Noisy Abdomen (Page 33)

i didnt say you had to have chrons, i just said most of the people on the site that was linked had crohns which is what was causing their strictues. the site you linked also lists many causes for stomach noise... i just cant get my head around that being the casue, i dont think it adds up for me

I don't think a stricture is the cause of everyones noises but for me, it could explain a lot. I've made an appointment with my gastro consultant for Monday so i will let you all know how it goes. Please keep your fingers crossed for me as im really hoping for some answers. I dont think for a second they'd operate for some noises but i'd just like to understand what's going on. Please again, no-one panic that they've got bowel disease-you would definately know about it if you did, i was severly ill when mine was active and noises were the absolute least of my problems but as xxcoolxx pointed out maybe a stricture due to another cause could be the problem for some.

We're all just thinking out loud here so lets keep the ideas coming.

Hey HP, I find it interesting that you too mentioned that you found research supporting the TOO LITTLE stomach acid. That is what much of my book is about. I should keep reading... The antacid that you mentioned, is that over the counter?

Jen, I just wrote an email to the dad asking about positions that can align the spine or relieve pressure. And, I've been trying to look up some more, but I just cannot seem to find where. But, for you, I have decided to look into Yoga! haha. I figured that that could be a decent way to go, I know it was something related that I was looking at. There is a website called Women's Fitness and it's at a .net. Just type it all together. They speak about Yoga poses for the stomach to relieve gas, bloating, etc. I think I started looking into this because of a digestion tea that I drink had a Yoga suggestion on the back for easier digestion, and it seemed to help.

So, please look into those, they sound worthwhile and easy! I'm going to give them a shot, I always feel better with my stomach when I'm doing something physically active for it. I"ll keep looking for what I was finding before!

Coolx, I'm hoping that you research isn't worthwhile, purely because I cannot stand the thought of surgery for this... !

Okay, Jen, my dad wrote back. He said there isn't any foolproof way to do much for your back in that sense, but he says Yoga is a great idea in terms of stretching, relaxing, muscle, stress reduction and blood pressure. So.. I'm going to give those a shot, that kind of exercise circulates blood more easily and thoroughly to your body (stomach) and can assist in avoiding that "peristalsis" that I keep seeing pop up on these websites.

hey coheed, what im taking isnt anitacid, its the opposite, its actually stomach acid.. (or something like it) its called Betaine Hydrochloride(HCL) With Pepsin. i got them from my local health food store but i dont know where your from so i dont know where you could get them, but they are available online
i took my first one tonight with my meal, and i got no burning which is a good sign, it didnt really make a diference. so i need to try the next dose.... heres the information for testing them...

When using Betaine HCL with Pepsin for the first few times, please be sure to follow the directions carefully. Always take Betaine HCL at the start of the meal! If taken without food, stomach burning may result.

1. At the very start of the meal, take one capsule of Betaine HCL. Monitor how your stomach feels during and after eating. Should any burning or heaviness occur, or if burning has been present previously (before taking the supplement) and is now worsened with the use of the Betaine HCL, do not continue using this supplement!!! This is an indication that your stomach is overproducing acid, or that your stomach lining may be damaged. In such cases, please consider the use of Alkabase, Gastric Complex-HP and/or Mastica, to normalize excess acid production and heal the stomach lining.

2. If the first dose of Betaine HCL provided no noticeable stomach discomfort, try taking two capsules at the start of your next meal, again monitor for burning and or heaviness during and after eating. If taking two capsules produces some discomfort, but one capsule does not, restrict yourself to one capsule at the start of each meal. If the two capsule dose produced no discomfort, try three capsules at the start of your next meal.

3. If all goes well when taking three capsules at the start of each meal, stay with that dosage, most individuals will not require increasing the dosage to four capsules. Regular use of supplemental hydrochloric acid will in most cases "re-train" the stomach to produce higher concentrations of acid on its own. This process may take anywhere from several weeks to several months, depending on the individual. The most significant indication that acid production is improving is that Betaine HCL supplementation can no longer be comfortably tolerated.

if you want all the rest of the information that goes with the test then you need 'modernherbalist' and follow through digestive problems, then stomach problems then low acid

happy reading!

Thanks ever so much coheed, your a star. I never thought of yoga, i'll definately look into it-could do with doing some excersise!! I managed to find some stuff about posture and sleeping which was helpful but it sounds like yoga is a great idea. Thankyou for asking your dad too, it was very good of him to take the time to answer.

