Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 1 Location: louisville, ky
My Partner Is Bi-polar And I Need Help!!!! Posted: 11-22-04 23:25pm
Hello- me and my partner have been living
together for 2 years and she has become
more abusive and we have started fighting
a lot like everyday she gets angry at me
from reasons to the mail isnt here yet to
I am looking at her wrong.. Now this has
been going on for 2 years and finally she
was told she has been on the wrong meds.
And she is bi-polar. Well I understand
but right now I am in no emotional state
to handle her. See my mom was just killed
and I am trying to heal myself and all she
wants to do is fight. I love her very
much and want to help but how can I help
her and not hurt myself? if anyone can tell
me what to do I welcome them with open
arms. Jdeitsch79
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she who wonders
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 10 Location: minnesota
Take Care of You! Posted: 11-23-04 22:48pm
Sometimes you have to take care of
yourself. Until you are okay with you,
then and only then can you help her.
Bipolar is selfish, self centered, and
always for what they think is important.
I am not saying they have no feelings or
they don't feel what you are going through
but that feeling you have will always be
second to the emotion or feeling that they
( the bipolar person) is having.
Sometimes they just can't give you what
you are looking for. Is your
relationship worth this? Only you can
answer. I do know also that bipolar
illness is hard on the partner because
they are smart and they know how to fight
dirty and with that they have a I don't
give a rip attitude. I know how it hurts
to love someone so much but can do nothing
but wait till the mood changes, it is
their way or the highway. It will not go
away, it can get better, but will never go
away. It will happen again it always
does. Sorry if this is offending to
anyone, it is how I feel. I hope this
helped in some way.
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boogaloo
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Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: kitchener
Responding -don't Judge Posted: 12-02-04 02:36am
This is in respomse to the guy's letter
named jdeitsch79, and to she who wonders
who replied back. I was absolutely
horrified in this letter responding. You
obviously are an angry person who doesnot
understand the illness ( and it is just
that). This guy sounds like he has a lot
of emotions going on right now, and i'd
hate for him to be given such one sided
advise (which your letter was, and it was
more like a health forum session for you
to blow off steam). I am a female living
with bi-polar and donot have these
charateristics of which was written in
this letter you wrote i'm a very caring
nurse, mother of a teenage boy (whom i'm
very close to) and my husband and I are
best of friends . It's not easy living
with this illness, and at times
medications need to be altered, which can
cause problems as well. But what i'd
like to say to this young man who wrote
the inital letter is: first i'd like to
say how sorry I feel for your loss, it
must be unbearable at times, and I wish
you didn't have to go through this, I
really do. I hope there is support for
you and your greiving family, second is
that it sounds like your girlfriend needs
to be reassessed (her meds.)and hopfully
is taking them as prescribed. Sometimes
people have problems in life and their
relationships and so do people who have
bi-polar (without it always being "blamed"
on the illness) . You should tell her
what you are feeling, and maybe she also
greiving, and doesn't quiet know how to
deal with it herself. Counsolling for
you both as a couple would help: to teach
you coping skills- to help you deal with
life crisis, your greiving and simply
couple therapy. It sounds like you love
this woman, and every relationship has a
time when you can't see through the pain
(and you do have alot of pain going on
right now). Over all, don't make any
decisions right now. Take time away from
your girlfriend, stay with a friend if you
have to. You need time to grieve the
loss of your mother. If your girlfriend
doesn't understand that, then she needs
time also to get her priorities in line.
But don't be mistaken and don't let her
use her illness as a crutch. Women with
bi-polar are not all selfish and health
forum. Please drop another note to let
us know how you are doing
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she who wonders
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 10 Location: minnesota
Responding-not Judgeing Posted: 12-02-04 22:45pm
I did not mean to offend anyone, and am
sorry if you were. I also feel sorry for
jdeitsch79, which is why I was honest.
As to boogaloo what you are horrified with
is maybe you see yourself in what I said.
I also agree that his girlfriend should
be reassessed, or is not taking her meds.
I meant to say that when bipolar illness
is not being treated nor needs adjusting
in meds this is the way actions come out
in bipolar patients. Bipolar is not easy
and I have respect and look up to those
who do not let the illness run their
lives, but are on top of it and control
the illness. Boogaloo you yourself said
that when medications need to be altered,
this can cause problems. Boogaloo,
honestly when you are on an up swing, do
you run to the doctor and say, slow me
down, I am moving to fast. I think not.
Do you argue and say I have never felt
better. I think so. Do you fight with
the ones you love the most? It is hard
to live with someone who is bipolar. You
don't have to look far to see what the
ratio is of a long marriage with a loved
one who is bipolar. Please also note
that when bipolar is treated and it works,
the person who has the illness is not the
person who is manic or depressed. The
actions taken when manic or depressed are
not the actions taken when in a medium
level. I was not talking about the person
always behaving like this just when the
illness is working overtime. Jdeitsch79
I love a man who is bipolar and have been
through many manics and many depressions,
many fights, so many hurts. I know it is
a illness, and understand everthing about
bipolar but this still doesn't make me
feel good when the anger is directed at
me. There is enough problems in
relationships, normal relationships, but
there are many more when one has bipolar.
