Hey all, hope you're good and that the damn noises are not taking over too much. Well, my Easter hols are almost over and on Mon it will be time for me to return to the silence of the lecture halls I am absolutely dreading it. And knowing that i have to sit 5 exams in just a few weeks is bothering me even more. Roll on June...

I've been taking probiotic yogurt drinks, Acidophilus Bifidus capsules, the peppermint oil capsules given to me by my GP, as well as eating live yogurt, but no improvements. After the docotor dismissed my theory of a possible yeast overgrowth and put my noisy stomach down to IBS i resigned myself to the fact that i would just have to live with this embarassing problem.

Today, however, i have new-found hope! I was at the pharmacy buying a thrush treatment (as you may remember i said a few weeks ago that i had recently been plagued by thrush and athlete's foot, gross i know), and the pharmacist started asking questions such as how much sugar i consumed and if i drank wine. Anyway, she came to the conclusion that i was probably suffering from an overgrowth of yeast in the gut!! Exactly what i had initially thought! I told her that the GP had dismissed the possibility, even refused to acknowledge it, but she told me to go to a health food shop and pick up some Caprylic Acid, which is an anti-fungal, and to avoid sugar and yeast in my diet. So i'm going to try this and see what happens. Fingers crossed... Because the only other thing i could think of trying was some form of sound insulation (I'm with you on this one Growlgurl!). I even asked the doctor if such a thing existed, she just looked at me sceptically and continued with her IBS talk.

Just thought i would pass on this info incase anyone else has symptons similar to mine and wanted to give this a try (Type Candida Albicans into Google if you want to see a list of possible symptons). I will let you know how i get on with it.

welcome gurgle guy...
we can all relate to your story, very familiar to most of us im sure. but i dont agree with what you said about 90% of it being in our head. theresjust no way its all phycological. i agree it is a factor. but i, and i think most of the peopl on here, dont gjust get it in quiet situations, for me the times i get the noises the worst are late at night, when im finishing my shift at work and come home and go to bed, as soon as i ley down, they start, and thats not in my head, im in my own room, no one can hear. theres clearly something physical.

started eating healthy again this week, after a bit of a binge on holiday and during illness, doing ok. noises come and go, alos havnt been tsking my hcl properly so i will take more care with that. my noises are definetly better whn i eat well. i can get through most of the day ok if i eat sensibly, its just at night, after i eat my evening meal im always bloated and just feel bad, like the food just goes into me and sits there, and then after a few hours my stomachs going crazy. its like my digestive systme just doesnt work at night!

Or try typing in candidiasis. I'm pretty sure that this is the cause of my problems but there is no sure fire way to find out., and the anti-candida diet is going to be a bit of a nightmare.

I agree with Help Wanted - i can't see how these noises could be mainly psychological. I didn't used to worry about it at the start, it's only recently as they have been getting worse and more frequent that i have started to really take notice. And a lot of my noises happen early morning or late night, or when i am at home by myself and not at all stressed. I agree that stress and anxiety probably doesn't help the matter, and a lot of us have developed anxieties or what could even be bordering on phobias due to the embarassment and distress brought on my noisy abdomens, but i don't see that as being the cause.

38 pages of posts on just this one thread on a single website, and there must be so many more people out there with the same problem. And still no one takes notice! Soooo frustrating!!! PLEASE HELP US SOMEBODY!!!!

yeh I agree that this is not *all* psychological. like you guys said - i could be sitting here at the computer by myself with nothing on my mind - and then i might hear a random noise.

i will say that, for me at least, anxiety of situations/areas brings on the certain extra loud noises that you guys have mentioned. I mean I could be sitting by myself eating dinner or watching a dvd somewhere and then get joined by a group of others and sometimes I just can *feel* myself getting anxious - because I know what *might* happen noise wise - even though moments before I was fine. And then sure enough - brought on by the anxiety - I feel the pressure building!

but yes i agree - its not a 100% cause. but the fact that anxiety brings it on cant be ignored - nor can the possibility that *stress* may have started the whole thing in the beginning. Anyway thats my 2 euro-cents worth!

Welsh_girl that sounds promising. I agree that something like yeast/glutin or whatever is causing the/a/part-of-the problem...

