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ericr747
on January 1st, 2008
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Hello Coheed,


Some things that I have found that are tacos, oatmeal with water, baked salmon, salads, steak with veggies, chicken with veggies, any seafood.

I really like shrimp, and garlic shrimp are great. As everyone knows garlic is great for you and it's good to use against candida.

I get shrimp, garlic, garlic powder, some scallions (green onions), and butter.

Place the butter in the sauce pan and add the garlic and simmer a bit and then add the onions. Simmer a bit and add a tad bit of garlic powder and then add the shrimp and cover and simmer for a bit. Don't overcook as the shrimp can become tough.

You can eat the shrimp with some sauted veggies or a salad.


I like to make my own salad dressing, since we can not consume vinegar. I got a mixing bottle and add some fresh lime juice, olive oil, garlic powder, salt, italian seasoning (oregano, thyme, etc.), and a bit of salad supreme. Don't add too much lime juice if you don't like your dressing too acidic. Place in the refrigerator and let it thicken up a bit and then shake and pour over your salad. You can add red onion, carrots, cucumbers, tomatoes to your salad, which tastes great.

You can pretty much steam any veggie, carrots, squash, eggplant, broccoli. Just place in a steaming dish with some Mrs. Dash and garlic powder and your set to go.


I also like to make baked salmon. You just need to get a dish for the salmon (I prefer Sockeye Salmon) and place the salmon in the dish. Get a glass cup and place some butter in there with some italian seasoning, chopped fresh garlic, some garlic powder and I know we shouldn't but a tad bit of soy sauce. Place in the oven covered with aluminum foil and bake at 350 for about 20 minutes and take the foil off and bake for another 10 minutes. You can also eat this with some veggies or a salad.


Tacos, I prefer to go to the authentic places, since they use tortillas made fresh from corn meal. If they make the tortillas fresh, then your stomach will be fine, but sometimes if they use the store bought ones, they can affect your stomach.

Breakfast -

I like to eat oatmeal in the morning, but with water. I get some quaker oats and add some water and place it in the microwave for about a minute and 30 seconds, depending on the microwave. Once it's done I add some powder cinnamon. If this doesn't please your palate, then get a banana and cut it into small slices in a bowl and pour the quaker oats over with some water and then cook in the microwave for about 2 minutes. After it's done you can smash the bananas a bit more and add some cinnamon powder. I try to shy away from this, since the banana has some sugar, but it doesn't really bother me.


Eggs, there are plenty of ways to make eggs. You can get some garlic and cook it a bit and add some finely chopped onions and then add some eggs and stir in and cook.

You can also try doing the same thing, but adding some ham with the eggs, but add the ham with the garlic and before the onions.

You can also add things like bell peppers, chiles (if you want to make it spicy) and tomatoes.

You can even have like over and easy eggs with salsa (tomatoes, onions, cilantro, garlic). If you buy the salsa at the store, look at the ingredients and make sure everything looks natural or make your own.



There are plenty of things we can eat, but the part that sucks is that it seems soo limited, especially if you have to go to school or work. I will try to post some other recipes on here, since I like to cook.



I highly recommend cleaning out your colon a bit and going with Paragone or Candigone and maintaining a Candida diet. I know my stomach goes wild whenever I have sugar and since I LOVE sweets, this really sucks. I have also lost some weight I went from 165 to 158, and I'm 5'11, which isn't a lot, but I guess cutting down on the sweets has helped.


The OxyPowder seems to be doing very well. Sorry to mention this after all the recipes, but I am having like 5 bowl movements everyday, when I take the pills the night before. I think I will take some Candigone and Paragone for like 5 days straight and then 2 days colon cleansing, to flush everything out and try out different methods. As I was reading in different articles, you have to try different methods and different products, because the Candida can become immune to certain methods with repeated use. After I start to feel better, I'll see a doctor to make sure I'm still healthy from doing this. Well I wish everyone the best of luck and please post any recipes and any methods you are taking that work for you. Thanks, Eric
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jen07
replied on January 1st, 2008
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Some great ideas ericr, thanks! Sending you lots of luck with your colon cleanses. I still don't know if this is a candida problem with me but eating so well can surely only be a good thing, im actually starting to not miss bread/cakes/pasta etc even pototoes which i've cut right down on.

I've come to realise that i have to go all or nothing with this. I had some fudge for xmas and today i thought 'i'll just have one tiny cube to taste' well, 10 minutes later i'd polished off the whole bloody packet! Not good!!

I've found a practitioner in my home town who does food allergy testing so i'm going to look into that. He also tests for candida. I think if i got a 'yes, you've got it' i'd feel more positive about the new diet. It just feels so drastic at the moment!