She who wonders
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toxicdragon
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Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 1
actions speak...... Posted: 10-14-08 01:25am
louder then words. i have been in love
with a great guy for 9 years now. his
actions do not match what he says. he says
really mean things to me, but he would do
anything in the world for me. we've lived
together for the last 4 years, he seems
to nit pick at every little thing. then he
says he's fed up and always want me to
leave. but he doesn't do anything to
accomplish that. he was told by his
doctor he had bipolar disorder and his
mother has told me that other family
members also suffer from it. the doctor
had prescibed medication. for a few months
he was wonderful! no mean comments, he
actually said out of the blue "he was
happy". he took me out to dinner on our 5
year anniversary to the place of our first
date, secretly invited our parents and
kids. then started to sweat like crazy. i
thought he had an allergic reaction to
his food! then, he looked at me, pulled
out a diamond ring and asked me to marry
him!!!! i was shocked! didn't have a
clue! anyway, a few months later after
stopping his medication, he told me he
made a mistake. i asked him to talk to
his doctor about adjusting his med but he
said he just stopped taking it because it
didn't work anymore. is this behavior
consistant with other disorder suffers?
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soucie
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Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 15 Location: ,
Re: Take Care of You! Posted: 10-14-08 02:07am
she who wonders
wrote:
Bipolar is selfish, self
centered, and always for what they think
is important. I am not saying they have
no feelings or they don't feel what you
are going through but that feeling you
have will always be second to the emotion
or feeling that they ( the bipolar person)
is having. Sometimes they just can't
give you what you are looking
for.
You got that right. Jd79 , I highlight
this part of her reply because I feel like
this doesn't get emphasized enough. Your
girl's first and most dominant
relationship right now is with her BP. In
a normal state, she would totally be there
for you, but there is an awful wall
between the two of you and frankly, she
probably can't even see your pain through
the bricks of that wall. She can't connect
with you given that.
My heart goes out to you because you I'm
sure you really, really need someone there
for you, but it sounds like she is
massively consumed in her own twistedness
of the moment. BP is massively
consuming... If she is anything like me,
she won't be able to get out of it, away
from it - not for long. I can
intellectually do what is "right/normal",
and I can at times fake it, but I can't do
it for long. It's not how I authentically
operate under the BP.
I'm not going to tell you to leave the
relationship, but it might be smart to
just reframe your expectations. Learn as
much as you can about BP; read posts from
people who share what it is like from our
perspective so you get an idea what she
might be experiencing. I just posted
something on this very topic for this
exact reason. I think it's only fair that
you guys know what the inside looks and
feels like. Then you can decide if this is
really something you want to be involved
with at this time in her life. You can
certainly revisit the relationship once
she is on meds that work for her.
Now, I'll be the first to say that abuse
is abuse and I wouldn't suggest tolerating
it under any circumstances. Sometimes we
have to hit rock bottom (lose it all)
before we get how serious the condition is
and get motivated to "fix" it, or get on
the right meds, or take meds in the first
place. I was having rage attacks and in
the end, they were being directed toward
my boyfriend. And I injured him in the
last one and paid serious consequences for
it. But then I got that I needed help.
That something was really, really wrong. A
year later I was dx'ed as a BP and I put
two and two together. And no, he and I are
no longer together.
I imagine that you are in no position to
handle any kind of abuse at this time. It
might be wise to just step back a
little... let yourself heal and mourn your
loss - and look to others to help support
you at this time. I'm sure she would be
there for you if she could, but BP doesn't
work that way. It's not going to let you
anywhere near her - as evidenced by the
constant fighting and abuse.
There are lots of support groups out there
- in person, online, forums, etc. Your
girl isn't in a position to be able to
support you right now. She can't even
handle her OWN stuff, much less support
you through your stuff. I know her love
and support would mean the most to you
right now, but understand that her ability
to give it to you appears to be seriously
blocked at the moment.
This is only my experience with BP; others
may disagree.
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soucie
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Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 15 Location: ,
Re: actions speak...... Posted: 10-14-08 02:19am
toxicdragon
wrote:
a few months later after
stopping his medication, he told me he
made a
mistake.
Under BP, we aren't connected to who we
really are, nor to what we really want, or
to how we really feel. We're literally
tied by the ankle to the random winds of
the BP (the ups and downs, the twists and
turns, the sudden change in direction).
The BP is freakin' crazy. It has no idea
where it is going either. So it goes with
the wind and drags us with it -
unwillingly of course.
So he proposes and then says he made a
mistake. He's on meds and then says they
don't work. I've said "yes yes let's get
together!" and then refused to return a
call or ever see the person again. I've
"fallen in love" and then decided to end
it the next day. And then changed my mind
before I actually did end it.
I have no idea what I am doing. I'm
chained to something that is jerking me
around in the wind. And then people try to
understand what I am doing or why I am
doing it? Geez - I couldn't explain that
to myself, much less to them!
And you know what the worst part is for
you? I bet he has no idea that is exactly
what is happening to him. He's probably
under the impression that he is in the
driver's seat. Under BP, you're not even
close to the front seat. You're in the
trunk.