Hooray!!! Congrats Helpwanted, I'm so glad you finally did it, and you're absolutely right that at least it's a starting point, and no doubt it will help you in the future. Blood test are not that fun, but you know, they aren't all that bad either. It's worth knowing. wow! I wish I was doing something about it, so great!

Pix, I completely agree that it's the sugars and processed foods that have the worst effect on me. The natural food is what seems best. There's several books out there that talk about all the terrible things we put in our bodies these days, and that the natural diet from the beginning has always been what's best.

Stellarboy, I've never heard that kind of feeling mentioned once yet on this entire thread. That's something completely new it seems. Have you had it checked out?

thanks coheed... i cant wait to get results so i can start eliminating things. im really dreading the tests but im just going to have to do it, and if i faint i faint. anyone got any tips? the anxiety just gets so bad in situations like that i cant control it at all

HW - well done for going to the doctor, and good luck with the blood tests. I'm not so good with having blood taken either, but tell the doctor/nurse that you're nervous and they're usually pretty good. I always look away and the nurse will usually keep me talking just to take my mind off it.

My noises are definitely much worse when i eat sugary foods or drinks. I've tried various things over the weekends, such as cakes, ice cream, chocolate, wine, cider - and on cue they start right up! I'd like to know why, but at least i am getting some way to knowing how to control them when i have something important coming up. It's a start...

i did it! had the blood tests today... wating for the results friday. it really wasnt as bad as i thought, the needle going in and out was fine, the only bit that hurt was the pressure from the blood being drwn, but thats becasue i had 4 lots taken, otherwise it would have been too quick to be too uncomfortable.
hopefully i can start getting some answers now

I hope you are fine... clearly lots of people want to help you with 41 pages on this one subject XD

this thread isnt for me! its for all of us, were all trying to help each other becasue no one else really seems interested in our problem

lol

everyones very quiet..

anyone know anything about h.pylori or ever suspected it? someone on another forum mentioned that my symtoms sounded like theirs and theyd been diagnosed witrh it

This website is driving me mad-every few months it boots me off and wont let me log in, i have to change my pass word then it wont except it, RAAAAAAAAA! Any way it's finally let me come and say hi!!

HW-WELL DONE! You should be really chuffed with yourself-you beat your fear! Sorry i couldn't offer you any words of encouragement but i was reading your posts and thinking of you. Let us know how you get on with the results.

I've heard of h.pylori-i think it's a bacteria that causes symptoms such as the noises, diareohea, bloating, sickness-that type of thing. I think a gp would need a stool sample to test for it.

Nothing new to report from me im afraid-just plodding along trying to cope the best i can, business as usual!x

Hello all,
I'm so glad I found this forum! I've been reading this thread and am so relieved others have this too, I thought it was just me. I've had the stomach noises since I was at school and I remember having to sit exams,worrying constantly about them.I even re-wrote a whole exam paper once I had finished it early by erasing what I had written and re-writing it, just so I had something to concentrate on,rather than sit there till it ended as I knew if I sat there with nothing to do I'd worry and the noises would be dreadful. One time during a lesson it was silent and my stomach growled so loudly that the whole class heard.The teacher even mentioned it! I still feel embarrassed when I think of that day and it was over 10 years ago!

The more often it happened, the more worried I got about it happening and so of course,it did.It was like a vicious circle.It was almost like having a panic attack,I would worry so much and become so nervous about it when I was in a quiet place.I sometimes got wind and needed the loo badly,which made me feel better once I had been. Anytime I get really nervous about something now,like before a job interview,I still have to go to the loo about 3 times haha, but it does help.If I didn't go, the noises would be louder and a lot worse and I'd have stomach pain so going to the loo is like a relief,in a way.Does anyone else get that?
I always feel relieved if there is a lot of background noise somewhere and tend to sit at the back.At school/Uni or in an exam I always sat at the back because it made me feel like less people would hear if there was no one behind me,and I wasn't surrounded so much.

I think this is for me,mainly a psychological thing-as since I finished University and didn't have to take any more exams or be in any really quiet places (as I avoid these usually) my stomach hardly ever makes noises anymore.When I get nervous it does but that doesn't tend to be very often now. Sometimes I get the odd growl in my stomach but nothing really bad,like before..mainly as I don't put myself in situations where I'd have to sit in silence for a long time.If I did am sure it would happen again and be just as bad.