I'm really getting into this healthy living stuff though, i'm going to look into meditation as stress is a terrible thing and we all know how much anxiety these noises cause!

Do you know what my main motivation is and no-one knows this but i'd love to start a family in the next couple of years and if i could get on top of this first i'd be the happiest person alive!! It's now or never for me as i can imagine with a baby to care for all this would be put on the self so 2008 as the year to really tackle this for me. If i can't find a solution, well, at least i've had a good go and while life is tough with these noises, im still very blessed.

Im so sorry, i've gone into a total ramble! Thanks for reading,if you got this far!!x

Ps, today, i've had no bowel movement as we had friends staying over and they've only just left, i've been busting to go all day but had very few noises!! What's that all about?!! Perplexing!!
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ericr747
replied on January 1st, 2008
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Hey Jen,

I am glad to hear that you are going to see the doctor. I think that is the best thing to do, which is to get tested for Candida. I think I will also do the same and seek a doctor that tests for Candida or IBS. Please keep us posted on what your doctor tells you, if you have Candida or not.

Jen, after you ate the brownies did your stomach start to make noises?
I know one time at work I ate some pie and my stomach started with the noises shortly there after.

There are so many things that all of us want to do, but these noises really take their toll into our lives. I really want to go to law school, but I don't want to get in and drop out, because of these noises. For the time being I'll just work and work on getting rid of these noises. I am glad to hear that you are planning to have a family Jen, but I guess it may be good to wait a bit. I mean if you are on special diets it might not be good on the baby, when your pregnant.

As for some more recipes, I guess like home made beef and chicken soup. Fish tacos are also pretty easy and tasty to make and you can also make shrimp tacos.

I made some Chinese eggplant with garlic sauce and that tasted pretty good, but I had to put in some soy sauce, which isn't good for people on a candida diet.

I've also been eating those Activa yogurts and those seem to help and my stomach doesn't seem to make noises after I eat them. I've also been taking some bentonite, which I read was good to help clean ones colon. I took it with water, sea salt, lemon, which is good as a natural laxative. The odd part was that I didn't need to use the restroom after drinking that.

I don't know why, but after I take Pau D' Arco, my stomach really starts to make noises, which I guess can be a good thing. Well I'll keep you guys posted and I wish you guys all the best. Happy New Year and I hope this will be a GREAT Year for all of us, with our stomach noises.
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coheed
replied on January 1st, 2008
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thankyou Marre, and especially jen and eric for your extensive recipes! I really am excited to try some of these as I've been having trouble sticking to a diet that I still do not quite know as much about.

I have taken a break from my colon cleanser and have actually had no noises... so I am wondering about that, and maybe if I should try a different one.

Eric, are you going to try the Paragone and Candigone at the same time? Also, how long do you take the Oxypowder for?

I should also mention, while I have been taking a break on the colon cleanser, I have been keeping up with my digestive enzymes and relatively healthier eating ( I know how the brownie thing goes, jen haha), and have had no noises like I said.

As for the New Year, my resolution is to stick with this as well. I hope we can all get around this eventually so that I can take on a Masters degree and work without hassle, and eric with Law school and Jen with a family... So silly that something like this could hold us back from so much. But, I know exactly what you guys mean when you say that if we could JUST solve this, my life would (despite being life) be flawless.
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jen07
replied on January 2nd, 2008
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Eric-Yes i had noises after the fudge but i literally get noises ALL the time except for the mornings, if i follow my routine :0(
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ericr747
replied on January 2nd, 2008
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Coheed,

I am glad to hear that you are not having any stomach noises, that is great to hear. Which colon cleanser are you taking? I have heard that it's not too good to keep taking colon cleansers for an extensive period. With OxyPowder it's a 7 day program, but you start with 4 pills and work up 2 pills everyday until you reach 3-5 bowl movement. Once you reach 3-5 bowl movements the 7 day program starts once you have achieved the required bowl movements.

I think I will try to take Paragone and Candigone at seperate times, because I don't want overload on pills and have them get washed out in my stool. From what I hear it's best to alternate, so I don't know I may do Paragone one week then stop and do Candigone the next week and just go like that, until I've completed both boxes. I don't know how effective this will be, but I guess it wouldn't hurt trying it like that. I just remember speaking with this guy over the phone and he was saying that when trying to rid your body of parasites you also have to target the eggs. He was saying that you could do 5 days on and 2 days off or something like that, to save pills. I think I will try doing each box for one week and do like a colon cleanse on the weekend on every other week or something.

