this means that marriages can’t be
consummated for years, or that couples who
don’t want children can never have sex but
well, that’s better than homicide!! They
can either have full sterilisation (better
make it a full hysterectomy and leave
nothing in there, just to be on the safe
side) or wait until after the menopause.
To make sure this law is followed we can
have weekly virginity tests for the women.
Any woman found to have had
non-procreational sex will be charged
immediately. Of course we won’t charge
rape victims, but they will need to prove
rape and as at the moment we have a 7%
conviction rate (and no real way to
improve it) that means 93% of women
charged will be innocent but hey, who
cares? The well being of a woman pales in
comparison to a non-sentient blob of cells
who must be protected at all costs.
Please help make this law! Campaign!
Donate! Campaigning starts at home – lock
up your women and make sure they don’t eat
oranges or wear high heels – remember,
they are now officially second class
citizens and don’t deserve the same rights
as men! They can carry sacred fertilised
eggs so must be treated like the walking
wombs they are!
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 12-09-04 11:32am
I guess that either shut them up and they
have nothing to say or they have add and
didn't read it all.
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 12-09-04 12:24pm
jlee77
wrote:
hmmmm.......Can we all say
hypocrite for assuming you know any of
us?
Quote:
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i think you could
handle a child right
now.
again...Pot...Kettle...Black.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 12-09-04 12:25pm
Hypocrite is what you are jlee.. Go back
to your cave.