Anyway,that's my story.It's nice to know that am not the only one out there with this problem!

pix, thankyou very much. getting a bit nervous about the results now. pretty sure ill nedd to go back for more as we havnt realy even touched on my stomach issues yet.
yeh i knew it was a bacterial thing, seems like it could be soemthing we have, it makes sense. i may mention it to my doctor!

hi bunny11,

welcome!

yep your symptoms/experiences are absolutely identical to mine! Totally understand the exam stuff you mentioned there - even the re-writing of the paper just to concentrate on something!! Fortunately in my exams you were allowed to leave after the first hour - so that was always me gone. I even used to arrive *late* at the exams so that the maximum time I was there would be 30-40 mins sometimes!! Nothing like bumping in to your lecturer on the way to an exam which started 30 minutes before! But thankfully im finished with all that

just posting because you mentioned the psychological effect. There's a bit of a split decision on the thread regarding this. I'm pretty sure that it's 90% psychological and that whatever stress we caused ourselves harmed our bodies somehow - possibly leaving us with damaged or *different* digestion/stomachs/imbalances etc. So maybe the foods and things that we were able to eat before - are no longer suited to us - and any noises that we still hear now - even when we are not under pressure - are as a result of the changes that occured when we *were* under stress.

Based on the tests that other people have had, and my own blood-tests a few years ago, it sounds like most of us are healthy. Now I've never gotten any of the endo/colonoscopy-type things done - and I dont plan to - but from people that have had them done - they've tended to result in there being nothing wrong. (that's just me btw, if anyone else thinks something is very wrong they should get it done pronto)

Over the last few weeks, I've purposely been eating food that *I know* I can't often handle well - ice-cream for instance! And sure enough the noises were worse than normal. So, I can't eat ice-cream. No big deal. I'll probably still eat it, just not when I know I'll be facing an impending quiet situation!! Point is that - I *used* to be able to eat ice-cream - why not now?

Here's an analogy: Maybe if we look at our stomach as an engine. But there are different types of engines - for example, petrol and diesel! Now both those types of engines work great on their own when they have been fueled correctly.

But if you put petrol into a diesel engine - or put diesel into a petrol engine - then neither engine work properly and you damage them. So, if our stomachs are engines - which are we? And are the engines we have *now* different to others and maybe different to what we had before? If so, maybe we can't handle the same fuel (food)? E.g., Whilst others can run on ice-cream and a million other foods - I apparently cannot - because I get the *noises*.

Yet - if I was to eat a digestive biscuit instead - I'm ok. That seems to work as a fuel!!

Well, there's something to think about!!

You often hear that stress is the biggest killer - if it can kill - I reckon it can also change the way our stomachs work. But stress is a psychological thing - determined by outside things happening to us or affecting us somehow I reckon. I'm sitting at my computer in a noisy environment and on my own. However, just 20 feet away is a quiet board-room behind a closed door. Amazing to think that if I was to be sitting in that room with one other person - I would be freaking out right now and so the noise would start...

Anyway - I love summer!!

some interesting thoughts irish lad.
im VERY confused... just got my blood test results and they were all normal. i was CONVINCED i had anemia or low ferretin becasue ive had very heavy periods for years and i have all the symptoms. i must be seriously defficient in something... i so exhuasted all the time and can walk up a flight of stairs without being very out of breath. this just doesnt make sense. seeing the doctor monday or tuesday as i havent spoken to her since the test.

help wanted - as a matter of interest - what do you eat for breakfast? I noticed that I had a distinct lack of energy over the last few weeks of crappy foods. I do a lot of running races and exercise in general - and for me the drop-off in energy levels was very noticeable. Becuase of that, I've been over-hauling my diet after the few weeks of bad foods. One of the main meals has been breakfast and since changing I feel *much* better. Better energy - but also - I think I may have been feeling... depressed?!?! Hmm... I wouldn't have thought it but I think I had fallen into a rut over the last few weeks because of the bad eating - and now that I'm out of it - I'm able to see it a little better - because of how well I feel now. It's all a bit weird..

Hmm.. so just thinking out loud here - but based on how I've been feeling in my better eating over last even 2-3 days, I think that breakfast might be very important.