HW, forgot to say that im in wales. Where are you? Goodluck with the HCL, i really hope to works for you.

No problem, Jen. I wish I had been able to find more, but this seems to be a pretty isolated symptom/cure runabout we have here. I hope something works, I'm excited to try some yoga..

Ah, thanks HP. I can't keep these names straight from all this! I would like to try this idea of the acid, please let me know if you notice improvement or anything of the sort! I should be able to find something along the lines in one of my health food stores if I can find a minute to drive out there. I have not eaten much or well this week, just have not had time to go food shopping.

This is all so frustrating! Ah. And a side note, I've been considering a relationship lately, and I'm starting to feel the stress and anxiety come on, not because he makes me nervous, but because I feel that my stomach will act up, and the thought of those noises and that general discomfort is devastating to my mentality. I understand a bit more how you feel now, Coast and you all who have discussed your relationship and proximity issues.

Hello Everyone,

I'm glad to see all the great postings. I really agree with the Yoga, not that me (a guy) would do that, but I'm going to hit the gym and start running again. I felt so much better once I got excercising and I have to say this helped with my stomach noises. I remember one time I ran 1.5 miles for lunch and drank like 3 water bottles and I did not hear one noise. I just got my gym membership at 24 hour fitness and it was cheap, $250 for the whole year.

I wanted to let everyone know that I bought a box of Pepcid AC and WOW this made my stomach make CRAZY noises the next day. I know I bought a box and I don't want to throw it away, but I may try to take another pill at a later day.

I have been going to the Vitamin shoppe and buying quite a bit of stuff and I keep taking different things. I find that taking garlic pills helps me and allows me to burp (pretty loud), but my stomach feels better after I do this. HAHA it's funny to hear me walking around the house before work burping like crazy and then burping in the car on the way to work. I have to say if I feel decent in the morning and when I take my pills and eat oatmeal (with water) in the morning I feel good until lunch time.

The problem comes up when I have lunch and I eat something I shouldn't. I'm going to have to go back to my strict Candida diet. I remember eating subway with a sweet iced tea and my stomach made some slight noises after eating that. If I eat something bland with water I usually don't hear anything.

I'm going to see my GI on Monday and I'm going to let him know about the Pepcid AC thing and about how my stomach goes wild with glutens and sugar. Good luck everyone

I wish we all lived near to eachother, we could all go to a noisy pub and sit around brain storming and we could go to yoga or the gym together!! I'm going to make more of an effort to walk my dog. My hubbie takes her everyday and i go about 3 times a week., i should really go more, get the blood flowing to my belly, even just 5 or 10 minutes would help.

Relationships are a tricky one with this aren't they. I feel lucky that i've got all that dating stuff out of the way but i managed it even with the noises and zero support. I dated a few different blokes before meeting my husband. I remember one lad thought i was buliemic or anorexic or something as i hardly ate when i was with him then would spend ages in the loo and of course i'd get the noises. He was a kn*bhead though so ha ha ha, i don't care what he thought!!!

My advice would be to take things slowely, arrange dates in situations where you are comfortable to begin with and if things start to progress maybe have a little chat that you have stomach problems or even write a letter (that's what i did when i got serious with my husband).

When you meet 'the one' all this goes out the window, when you're so in love with someone that you couldn't be without them, the noises will not matter anymore, they'll love you for you and won't careless what noises you produce!! I do get embarressed around my husband still, it's a natural human reaction when you sound like you're about to explode but i know that he loves me no matter what.

Don't put your life on hold because of this, just adapt it the best you can and coheed, you're obviously a wonderful person, someone would be lucky to have you and they'll realise that! Just go for it!

Do you work in an office eric? The only thing i can eat at lunch which gives me less noise is oatcake and cottage cheese-VERY boring!! No subways for me!!

Haha yeah, Jen. That sounds ideal, having stomach buddies to do the normal things we can't. Walking your dog more often is a great idea, I used to do that but time is difficult to coordinate, and without a park, it's dangerous. Either way, it's also a good time to "get away", I think you could use.

I really appreciate your advice, I know this forum isn't about relationships, but considering how much my stomach affects my life, I have to wonder how other people can manage to get through it. I have already had someone ask me if I'm annorexic because I don't eat around people when I will have to spend lots of time with them, etc. You seem very happy, Jen! I'm so glad to hear that. Makes me hopeful haha. Except, this person has a knack of standing me up when we are supposed to get together, so maybe I won't have to worry about the relationship yet after all. He would be a Kn*bhead? Haha

So, thankyou again Jen, I can't really express again how great it is to feel like there are other people to talk to even about the most trivial stomach issues.