Still no takers for the diet comparison?!?! I'm stunned

you know what i thnk is the worst part of all, the fact that my friends have no idea what im talking about, like you can try and explain it to them but they just laugh anyways and it sucks majorly!
yea a bunch of it is in the head but a bunch isnt either so who really knows!
but it would pretty much be awesome if it could stop!
i just interveiwed for a job and they made thenoises and i freaked! i was like so sory i havnt had lunch but id just eaten!
but yall seriously i recomend seeing a nutritionist! it will help completly and even if it doesnt stop forgood it helps with everything else!
but dont forget dairy can be bad for digestion, it slows things down!

I agree with a lot of what has been said recently about the 90% mental and 10% physical. Having said that, this problem could be caused not by something that we were responsible for, but by a mechanical problem, which is caused by problems in the nerves in the intestines. Either our intestines stop contracting, or they contract too much, which can be made worse depending on our stress/anxiety levels. Anyways, I'm not sure if anyone has seen this website before, but it has a lot of information about theses types of mechanical problems.

http://www.walgreens.com/library/contents. jsp?docid=000260&doctype=1

P.S. I have tried antispasmodics that prevent contractions. I have found that they have helped in reducing the pain, but not the noises. I remember reading on here that someone was given medication that causes intestinal contractions, has that helped? Thanks for reading.

glad to see people are back posting. 2cool - interesting what you said about intestines contracting, but we need to find out what it is that is making them cntract too much or little, if this is the case.
has anyone thought anymore about going to a doctor? im getting so annoyed and depressed about it all, i can see myself one day just giving in, facing my anxiety, going to the doctor and baring my soul! telling them eveything and getting a load of tests, and it all blowing up and eveyone finding out.
i would LOVE to go to the doctor, im just so terified of what they mite find, and so terrified of the tests, i dont want to end up being shoved in hospital with these noises!

Help Wanted - go to the doctor. I know it didn't get me anywhere but it all helps to raise the profile. And you never know, your GP may actually take it seriously and investiagate further. Don't be afraid to try. I'm certain it's nothing life threatening or even anything to worry about which is causing these noises. Although i was reading up on candidiasis last night and i was shcoked to learn that if left untreated it gradually wears down your immune system so drastically that it can lead to far more serious probs such as cancer and HIV!!! But i don't think that is very likely, more of a worst case scenario. But still, it did make me feel quite angry that the GP did not even bother to look into my problems. Just fobbed me off with IBS.

Irish lad - i will attempt the diet comparison with you, although i think i am going to have to try the anti-candida diet when i start with the caprylic acid. I really have no idea what that will allow me to eat - no sugar, no carbs, no starch, no yeast products, no fermented or mould foods. What is left, other than meat and fish?? Maybe i ought to see a nutritionist as mentioned above, otherwise i may end up doing more harm than good. Has anyone else tried this route?

its not as simple as that, if i wasnt so terrified id go, if i didnt have anxiety id go.
the candida diet is VERY hard, boring, and interfers withy our social life becaseu you cant go out to eat with family or friends, and you arnt supposed to drink. try looking for the book 'beath candida cookbook' by erica white. its really good, got lots of recipies. but yes it is near enough impossible. i did it striclty for amonth. for the frist few weeks i just felt constantly sick, but once i got over that it wasnt as bad, i just didnt enjoy eating, its so hard ot even being able to have the occasional treat or something as simple as bread. plus i dont think its healthy to do in the long time becasue youre missing out on valueble fibre from bread, and nutrients from fruit. but if it cures you, then its wroth it. i did feel better after a month on it, but i just coouldnt keep it up. id love to try it again but i just dont have neough time inthe day to prepare all the fresh food. and there arnt enough easy meals and snack s to eat when you need something quick to shut your stomach up.

Hi everyone, so pleased we're all back-i've missed you!

Welcome gurgleguy, im really happy you've found us-your stories are so familiar and just reading about them scares me! Its so horrible to be in those situations and i avoid them like the plague!!

Irishguy, i'd say for me it's 100% physical, the anxiety doesn't make my noises worse but the anxiety that comes with it is awful. I like your thinking though especially the part about setting yourself a challenge. I did that yesterday and went to visit family in the evening AFTER tea!! I ate little during the day and spent like an hour on the toilet before i went but i did it and had no noises (i could feel some movemetns but couldn't hear anything over the people talking). I came away on such a high! I'll do a separate post after this listing what i eat, i don't need to do 2 weeks as my diet isn't very varied so i'll just list the foods.

Coheed, my worst noises definately come from gas building up in my bum. The digestive ones don't embarress me half as much!

