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jdeitsch79

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My Partner Is Bi-polar And I Need Help!!!!
Posted: 11-22-04 23:25pm

Hello- me and my partner have been living together for 2 years and she has become more abusive and we have started fighting a lot like everyday she gets angry at me from reasons to the mail isnt here yet to I am looking at her wrong.. Now this has been going on for 2 years and finally she was told she has been on the wrong meds. And she is bi-polar. Well I understand but right now I am in no emotional state to handle her. See my mom was just killed and I am trying to heal myself and all she wants to do is fight. I love her very much and want to help but how can I help her and not hurt myself? Sad if anyone can tell me what to do I welcome them with open arms. Jdeitsch79
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she who wonders

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Take Care of You!
Posted: 11-23-04 22:48pm

Sometimes you have to take care of yourself. Until you are okay with you, then and only then can you help her. Bipolar is selfish, self centered, and always for what they think is important. I am not saying they have no feelings or they don't feel what you are going through but that feeling you have will always be second to the emotion or feeling that they ( the bipolar person) is having. Sometimes they just can't give you what you are looking for. Is your relationship worth this? Only you can answer. I do know also that bipolar illness is hard on the partner because they are smart and they know how to fight dirty and with that they have a I don't give a rip attitude. I know how it hurts to love someone so much but can do nothing but wait till the mood changes, it is their way or the highway. It will not go away, it can get better, but will never go away. It will happen again it always does. Sorry if this is offending to anyone, it is how I feel. I hope this helped in some way.
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boogaloo

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Posted: 12-02-04 02:36am

This is in respomse to the guy's letter named jdeitsch79, and to she who wonders who replied back. I was absolutely horrified in this letter responding. You obviously are an angry person who doesnot understand the illness ( and it is just that). This guy sounds like he has a lot of emotions going on right now, and i'd hate for him to be given such one sided advise (which your letter was, and it was more like a health forum session for you to blow off steam). I am a female living with bi-polar and donot have these charateristics of which was written in this letter you wrote i'm a very caring nurse, mother of a teenage boy (whom i'm very close to) and my husband and I are best of friends . It's not easy living with this illness, and at times medications need to be altered, which can cause problems as well. But what i'd like to say to this young man who wrote the inital letter is: first i'd like to say how sorry I feel for your loss, it must be unbearable at times, and I wish you didn't have to go through this, I really do. I hope there is support for you and your greiving family, second is that it sounds like your girlfriend needs to be reassessed (her meds.)and hopfully is taking them as prescribed. Sometimes people have problems in life and their relationships and so do people who have bi-polar (without it always being "blamed" on the illness) . You should tell her what you are feeling, and maybe she also greiving, and doesn't quiet know how to deal with it herself. Counsolling for you both as a couple would help: to teach you coping skills- to help you deal with life crisis, your greiving and simply couple therapy. It sounds like you love this woman, and every relationship has a time when you can't see through the pain (and you do have alot of pain going on right now). Over all, don't make any decisions right now. Take time away from your girlfriend, stay with a friend if you have to. You need time to grieve the loss of your mother. If your girlfriend doesn't understand that, then she needs time also to get her priorities in line. But don't be mistaken and don't let her use her illness as a crutch. Women with bi-polar are not all selfish and health forum. Please drop another note to let us know how you are doing
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she who wonders

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Posted: 12-02-04 22:45pm

I did not mean to offend anyone, and am sorry if you were. I also feel sorry for jdeitsch79, which is why I was honest. As to boogaloo what you are horrified with is maybe you see yourself in what I said. I also agree that his girlfriend should be reassessed, or is not taking her meds. I meant to say that when bipolar illness is not being treated nor needs adjusting in meds this is the way actions come out in bipolar patients. Bipolar is not easy and I have respect and look up to those who do not let the illness run their lives, but are on top of it and control the illness. Boogaloo you yourself said that when medications need to be altered, this can cause problems. Boogaloo, honestly when you are on an up swing, do you run to the doctor and say, slow me down, I am moving to fast. I think not. Do you argue and say I have never felt better. I think so. Do you fight with the ones you love the most? It is hard to live with someone who is bipolar. You don't have to look far to see what the ratio is of a long marriage with a loved one who is bipolar. Please also note that when bipolar is treated and it works, the person who has the illness is not the person who is manic or depressed. The actions taken when manic or depressed are not the actions taken when in a medium level. I was not talking about the person always behaving like this just when the illness is working overtime. Jdeitsch79 I love a man who is bipolar and have been through many manics and many depressions, many fights, so many hurts. I know it is a illness, and understand everthing about bipolar but this still doesn't make me feel good when the anger is directed at me. There is enough problems in relationships, normal relationships, but there are many more when one has bipolar. She who wonders
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toxicdragon

