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December 14th, 2007
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jen07 wrote:
What's the 'spit test' GG?

Helpwanted-that would be great if you could give me the website name, thankyou.

I've had no reply from the specialist, will let you know as soon as i do.


When you wake up in the morning, before brushing your teeth or putting anything in your mouth. Get a glass of water and spit in the glass. Wait for about 1- 30 minutes. If your spit sinks to the bottom of glass, sinks and looks stringy, or sinks and looks cloudy, you are positive for overgrowth of candida/yeast. If your spit doesn't do any of the above, you don't have an overgrowth.

Again, thanks Marre for sharing your story. It makes perfect sense. That is the reason I love this forum because people are willing to share their information and stories. We will find a cure!
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replied December 15th, 2007
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Growlgurl,

The RenewLife digestive enzyme I picked up is (knock on wood) working great so far.. the ingredients are not quite the same as the Solarray, but I've had great results for these few days so far. Are you still on yours?
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replied December 16th, 2007
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coheed wrote:
Growlgurl,

The RenewLife digestive enzyme I picked up is (knock on wood) working great so far.. the ingredients are not quite the same as the Solarray, but I've had great results for these few days so far. Are you still on yours?


Are you taking the Parazyme by Renew Life? If so, I use to take it until I went to a naturopathic doctor and he told me to stop taking it because he didn’t like some of the herbs that it contained. Anyway, he told me that I was dehydrated and that is why I have the noises. I increased my water intake and still the noises were still there. Unfortunately, I took the Parazyme back for a refund since he told me that. Now, I realize that he was just a fluke and didn’t know what was causing the noises.

I think everyone with the noises should be taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, and drinking lots of water. Whether it cures the noises are not the enzymes help digest the food and the probiotics gives us good bacteria.

Yes, I’m still taking the super Digestaway. I had a bad week last week and the digestaway didn’t help as much as the previous weeks. It seems the noises adapt to the different herbs after awhile. I’m currently taking Candigone by Renew Life to check for candida as well as limiting carbohydrates, sweets, sodas, etc….

I will check in with my progress.
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replied December 16th, 2007
One thing I want to add, is that way back when I first took CandiGone, I had to do two treatments. The first one worked for a few days but when I was off it, my problem seemed to come back, I called the makers of the product and they told me that if a person had a yeast overgrowth problem and they are experenicing systems from it, chances are they have had the overgrowth a long time, so to kill off the all the bad yeast you have to treat it longer.
I didn't look forward to another treatment, but I was feeling pretty bad with the noises and the way it just made me feel run down all the time.
And it made sense, after all Rome wasn't built in a day either!
I look forward to hear how you do on it. I am pretty hopeful it will work for you, just try to go without carbs, and sugar, you will also notice once you cut them out, your won't be so hungry either. Two fold! If a person could just try and eat naturally I think we would have less problems. (it is not always easy)
Marre
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replied December 16th, 2007
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marre wrote:
One thing I want to add, is that way back when I first took CandiGone, I had to do two treatments. The first one worked for a few days but when I was off it, my problem seemed to come back, I called the makers of the product and they told me that if a person had a yeast overgrowth problem and they are experenicing systems from it, chances are they have had the overgrowth a long time, so to kill off the all the bad yeast you have to treat it longer.
I didn't look forward to another treatment, but I was feeling pretty bad with the noises and the way it just made me feel run down all the time.
And it made sense, after all Rome wasn't built in a day either!
I look forward to hear how you do on it. I am pretty hopeful it will work for you, just try to go without carbs, and sugar, you will also notice once you cut them out, your won't be so hungry either. Two fold! If a person could just try and eat naturally I think we would have less problems. (it is not always easy)
Marre


I had to do three treatments when I did the Paragone. I will probably have to do more than one candigone treatments too. I've been dealing with these noises for 10+ years. The first few years weren't as bad as the last 5+years. I'm praying that this will cure it 100%.