Growlgirl, i love the insulation idea-a stroke of genius!xx

So here's a summary of my diet, i eat a combination of the following throughout the week:

Breakfast:
Porridge oats with soya milk cooked in microwave

Dinner:
Wheat free pitta with tuna
Oat cakes with cottage cheese
Salad:lettuce, cucumber, shreaded cabbage, peppers, raddish with ham and cheese
Jacket potato
Mackrel

Tea:
Steamed vegetables: asparagus, broccli, carrots, peas, corn on the cob, green beans

Meat:grilled chicken, gammon steak, turkey fillet
Fish:cod, haddock, salmon (i eat LOTS of salmon), fish fingers

Carbs: small amount of oven chips, mashed potato, roast potato, rice

Snacks: rice crispie cereal bars, plain crisps

Pudding:natural yoghurt and honey, raisins, dried apricots.

Drinks:plain water, peppermint tea

The weekend is a different story, i make traditional meals:bolognase (with rice not pasta), cottage pie, curry, sunday roast, sausages. These meals i feel make my noises worse and when i'm feeling very naughty i eat:

Cream cakes, pizza, cheese cake, bread, pot-noodles, coke (the fizzy kind!) (processed junk basically but i pay for it the next day!)

I take a calcium supplement, vitamin b12 injections and folic acid.

I don't eat fruit-gives me an upset stomach.

Who's next .......................................... ....

HW - thanks for your feedback on the candida diet. Yes i had seen the book so i will probably buy a copy of that, but i just don't see how i will able to exclude so many different food groups from my diet in one go. I eat so much normally and even a slight reduction in my intake and i start to feel sick and fatigued. I really enjoy food and eat out quite often so it's going to be very difficult to say the least.

My tummy has been good all day but it started to hurt after dinner and now i can hear the familiar noises starting up....

welsh girl, im not going to say its easy, it really really isnt, but once you get used to it it isnt so bad, and i thinkif u really wanted to do it you could. i think i stopped because i wasnt certain i had candida and that i was actually helping myself, i could have been putting myself through all that and missing out on food for ntohgin. if there was a test and i was actually diagnosed with candida, i could do the diet easily, becasue id no it would get me better.

like i said i felt sick for the first few weeks, thats the die off reaction, and also your body adjusting to not having all the food youre used to. and you do crave it all, particularly sugar, but you forget about it a lot after a few weeks. once i got into a routine of making my meals (pretty much eating the same thing everyday) it got easier.
has anyone actually ever been tested for candida? or asked their doctor about it?

Just FYI, I did a course of Diflucan, which is a prescription antifungal, to see if anything in the yeast/fungus area might make a difference. It didn't really do anything for me. The anti-candida diet is so incredibly restrictive, I haven't thought about trying it.

well, all the information on candida tells you that just drugs wont make a difference, you need to take anti fungals and do the diet for a long time, if ur taking anti fungals but still feeding the cadida with sugar and yeat it wont do anything. but i dont know how much to belive all of the stuff u read about it so..

ok so i recently learned that our bodys can have up to 10 lbs of waste in them and the only place for that to go is in our intesines where everything collects and that the extra waste can cause pressure on our intestines and can cause them to move around trying to repositon and settle wich causes noises sometimes .
im seeing a nutritionest because i had mono and it totally ruined my digestive system and the nutritonest put me on a detox diet to get rid of excess waste and ive lost 12 inches off of my body in 5 days just by doing that and getting rid of the extra waste.
so the noises have pretty much stopped, ive been on the diet now for almost 2 weeks and the results are amazing!

livjames, thats an interesting theory. where did you get the information? what does your diet and detox involve?

ok guys this is craziness. it is 11:31 and i should be in anatomy and physiology but my sstomack was goiing crazy with noises, i couldnt skip because i had a test so i took the test in 3 minuetsl...its was a 100 question test, i didnt even read the questions i was so desperate to leave, so here i am...sitting in the library avoinding embarisment, did i mention ive missed 80 classes this semester and if i miss 85 i have to repeat the classes...im sooo depressed about this.
help me!

hellp wanted...ok i got in from my doctor and nutricionest as well as my physiology teacher, the detox diet is really easy it includes like tons of water and veggies and fruit and healthey protein, dont even think of puting anything man made like persevitives or chemicals, all natural and dont ever stop drinkinlg the water!

ive been reading about saliva tests for candida and hormones... theyre very expensive, but im considereing them, at least id no once and for all then!