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actions speak......
Posted: 10-14-08 01:25am

louder then words. i have been in love with a great guy for 9 years now. his actions do not match what he says. he says really mean things to me, but he would do anything in the world for me. we've lived together for the last 4 years, he seems to nit pick at every little thing. then he says he's fed up and always want me to leave. but he doesn't do anything to accomplish that. he was told by his doctor he had bipolar disorder and his mother has told me that other family members also suffer from it. the doctor had prescibed medication. for a few months he was wonderful! no mean comments, he actually said out of the blue "he was happy". he took me out to dinner on our 5 year anniversary to the place of our first date, secretly invited our parents and kids. then started to sweat like crazy. i thought he had an allergic reaction to his food! then, he looked at me, pulled out a diamond ring and asked me to marry him!!!! i was shocked! didn't have a clue! anyway, a few months later after stopping his medication, he told me he made a mistake. i asked him to talk to his doctor about adjusting his med but he said he just stopped taking it because it didn't work anymore. is this behavior consistant with other disorder suffers?
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soucie

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Re: Take Care of You!
Posted: 10-14-08 02:07am

she who wonders wrote:
Bipolar is selfish, self centered, and always for what they think is important. I am not saying they have no feelings or they don't feel what you are going through but that feeling you have will always be second to the emotion or feeling that they ( the bipolar person) is having. Sometimes they just can't give you what you are looking for.


You got that right. Jd79 , I highlight this part of her reply because I feel like this doesn't get emphasized enough. Your girl's first and most dominant relationship right now is with her BP. In a normal state, she would totally be there for you, but there is an awful wall between the two of you and frankly, she probably can't even see your pain through the bricks of that wall. She can't connect with you given that.

My heart goes out to you because you I'm sure you really, really need someone there for you, but it sounds like she is massively consumed in her own twistedness of the moment. BP is massively consuming... If she is anything like me, she won't be able to get out of it, away from it - not for long. I can intellectually do what is "right/normal", and I can at times fake it, but I can't do it for long. It's not how I authentically operate under the BP.

I'm not going to tell you to leave the relationship, but it might be smart to just reframe your expectations. Learn as much as you can about BP; read posts from people who share what it is like from our perspective so you get an idea what she might be experiencing. I just posted something on this very topic for this exact reason. I think it's only fair that you guys know what the inside looks and feels like. Then you can decide if this is really something you want to be involved with at this time in her life. You can certainly revisit the relationship once she is on meds that work for her.

Now, I'll be the first to say that abuse is abuse and I wouldn't suggest tolerating it under any circumstances. Sometimes we have to hit rock bottom (lose it all) before we get how serious the condition is and get motivated to "fix" it, or get on the right meds, or take meds in the first place. I was having rage attacks and in the end, they were being directed toward my boyfriend. And I injured him in the last one and paid serious consequences for it. But then I got that I needed help. That something was really, really wrong. A year later I was dx'ed as a BP and I put two and two together. And no, he and I are no longer together.

I imagine that you are in no position to handle any kind of abuse at this time. It might be wise to just step back a little... let yourself heal and mourn your loss - and look to others to help support you at this time. I'm sure she would be there for you if she could, but BP doesn't work that way. It's not going to let you anywhere near her - as evidenced by the constant fighting and abuse.

There are lots of support groups out there - in person, online, forums, etc. Your girl isn't in a position to be able to support you right now. She can't even handle her OWN stuff, much less support you through your stuff. I know her love and support would mean the most to you right now, but understand that her ability to give it to you appears to be seriously blocked at the moment.

This is only my experience with BP; others may disagree.
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soucie

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Re: actions speak......
Posted: 10-14-08 02:19am

toxicdragon wrote:
a few months later after stopping his medication, he told me he made a mistake.


Under BP, we aren't connected to who we really are, nor to what we really want, or to how we really feel. We're literally tied by the ankle to the random winds of the BP (the ups and downs, the twists and turns, the sudden change in direction). The BP is freakin' crazy. It has no idea where it is going either. So it goes with the wind and drags us with it - unwillingly of course.

So he proposes and then says he made a mistake. He's on meds and then says they don't work. I've said "yes yes let's get together!" and then refused to return a call or ever see the person again. I've "fallen in love" and then decided to end it the next day. And then changed my mind before I actually did end it.

I have no idea what I am doing. I'm chained to something that is jerking me around in the wind. And then people try to understand what I am doing or why I am doing it? Geez - I couldn't explain that to myself, much less to them!

And you know what the worst part is for you? I bet he has no idea that is exactly what is happening to him. He's probably under the impression that he is in the driver's seat. Under BP, you're not even close to the front seat. You're in the trunk.
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