I'm cutting down on all carbs. I don't eat much sweets or drink a lot of soda so that's not a problem for me.
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replied December 17th, 2007
I will be starting on the CandiGone treatment tomorrow. Question:Do you guys think I should continue to use the SuperDigestaway while I try the Candigone?
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replied December 17th, 2007
My suggestion would be to take one thing at a time, otherwise how will you ever know which product helped you?
The CandiGone worked by itself with me, changing your eating habits during its treatment is important. The website for CandiGone is very helpful if you have questions also.
Good luck.
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replied December 17th, 2007
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Coast wrote:
I will be starting on the CandiGone treatment tomorrow. Question:Do you guys think I should continue to use the SuperDigestaway while I try the Candigone?


I would continue taking the digestive enzymes and probiotics. I'm thinking we still need help digesting food properly and good bacteria. No, I wouldn't stop taking the digestaway.

I agree with you Marre that you wouldn't know which one helped, but still I think all of us should be taking those two supplements, along with fiber.
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replied December 17th, 2007
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Great advice marre, it's quite excting seeing people get results although im still of the frame of mind that i'll never get rid of this.

I did the spit test and some sank and went stringy-gross!!

Over xmas i'm going to cut out ALL carbs. It's so difficult though, how do you keep yourself full? I only had some potato wedges yesterday (compred to my usual oats, rice, pototoes) and i did feel good, i still the noise but not as bad but i think is that jjust because i didn't eat as much? I had natual yog for brekfast, chicken salad for dinner and raw carrots as a snack.

My new years resolution is to go to the doctors about this! I will be strong, as sacred as i am, i have to get to the bottom of this!
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replied December 17th, 2007
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Growlgurl,

It's called... Intestinew... intended to renew and maintain a healthy intestinal lining, which is what I was ultimately worried that I had damaged. I had a bad hour yesterday (the one day that I forgot to take it). But so far, I have been great on it. I will probably try the CandiGone soon since it seems to be doing well for people.

Also, Coast I would agree with Growgurl and keep taking the enzyme. It isn't a treatment so much as it's a supplement.


Jen, I think you'll figure this out... just time.
I'm not sure where I heard this, but I DID hear of a doctor who was intending to research (and is currently testing new products) for undiagnosable stomach issues. And between all of us, I think we all have a right to be optimistic. Besides, just by eating healthier, you're going to be on the right track to improvement.
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replied December 17th, 2007
I come back and read this thread and I just want to keep sharing, and hope that people pick up things or really stop and think.
When I first had this problem two years ago and didn't know what was wrong with me and couldn't get rid of it, I went to my doctor, she gave me a script for a medicine for IBS and was ready to send me home. I didn't want the pills, I wanted to know what was wrong and how to correct it. She told me then stop eating carbs and let your body rest up and get back its good flora. I didn't understand.
I researched my problem more, went to my local health store, the owner is so smart and does not try to sell every product in her store. She gave me CandiGone and told me that for two weeks, I should stay away from refined sugar, and carbs. She told me that we as humans eat alot of fiber (wheat this and wheat that) but wheat is very hard for us to digest and it causes alot of problems internally. We need fiber, but we need it from vegetables, fruit and nuts, naturally. (not a cupcake that has extra fiber added to it, LOL)
So, I went home and did what I was told. (example, for breakfast I can have eggs, bacon, or tuna salad) I don't eat regular bread, I eat special bread and I only have that bread twice aweek. I eat alot of salads or meat without all the bread stuff.
I started to feel better, growling was gone and I felt good. For the first time in a long time by the end of the day, my pants didn't feel four sizes to small because of bloating. Then I started to add just certain foods, and watched for any that would cause a problem. In my case, I don't handle simple carbs or alot of sugar well, it may be an age thing at this time in my life or my system just changed, or my inner body is telling me it is time to treat me better. I don't get hungry, because believe it or not, carbs make you hungry.
A few months later I went to a reflexlogists, and she found my problem right away, it amazed me that she could. But she told me to take a probiotic that is made up on dirt, it is a natural form of good bacteria. And she said eat fiber, vegetables and fruit.
I read alot and look into things, and it amazes me the things we can learn. I am not a health nut, but I know what a difference it makes to take better care.
I do not miss the awful feeling of the growls or run down feeling. And yes, I have had a set back once or twice, but I always get right back on track.
I agree, we need to take a daily supplement, probiotic or enzyne, but once we get our good flora back we will feel good, we just have to keep it.
I am sorry to go on and on, but I felt so bad for so long and it affected my life so much, that now I am happy to know what to do, and just let others know. You have to work at it, something changes and our bodies are saying no more, watch what and how you eat.
I will stop now.
Marre
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replied December 18th, 2007
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Hi marre,

What was the bread you were eating, what did you use for fiber mostly, and what was the probiotic that you used?