I also bought a whole bunch of other pills and I'll probably just take those while I take the Paragone and Candigone.

I have to say that I have been feeling better and I hope I stay like this. I think a good colon cleanser is a good idea and I'm really interested to know which one you are using Coheed. I've also head that drinking a glass of water with 2-3 teaspoons of sea salt can also flush out your colon. I've also read about taking epsom salt, but I don't know, which one works better. I tried taking 2 teaspoons of sea salt with lime and bentonite and I didn't have a bowl movement, so I'm sure if I should just take the water and salt alone.

Coheed I am glad to hear that you plan to get your masters, are you planning to get it online? I was going so crazy with these stomach noises and I was going to get a masters at Michigan State in education, just to do something until I got into law school. I know Florida State also has some online programs, as well as many other schools.

I think that we should all try to consume more oatmeal, since I was reading it's great for the colon.

Well good luck to everyone and I wish the best to everyone. Ahhh how I wish we didn't have this problem.
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jen07
replied on January 2nd, 2008
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Having a very 'quiet' evening, had baked cod wrapped in bacon, steamed broccli, peas, carrots and cabbage and i've had very little gas. Starting to feel hungry again though!! Plus (dont tell anyone) i ate another packet of fudge!! Ooops! They were looking at me and then jumped in my mouth! There's no more left in the house now though so im safe and will definately not be buying any!
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Coast
replied on January 2nd, 2008
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The first week I took Candigone I kept a strict and healthy diet, and I felt much better. However, the last week or so I have succumbed to holiday foods and haven't felt as good. My new year's resolution is the same as some of you guys...to keep up with the healthy diet.

As for the education thing...I'm in the same boat as you eric (and coheed). I'm still currently an undergrad, and I'm having such a difficult time finishing (and doing well). I'm trying to get good grades so I can eventually get into a decent graduate program, but it's so ridiculous to me that I have to think of it in terms of 'when I finally get rid of my stomach noises.' Like you, eric, I too have looked into online masters programs etc. This is such a terrible condition and I hope we can all get to the bottom of it soon...
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replied on January 3rd, 2008
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Yep, I'm aware of the stress/cortisol/immune system connection. I wasn't really talking about normal job/life stress levels...I was just curious if, for instance, we had all been through some awful traumatic experience that totally overloaded the system or something. It doesn't appear that that is the case. I am, however, going to go to an endocrinologist and see if I can get all those hormone levels checked just because...well, at this point, why not? I think we all feel the same way in that we're willing to explore just about anything as long as it might help us.

As for the 'candida' diagnosis...I've seen that advertised all over the web, but I remain skeptical. For one thing, that spit test is going to return a 'positive' result 99.99% of the time, and for another, candida is a common presence in many healthy people's GI system. Having said that, however, I bought some Candigone and I'll give it a try in a couple of weeks. As I say, even if I'm skeptical, anything is worth a try.

I've also been going to physical therapy for something my GI Doc suggested called 'pelvic floor dysfunction'. The theory there is that the muscles of the pelvic floor might be out of whack and causing these spasms. This is also something I'm also a little skeptical about, but what the heck? I might as well try. The physical therapy people (of course) tell me that it will be a couple months before we know if it's working, so I'll just keep going and let you guys know how it goes.

Anyway, good luck to everybody, and keep the information coming. This forum is a really helpful investigative tool, and I'm glad we're all exploring as many different options as we can. It'll be a great day when someone posts 'The noises are gone! Do XYZ and they'll be gone!'.
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replied on January 3rd, 2008
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On a related note, someone recently suggested to me the possibility that somehow a spinal nerve has become irritated and is causing the spasms. This caught my eye because I did, in fact, herniate a disc in my spine a long time ago. Anyone else with a history of back problems/injury?

I'm just spitballing here, but I think it's a great idea to look for common themes among us.
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marre
replied on January 3rd, 2008
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Thumb, everyday the reading gets more informative with ideas and hopefully answers.
I injured my back 5 years ago in a car accident. That is hard to connect with the stomach sounds for me. (who do you know that does not have a back problem of some type!)
Two years ago I had a stool test done, this was after some search for an answer to my problem, this was after they suggested IBS. The test came back as postive for a high level of yeast present.

So when I started the CandiGone treatment, it made sense. And it worked and works everytime I have a re lapse. The crumie thing is having to watch your diet so close to stay feeling good.

I never liked taking any type of drugs and prefer to let my body work naturally, that is why when I hear of some of you doing the colon cleanses all the time I tend to worry, are you removing all natural good linings as well, and does you body ever get a chance to rebuild its natural linings. I have always heard seasonal cleansing is good, but too often can't be good.