Hey everyone

I was just wondering does everyone here have a pet? like a dog? I hate to even think my dog is partly the root to my stomach problem, but it seems when I'm away from my dog my stomach problems are not as bad. I know I go back to LA like every 2 months and when I go over there I notice that I don't really get stomach noises. This could also be caused by climate (humidity) changes, since Houston is so humid compared to LA.

Well I'm going to see my GI tomorrow and I hope things go better this time. I will tell him to test me for Candida or GERD and see what he says.

Well I'll see how this office visit goes and if I don't feel any better I'll make another appointment for the following week or try to see another GI. Well I'll keep you guys updated, good luck, Eric

Hey everyone

I was just wondering does everyone here have a pet? like a dog? I hate to even think my dog is partly the root to my stomach problem, but it seems when I'm away from my dog my stomach problems are not as bad. I know I go back to LA like every 2 months and when I go over there I notice that I don't really get stomach noises. This could also be caused by climate (humidity) changes, since Houston is so humid compared to LA.

Well I'm going to see my GI tomorrow and I hope things go better this time. I will tell him to test me for Candida or GERD and see what he says.

Well I'll see how this office visit goes and if I don't feel any better I'll make another appointment for the following week or try to see another GI. Well I'll keep you guys updated, good luck, Eric

I've always had pets while i was a child; dogs, cats, rabbits, guniea pigs etc. Now we have a dog and some gold fish. I don't think my dog has any effect on this problem and i don't think it's the fishes! He he!

Good luck with the GI eric, keep at him!

Coheed, i am generally a happy person and i know im very blessed. These noises are the only thing that get me down and it's work where it effects me the most. I have to sit in a silent office for a minimum of 3 hours everyday and it really gets to me but as soon as im home it's like a weight lifts and i can be 'me' again. This problem has really made me see what's important in life. I'd love not to work or have a non-office job or ideally NO NOISES!!

ps, that lad does sound a bit kn*bby, how dare he stand you up!! If ever you (or anyone else here) wants to talk about the stuff like this off forum you can always email me. I don't know if i'd have to put my address on here or if there's a link?

I've been with my current girlfriend for about 9 months now. When we first started dating, I was mortified at the idea of a relationship. My previous girlfriend and I had broken up a few months before my noises started, so I had no idea how I would deal with the noises in a relationship environment. The first weeks were difficult. Going to the movies difficult, but somehow I got through it. I did the things that help me the most (tums smoothies, green tea). Mostly though, I took her on dates where there was plenty of noise (lol? ). We went ice skating, outdoor miniature golf, parties that my friends hosted, the beach etc. Basically, I took her places where I could be myself without the worry of the noises. As our relationship grew, and the noises slowly started to creep into the relationship (the first time I slept over, for example), we were already at the point where things like the noises weren't completely devastating for me. Embarrassing yes, but not like "were on our first date and this guy is a complete weirdo" type thing haha. After 9 months, the noises are definitely a nuisance, but she loves me for me and she now knows of my stomach problems. The funny thing I've noticed is that she also gets stomach noises sometimes. Definitely not at the severity that we get them, but they are there nonetheless. The first time I heard her noises, she just simply said "thats me digesting," and for me, that was a huge weight off of my shoulders...knowing that it wasn't just me that made weird noises. heh. Despite all of that, though, she still doesn't know the severity of my problem, and so she still encourages me to do things that I know I will have problems doing (getting an office job, for example). I'm sure at some point I'll have to tell her.

anyway, I hope that gives you a little more insight coheed. The one thing I CAN tell you for sure is that if you have an opportunity, go for it. I KNOW how hard that can be...because I was in the same situation. SHE was actually the one who asked me out, and there was a point where I had to decide whether to go or not. It was very difficult for me to say yes, but I did, and 9 months later were still together.

