A human fetus is a being of human nature. I consider that a human being.

A fetus is alive and growing it has its own individual and unique identity even within the mother (even if the mother dies the fetus can continue to live). The fetus has its own unique dna different from any other human being save an identical twin. A fetus unless it dies or is killed will continue to live and grow and eventually be born. A fetus is a human being disabled or abled bodied he is a human being wanted or unwanted, the fetus is a human being no matter how much they tell you it is not.

That is so sickening, the idea of a human being inside another person, yuck, just like something out of a science fiction movie or a circus freak show. How can we allow this in a civilised society?

"that is so sickening, the idea of a human being inside another person, yuck, just like something out of a science fiction movie or a circus freak show. How can we allow this in a civilised society?"

i am going to take that the only way possible... As a joke, however health question is not a laughing matter especially when it is allowed by our own governements.

It's not meant as a joke -- the idea of pregnancy is totally repugnant. No one can force anyone to live with this. When men can become pregnant then they can have an opinion.

Try asking someone with a tumour whether they should have to keep it inside them.

In response to:

'the idea of pregnancy is totally repugnant. No one can force anyone to live with this. When men can become pregnant then they can have an opinion. '

a.) so you've claimed that the idea of pregnancy is disgusting. There is no reason to beleive that it is right or wrong based on your perception of it being disgusting.






B.) you've claimed that no one can force you to live with this. You are correct - that's the law. But remember, all the law is, is a set of rules by which our society has chosen to live. It has little to do with right and wrong - it changes continuously. The more corrupt the society, the more corrupt the law.






C.) you claim that men can't have an opinion on this matter because they don't have to go through it. In society, we agree that health question constitutes a crime. Many of us have never been tempted to commit a crime- we've never been in a position where nearly every part of our being is urging us to commit the act, but we know it's wrong all the same.

See my other post.. It doesn't matter if a fetus is a human being or not.

When a word is edited out on this site it is done so for a reason. Misspelling it or typing it with s pac es so that the system doesn't recognize it is not allowed! You will be banned for doing this.

A fetus is not a human being. It is a bunch of tissues that feed off of a human.

My apologies. You're right - I should have shown proper respect for the rules that govern this forum, and I will in the future (provided I don't get booted).

Having said that, I must admit my dissappointment with such rules. It is often argued that prolifer's are guilty of forcing their beliefs on others. However, it seems to me that with the 'jail words', we are not even permitted to fully express our views. Who is forcing their beliefs on whom?

Your argument is unsupported. It is purely speculative.

My argument is not unsupported as it is the law that a fetus is not considered a human being. The fact that it is law doesn't make it a fact per say, but it is "supported" your argument that a fetus is a human being isn't supported, but once again doesn't make it wrong.

Thank you for respecting this forum. I don't quite understand some of the editings either, but I really don't think they are meant to be on either side. It is simply that by law abortion is legal and therefore is not, the bad word, so that is why I think it is edited out.
Many people have been kicked off of this forum for continuing to type those words, and thank you for stopping.

To the admin
i would like an expaination as to why (sorry for this but to make sure you know wich word I am talking about I will misspell it) murrder is automatically changed? Is it like this throughout the board or just on this issue?


I can see no reason why it is automatically changed after all it is a dictionary word! I can understand bad language being so but please I would like a decent reason why it is not allowed, it seems like the silliest thing to me!

If its because it causes offence
can we ban the terms zygote, fetus and embryo as they are offensive to people who recognise the unborn as human beings and these terms are often used in dehumanizing ways!

If its because abortion is legal and not m in legal terms, that is unreasonable oppresion of freedom of speach for those who recognise it is m by the law of morallity. How would people feel if I suddenly took away their right to use the word "it" or someother word its totally unreasonable!

I already explained this above, but I will type it again.
Abortion is legally not (the bad word). I guess it isn't allowed because since it is legal and not the bad word then it is offensive and incorrect to say that it is. I guess. I don't know. But, yes, it is edited throughout the whole forum, so maybe there is another reason I am not sure.
As for editing out those other words, they are biological and correct terms and therefore, whether offensive or not they are allowed. Curse words are edited out too, so I guess it all just comes down to being offensive.

But the m word is a dictionary word! Just as zygote embryo and fetus are to censor a word to prevent use of in certain contexts such as "the woman who killed her unborn baby is a m" and "the fetus is not a human being" is ludicris and totaly unconstitutional!

Abortion is not the "m" word,except in anti-abortion circles.I do not think most women who have abortions do it on a whim,they think about it and agonize over it and make the best decision they can at the time.Like i've said before,it's easy to judge when you do not know the whole story.Patty

um. Wow.

Izzy.. You're really one to talk about human rights. abortion cannot or should not be illegal because it could cause harm to a woman and maybe kill her and no matter how small that chance it.. It is still enough to justify the woman choosing for herself whether or not to go through with pregnancy. Keeping her pregnant against her will would be keeping her in a vulnerable and potentially dangerous postion so her right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness would be violated. Her right to life would be violated because she is in a vulnerable position (the fetus is not covered under the constitution so don't even go there) and her pursuit of happiness because she would obviously not be very happy if she is forced to carry a pregnancy to term and liberty becuase pregnant woman can't take certain meds for an ailment and they can't do many things because it could cause harm to the zef. They cannot even relieve a stuffed up nose or enjoy caffeinated beverages or alcohol.

Oh honestly bd, please grow up and get some sense, your just so so way off beam! You cant seem to grasp any aspect of this debate.

"abortion cannot or should not be illegal because it could cause harm to a woman and maybe kill her"

well no one is trying to prevent women getting abortions when they are likely to die!


"keeping her pregnant against her will "

no one is forcing her to remain pregnant she could still get an abortion. At the end of the day individuals are a law unto themselves, the law simply is there for those who agree with it it just wouldnt be legal so she would have to suffer the consiquences of the law if caught!

"the fetus is not covered under the constitution so don't even go there"

yes it is!

You mind is so weird and manipulated its just babble most of what you say that makes no sense or you just dont understand

It is the mind of someone who thinks that their morality is better or more correct than someone else's which is having delusions.