I know we all have different levels of problems, and I have to read around the stuff that I know nothing about.

I will still keep an eye on this forum for the answer to what can I add to my diet to keep the over growth of yeast at bay. Something in my body can't natually control it anymore so it needs help.

The probotics really have helped and the diet. Adding them daily is so much better than living with the awful sounds everyday.

Continued sucess to everyone.
Marre
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coheed
replied on January 4th, 2008
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Tumb, I'm not sure if this contributes much, but one of my parents is a Spinal surgeon and I feel that if it were a spine-related issue, they would have been inclined to mention it to me. However, it was much more emphasized on my lack of healthy eating, medicinal intakes, and stress. However, it could NEVER hurt to look into, like you've said ... we're all looking for everything. Also, I think the other thing you mentioned, I have found that when I lie on the floor and stretch my arms straight over my head and take deep breaths, slow, I feel almost like I can work the noises away a bit. Maybe it's psychological, or a stress reducer .. but it is a sort of calming for me.

Coast, Eric, I know it's terrible to say... but it's nice to know that we are in a similar boat (misery loves company, right?). Eric, my masters is NOT available online, though trust me.. I take every online class that I can as it is. ... but this will entail QUIET programs, small rooms ... all that great stuff. It's just that my real career education cannot begin without this program ... so I have no option. I have to go.

However, Coast, I feel that I will struggle more with finishing my undergrad because these classes are short periods with strangers. As where as the master's (at least mine) will be a small group of people who you see for 2 years, every day. I find myself more at ease when I get used to my classmates ... I'm more worried about the NOW than the future
.. but I have felt GREAT these past few days.. and all I've been doing is moderating my eating (I may get short noises if I ate something obviously bad .. like fudge... haha..) and taking my digestive enzymes.

I'm worried though about classes coming up ... and it's silly, because I know the noises will start by pure stress and fear of noises. I may start Paragone again since that never failed me.

And last, eric .. the Oxypowder .. is it safe to take during school days, or would you recommend waiting until I have a day of no commitments? I'm not sure what to expect, but I definitely would like to completely a cleanser program.
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jen07
replied on January 5th, 2008
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Hi all,

I have a question-you know some of us are trying a no/low carb diet and we've all said how porridge oats are good for us? Well, do these count as a carb that we should be trying to avoid? Marre, maybe you could help me answer that? I've done really well on no carbs the past couple of days but am struggling not to get hungry so am filling up on porrdge (2 small bowls a day).

I've also started on MANUKA HONEY, it has antimicrobial and bacterial properties and is really nice mixed in with the offending porridge or with warm water. Do a search on it-some very interesting reading to be found!
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marre
replied on January 5th, 2008
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jeno7 I would be happy to offer suggestions.

As you know for two years I have changed my eating habits. I eat very few simple carbs. The only oatmeal I eat is steel cut and I have that with rice milk. I need to keep my gulten levels down, because that tiggers the noises and we all know what that means, well to me it means I am feeding the yeast in my system.

For breakfast I have eggs sometimes I add a meat item to it, or I will have tuna or chicken salad, no toast unless is is the gulten free bread that I mentioned early. After a few days, you will not get hungry. Use almonds as a snack in between meals, I also will have fruit as a snack, but low sugar fruits, like green apples.

Nuts, veggies and fruits are good sources of fiber and good carbs. You want to stay away from carbs that turn into to sugars, those are just empty calories.

I do allow my self a chocolate brownie, but it has to be sinfully good for me to risk eating it, but I manage to do it at least once a week. And I do eat a good quality dark chocolate as a treat also.

I know everyone has to do their own thing, but I really believe watching what you eat will help. And remember coffee makes you hungry too, the caffinee is what does it.

I still want to try adding oregano oil to my daily supplements, but need to find out how much to take and in what form.

Hope this helps.
Marre
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ericr747
replied on January 5th, 2008
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Well I'm glad to see that everyone is posting new ideas on here. I have recently just started on the Candigone and I feel better. Last night I had some pizza and wine and now I'm kicking myself. I took the Candigone at like 5:00 AM, I don't know why I woke up so early and then I took the OxyPowder at around 7:00 AM. I have to say that my stomach felt a lot better after taking the Candigone. I'm going to stay on the Candigone for a week and do the Oxypowder on the weekends. I think I'll stop taking the Oxypowder in about 2 weeks, since its probably not that good to take them frequently. I am going to alternate between Candigone and Paragone every week and I hope this helps me out.