hey everyone....
going to start the hcl properly today so ill keep you updated on what happens...
ha, thats a good idea.... if we could start a noisy stomach club and all work in the same office! i also thought once that a surefire way to solve this would be for all of us to get together, eat a massize fatty meal so were making lots of noise and all go and sit in the doctors officE! see if they take notice of us then! haha

on the relationship front... ive been with my boyfriend for 3 years now, i had noises before i met him, they have gradually got worse over the years but they were still a big problem when i met him. ive never spoken to him about it but he knows i have a noisey stomach and he just accepts it, he rarely says anythign when its noisey we just ignore it, and of course i do everything to try and stop the noises. plus his stomach makes noise sometimes, nowhere near the problem hat we have though.
but i think you should just go for it, if they really like you theyll just get used to the noises and not worry. and if youre brave enough, explain to them that its a medical problem and something you cant control, and they mite not think its so wierd. but yeh, you should go for it, if they run away becasue of it then its their loss, they obviously arn thte one for you! good luck.
by the way pix, im in bristol, so not far from you, surpised you cant hear my noises there in wales!!

does anyone know if you can create a thread linked to this one or an information archive or something...
id like to have a place where we can post stomach friendly recipies and tips...
has anyone found that tea helps them? ive heard peppermint and fennel are meant to be good for digestion

Ha Ha Ha HW, im in north wales so maybe a little too far for me to hear but i'll keep my ear to the ground!! I've tried peppermint tea and it didn't really make much difference but it's quite refreshing so no harm in trying. One thing to note though is that you should drink it before eating, on an empty stomach or it'll make digestion worse. I can't stand fennel so don't know about that one.

I think we could do with a website really. I know that was suggested ages ago but we could have sections on relationships, recipes, medications, alternative therapy, yoga and excersise. I would love to set that up but i have absolutely no clue how to go about it, i do well to just log on!!

You know, in all the years we've been together i have never sat down and spelt this problem out to my husband. Im like you HW, we've kind of just ignored it. He knows all about my crohn's and how that effects me (that's when i wrote the letter) but he's just kind of accepted this. He doesn't know the extent that this effects me though as like your girlfriend, coast, he still suggests thing that i can't do. I just make an excuse!!

Well, i saw my consultant today and he had a prod at my stomach. It was making some noise but he just shrugged it off as nothing-RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! To be fair though i really didn't get across to him how much this was affecting me. Im going to tell him everytime i go now and hopefully he'll eventually get the hint that this is a problem.

haha ok...
yeh a wbsite would be relly good but a lot of work and someone would have to pay for it... im a grphic designer but im not doing web design yet.
its a shame becasue it would be useful

Hello Everyone,

Well I just wanted to update you guys on how my visit went with my GI. I informed the doctor of the candida diet that I'm on. I also informed him that I have lost about 20 pounds in the last 4 months since being on this diet, but that I feel fine. He asked me what I eat and I stated that I usually have oatmeal with water and a banana in the morning, chicken with veggies and then like meat or seafood with veggies in the evening. I also told him that I take about 20 pills (supplements) a day. He stated that this is not "normal", which I was thinking no * Edited for profanity sherlock. He said that I should eat a normal diet and that I should lay off the supplements for a while (a month) and see if I still have the same problem. He suggested that I see an alleragist, to see if I am allergic to anything.

He gave me some Pamine and said that this may help with my stomach noises. I said that I took reglan and that it instigated the problem. He said that Pamine slows down stomach contractions and that Reglan speeds up stomach contractions. I took my first pill this morning and right after I took it I heard a noise, but it's been about an hour later and I have not heard anything, since that incident.

Well I'm going to continue to take these pills and make an appointment with an allergist and see if I can learn something new. I'll keep you guys updated of any new information. Take care, Eric

Jen, Coast, HP, I really appreciate you guys writing about your relationships. I am glad that you all are in the situations that you are, you seem very lucky. I can understand though, people just don't quite seem to understand the full extent of the problems, no matter how we speak of them. But, I do appreciate the time taken to reassure me, I really, haha It's just another aspect of this problem that weighs on me. I can't respond to much that you have said, but trust me when I say I read it all to heart.

Jen, it's too bad about the GI, our stomachs always seems to be calm when we visit. I liked HP's idea, we go have some fun and then we can all go sit in an office and say WHAT NOW? haha. See what they say then...

I think another website would be a great idea, but I have no idea how that works.... I feel there are ways to get free domains, but like HP said, I'm not certain how the actual webdesign process goes. And HP, have you noticed a difference yet with HCL? I do drink a tea that contains fennel, and there is a digestive pill that I take with Fennel in it. I'm not incredibly fond of the taste, but it's out there if you look for it.

Glad to hear of your GI visit Eric. It at least sounds like this GI is not quite blowing you off yet. Let us know how that treatment goes that he asked you to try.

Also.. I haven't done well with noises lately, I'm hoping it's just stress and my lack of food-shopping time...