What you guys eat in general for breakfast?

Help wanted. Yep well done for going. I'd say you've conquered a fear if nothing else? I was the same when I went. I'm not too surprised by the results - but they say there's nothing wrong so lets be thankful? We'll just keep searching!

You know what Thomas Edison said...

i normally have muesli to which i add dried aprictos. in general i feel a little better and my stomach is a little better when i eat helathily but theres nevr a big difference.
excerise isnt an option for me, i get out of breath walking up a flight of stairs, if i went for a run id collapse.
yeh youre right ive conquered my fear a little but im not really glad that the results were clear becasue that means its likely to be something more serious wrong with me and it also means ill have to have lots more tests. and if i dont find out whats worng with me soon, well lets just say i dont feel like i can survive much longer.
the depression is understandable with what were going through. last week the doctro recommended i think about taking anti depressants to help my anxiety and depression and i think i mite take her up on the offer now. im really on my last legs now guys.

For a start - I would absolutely give up muesli asap. I had been taking it for ages til recently - and I feel 10 times better without it. Try a kellogs cereal of some kind - maybe something with sugar like Fruit Loops - and try with water instead of milk. Avoid bran,muesli,special-k etc: they are aimed at people who want to lose weight -guess how?! As well, they have damn all nutritional value. Take a look at the values.

Muesli has no energy and no protein! It will also mess up your toileting because that's all it does - makes you go to the toilet. You'll be hungry when you shouldn't be - and wont know why. And it's not only breakfast time it affects. It will affect you right through the day as you absorb it - probably making you go to the toilet repeatedly. So - not only do you get no energy or protein from it - you're losing other useful stuff too!! And then to make it worse - you eat the same again the following morn!!

Really - try cutting it out - even for a week or so - then see how you feel!! Try the kids cereals from kellogs - they will prob have better/more-appropriate nutritional values and are less likely to 'go through you'.

actully irish lad i disagree with everything you just said there. mueslis about the most healthy cereal out there. all the of 'sugar' cerals and kids cerals are just full of sugar and addatives. and muesli is actually very good for energy as it contains oats whcih realease energy steadily over a longer peiod of time. you will get nothign from all these sugary brand cerals just a quick sugar burst. ad bran/muesli etc may make you go to the toilet but thats becasue theyre a good source of fibre and thats a good thing! theres no way having a bowl of kids cereal is more nutritious than muesli, mueslie contains natural ingredients that are all good for you and contains fruit than thatn a load of added sugar.

but whatever i eat for breakfast it doesnt mke a hge amoutn of difference to my noises. itll take a hell of a lot more than changing my breakfast cerals to combat these noises!

oh for God's sake - what kind of an attitude is that?! "muesli is about the most healthy cereal" - well - according to who?!?! the guy that can go to work without thinking of what we have to think of? the girl that acts in quiet dramas on stage??? the people that work in libraries?!?!

yes, usually i would agree. yep the kids things are full of additives - but the point is that they are more of a snack as opposed to something that has been designed to make you go to the toilet.

Based on my post earlier - what if its the case that *we* can't digest oats or wheat or whatever the same way others can? Then all the common knowledge of muesli being good for you goes right out the window. And that's the kind of point I'm trying to make.

*our problem is not black and white* If curing our problem was about eating the purely healthy food - well then - I think yes we would all get up and have our muesli for breakfast, an apple for lunch and fish for dinner - and ta-dah the problem is cured. But I've eaten those things and im sure you have and it hasn't helped.

So yes, in general, the kid's cereal isn't good for you - but in *our* case - maybe it is?? I ate all those crappy cereals when I was a kid and I was as strong and healthy as an ox. Flipside is that maybe they caused the problem to occur years later - who knows?! All I do know is that muesli makes you go to the toilet!! Also - have a look at the nutritional values and compare your muesli with other things at the supermarket. Anyway - what's the harm? If Fruit loops or whatever were radioactive then yep stay away - but what's there to lose??!!?

Flipside to that again - *stay* on muesli for another week - and then what have you?!?! We're back to square one!

hmm that sounded like an attack but i just feel that we have to do this ourselves - theres no point in waiting around for some miracle cure!!!

ps. might I all suggest you watch a film called The Edge starring Anthony Hopkins.