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Q: the Death Penalty

asked by: smith8500 on November 2nd, 2004

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Forwarning~if this post gets outta hand, i'll deleat it as fast as I posted it.

Are you for or against the death penalty and why?

I am 100% death!

"if we are to abolish the death penalty, I should like to see the first step taken by my friends the mur derers."
-- alphonse karr (1808-1890)

"if we execute mur derers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of mur derers. If we fail to execute mur derers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other mur ders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call."
john mcadams - marquette university/department of political science, on deterrence

“it's because I have so much regard for human life that I favor capital punishment. homicide is the most terrible crime there is. Anything less than the death penalty is an insult to the victim and society. It says…that we don't value the victim's life enough to punish the killer fully." - mike royko

it is often said that mur derers are the criminals least likely to repeat their crimes.
Does that statistic matter if you become the victim of one who bucks the trend?

Replies(22)

linuxChique

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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For. Of course just like any of us I think there should be other options for things like involuntary manslaughter, which isn't really homicide anyway, but I think if you knowingly kill, you should be punished accordingly.

smith8500

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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linuxchique wrote:

i think there should be other options for things like involuntary manslaughter, which isn't really homicide anyway

i agree.

Mommy2Seany

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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For. If you kill, you should then be killed... But then again, what does that solve..

I am for in some situations I guess. Like my dad didnt kill anyone but the man was in a coma for 2 months and they wanted to kill my dad, I dont agree there, I do agree with him getting 5-10 for aggravated assault though..

You get the point.

kitty_55

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I agree with it.... If someone kills another person or more than one person in a horriable way they should get it.... But I think that spending the rest of the persons life in jail is worse but I do agree with the death pletntly

Heathergirl

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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Agree with it. But I think we should use a rope and save our tax money, I mean, you can use a rope over and over again and it isn't expensive. That's my theory.

smith8500

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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heathergirl wrote:

but I think we should use a rope and save our tax money, I mean, you can use a rope over and over again and it isn't expensive. That's my theory.

you got it babe! Exclamation

GuitarJade

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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We, as humans, have no right to take a life... Even a life that has taken another life. I believe that .God is the only one who can do that. Although we can put them in prison and judge them that way, I believe that only .God should judge them in the manner or life or death. Also, there are so many things that can go wrong with trials and evidence. Before a certain date (i don't exactly remember the date) it has been proven that at least 2/3 of the people who were put to death were proven innocent at a later date, and even today, approximately 1/3 of the people who have been put to death have been proven innocent. Why should we continue to take innocent lives? Yes, it's more expensive to put a person in prision for life, but itsn't it worth it if we save at least one wrongly accused life?
So, in short, i'm definitely against the death penalty.

bellax0x

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I believe in the death penalty but im kinad torn bc im also a big believer in the fact taht 2 wrongs dont make a right

<3
gaby

linuxChique

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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guitarjade wrote:

we, as humans, have no right to take a life... Even a life that has taken another life. I believe that .God is the only one who can do that. Although we can put them in prison and judge them that way, I believe that only .God should judge them in the manner or life or death. Also, there are so many things that can go wrong with trials and evidence. Before a certain date (i don't exactly remember the date) it has been proven that at least 2/3 of the people who were put to death were proven innocent at a later date, and even today, approximately 1/3 of the people who have been put to death have been proven innocent. Why should we continue to take innocent lives? Yes, it's more expensive to put a person in prision for life, but itsn't it worth it if we save at least one wrongly accused life?
So, in short, i'm definitely against the death penalty.

god tells us to use capital punishment in the .Bible. If you're using .God to back up your beliefs, you must be *for* capital punishment.

Exodus 21:14-17
but if a man willfully attacks another to kill him treacherously, you shall take him from my altar, that he may die. "whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death. "whoever steals a man, whether he sells him or is found in possession of him, shall be put to death. "whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death.

Verse 23-25:
if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

nippz

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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Wow I dont know. But those people deserve to take the consequences. They wouldn't have to go through if they didn't do anything in the first place. I'm for it.

smith8500

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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And those aren't the only verses! Erin's correct!

linuxChique

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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No, those are just the first ones I found!!

Michelle1337

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I support the death penalty 100%

although, there are so many holes in our government that a lot of times innocent people get sentenced to death. For instance, a man was in jail for 5 years for 10 rapes and mur ders and just before he was supposed to be put to death they found that he was completely innocent from all of those crimes.

So...It kind of scares me a little when we do put someone to death...Because who knows, maybe he/she was innocent.

little_woman

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I havent really decided on the issue yet, but I say let the punishment fit the crime....Sometimes life is worse than death....If youre even a human being inside

GuitarJade

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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True. The bible does teach in the .Old .Testament that capital punishment is ok, but if you look in the .New .Testament, you'll see that it's not.

"but I say unto you, that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." -matthew 5:39

"and these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." -matthew 25:46

"this moses whom they refused, saying, who made thee a ruler and a judge? The same did god send [to be] a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush." -acts 7:35

god is the only one who can punish a person for a certain wrong. It's like the old saying "two wrong's don't make a right." and my opinion isn't soley based on my religous beliefs. It's mainly based on the historical fact that so many innocent people have been put to death because of tarnished evidence or the inability to properly process it. I just don't think it's right to condemn another person to death.

linuxChique

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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guitarjade wrote:

"but I say unto you, that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." -matthew 5:39

i see your point here, but I believe this verse in particular is talking about immediate retribution on the part of someone who does not have the authority to exercise retribution. Jesus also says in the .New .Testament "give unto .Caesar what is .Caesars and unto .God what is .God's." he's not just talking about taxes. He's also saying that governments are there for a reason, and that we are to subject ourselves to them when they don't directly contradict .God's .Word.

guitarjade wrote:

"and these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." -matthew 25:46

"this moses whom they refused, saying, who made thee a ruler and a judge? The same did god send [to be] a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush." -acts 7:35

these don't have anything to do with gov't having or not having authority to punish. They only say that .God does.

Are you saying that you believe the gov't never has the authority to punish?

sweetsuzi

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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Sorry I havent really read anybody elses comments, dont have time lol

but in response to chanda, I agree the death penelty is the best punishment for murderers!! But it's the innocents I feel sorry for. There will always be mistakes!!

We dont have it here though

GuitarJade

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I'm not saying that the government doesn't have the ability to punish... On contrare! If that were so, the world would be in absolute chaos! I just believe that .God is the ultimate judge and that we don't have the right to take a life. The ultimate punishment is eternal damnation and we shouldn't punish people based on life or death.

"you shall not m*rder." -exodus 20:13
if we take a life for a life, isn't that the same is murdering somebody? I think that it most definitely is! A life taken is a life taken... No matter in what way (homicide/death penalty).

And as for immediate retribution, it all depends on how you traslate it.

cherriegurl

replied on November 2nd, 2004

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I think ron white said it best "if u kill us we will kill u back" (not his exact words)

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