Coheed, I think it would be best to take OxyPowder on days you do not have any commitments. The problem with these pills is that you never know when you need to go and if you were to run out class to use the restroom it may look rather strange. If there are restrooms near and if you feel comfortable using them at school or where ever you may be, then I would say take them daily for a week.

Coheed, I know what you mean about being in a small room with several students during classes. I enrolled into seminar classes at my university and although I was always FREAKING out about my stomach it never really made any noises. My stomach really didn't start to make LOUD noises until I graduated and came back from a trip to Asia.



Jen, I think Oats with Water are great in the morning and they keep my stomach settled until noon, when I start to get hungry. I usually just drink water and some fiber pills and that settles my stomach for a bit longer. I haven't added any honey, but I can deal with the cardboard taste.

Well if you haven't already tried it I would try taking some Candigone. I really think colon cleansing can be beneficial if taking initially and if you replace what has been washed out with good bacteria (probiotics). What I am trying to do is flush everything out (good and bad) and then replenish my body with as much good bacteria as I can. I am also taking all the pills I have to try and kill off any remaining bad bacteria (candida).

jen07 wrote:
Hi all,

I have a question-you know some of us are trying a no/low carb diet and we've all said how porridge oats are good for us? Well, do these count as a carb that we should be trying to avoid? Marre, maybe you could help me answer that? I've done really well on no carbs the past couple of days but am struggling not to get hungry so am filling up on porrdge (2 small bowls a day).

I've also started on MANUKA HONEY, it has antimicrobial and bacterial properties and is really nice mixed in with the offending porridge or with warm water. Do a search on it-some very interesting reading to be found!
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jen07
replied on January 5th, 2008
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Thanks for the replies marre and eric. I think i'll stick with the porrigde as im allergic to nuts and eggs so feel i need something to fill me up a bit, especially in the morning.

Eric, im very reluctant to try anything that will 'flush' me as i have crohn's and desperately dont want to upset it so im sticking with dietry changes to begin with. I might feel brave enough to try something like paragone etc, one day and it's great to hear your updates. Another factor is that i'm in the UK and it's very difficult and expensive to get hold of.
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coheed
replied on January 5th, 2008
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Thanks Eric ... I guess I may just try them on weekends. Good thing I have three-day weekends for now, that may be nice...

Jen, you have been seeing your doctor? Have they had any new news for you?
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jen07
replied on January 6th, 2008
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No not yet coheed, im so nervous about it-because ive kept this to myself so much i've managed to build it into a massive deal and im really anxious, i will book an appointment this week, i've put it off for so long it's getting stupid now! I must be brave!
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coheed
replied on January 7th, 2008
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Ah, yes but reasonable, Jen ... It's a hard thing, and you never know what they will tell you and want to do to you. But, be brave haha, it will be worth it if you can figure it out, right?

Also, I was able to go to the movies last night. A Full theatre. And no noises. Smile I'm happy for now, I really am thankful for these enzymes I have been taking. I've had some noises in my second class today, but that was because I had to use the bathroom and it was that kind of like bubbly gas-like feeling that I can FEEL even through my hands if I put them on my stomach, I think you mentioned this same kind of thing with the Oxypowder, Eric. I'm still going to try some of the Candidagone now, just to give it a shot. If it doesn't help, then I'm going to go back to Paragone in a few weeks or so, depending on how I do in classes.

I also bought a blender recently for making smoothies and healthier things. I'm going to look up some recipes if I can, and make myself a book of sorts. If I find things that work, then I'll find a way to send them to all of you.

I had to share this becuase i'm feeling optimistic lately, and that is rare... so, I'm going to keep trying, and good luck to you guys who are still trying as well.
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replied on January 8th, 2008
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Well done coheed! Congratulations on getting to the cinema-it's been years since i've been, that's a true indication that things have improved for you!! Good luck with all your classes, remember to keep breathing!!

I think we're all incredible people (not wanting to sound big headed!!), i think some people would just curl up in a corner if they had to deal with this every day (i have days when i feel like doing that) but we keep pushing ourselves and we are still functioning and living life.

I've been no-carbs and healthy eating for 4 days now and i don't feel all that different really, i think im getting less gas but nothing significant. I'll stick with it though.

Ive booked my doctors appointment-22nd January so plenty of time to stress myself out about it!!

I'm also trying to stay optimistic, im naturally a pessimist and it's very depressing!! I have this mind-set where i have to imagine that the worst possible thing is going to happen (ie.loads of noise, bright red, run away and cry!) If i have the attitude 'it's going to be fine, i'll have no noise' then i feel like im tempting fate. Gosh, i sound mentally unstable!!
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