I'm glad you are so successful1
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replied December 18th, 2007
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Im loving reading your posts marre, it's so interesting, thankyou.

My diet mostly consists of carbs so if that's what i can't tolerate then it's no wonder i'm having problems! To me, a meal doesn't seem complete without them. I'm really getting into learning about this and im ready to make big lifestyle changes.

I used to almost binge at the weekends on wheat and takeaways, i saw it as a treat after being 'good' all week but now i keep up the healthy eating all week. It's not a treat, im actually punishing myself by doing it, and while it's heavenly to eat, an hour later i'm suffering-it's just not worth it!

My worry about cutting out carbs is that i'm not over weight and i struggle to keep my weight up so not eating them makes me think i'll lose weight which i dont want.

Anyway, im going to the healthfood shop tomorrow and im stocking up on probiotics and enzymes. Im going to try really hard over xmas and i think it should be easier as we have a lot of salads, cold meats, veggies etc during the holiday.

Also, on monday, i didn't know but we had the lectures in the morning which i'd been dreading as i thought they'd be on an afternoon. I sat through them, no noise (slight anxiety). So i don't have to panick about them now-yipeeee!xx

PS. i've been drinking this lately it's really yum (not sure if the banana counts as a naughty carb though):

-1/2 pot natural yog

-1/2 pint milk

-table spoon natural honey

-banana chopped up,

Whizz it all up with a hand mixer-yum yum!
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replied December 18th, 2007
jen07 just keep at it. I think people have to start something a few times before they are successful at it. That is what finally did me in, knowing what tomorrow would be like if I ate something that I knew would cause a problem.

I eat Ezekiel bread, it is flourless. That is the only bread I eat when I eat bread. I get my fiber from veg, fruits, nuts (lots of nuts). I use to worry what I would eat if I didn't have potaoes and buttered bread with a meal, but I don't any more, I am use to not having to have it.

As Americans, we eat alot of bread and mostly not the good stuff.

The probiotic I take is called Priminal Defense.

One of the things I have learned along the way, is it is not cheap to live a healthier lifestyle. And why does it have to be that way?

My best to everyone, I can't wait to continue to read about everyones journey.
Marre
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replied December 20th, 2007
i have been suffering from this incessant growling as well...i have tried digestive enzymes, caprylic acid ibs medication +++...and they just dont seem to go away..i constantly feel bloated and have excessive gas most days. anyways i wandering what problem she found...do you know the name of it ?
marre wrote:

A few months later I went to a reflexlogists, and she found my problem right away, it amazed me that she could. But she told me to take a probiotic that is made up on dirt, it is a natural form of good bacteria. And she said eat fiber, vegetables and fruit.
Marre


also i was wondering what is all the treatments you have done to get back to "normal"? and what things do you continue to take?

thanks
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replied December 21st, 2007
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Good questions Btb...


Also, for you guys in the UK, I came across a website that seems to be centered around doctors (who suffered from similar symptoms) and the things they are discovering and researching/treating (I believe in the UK, I have to double check).

If any of you are interested, I can post the link to the website. It has some interesting things about Leaky Gut which I had been researching at the time. The site covers everything from the Candida, Celiac's, gluten, parasites, etc. All the things we all have been discussing.
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replied December 21st, 2007
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Yes please coheed, it'd be great if you could post a link.

I got a reply from the naturopath specialist today. Very disappointed, he recommended 2 supplements to take (they had comercial names so don't know what was in them). He gave me a number to ring to order them but i cant before xmas. I was hoping for more about why this is happening and how. I mean, it would be great if i could take this stuff and be magically cured but i'd like to understand the cause of it.

I've eaten no carbs for 2 days, it's been really tough and the noises are still there but i think i've had less wind and i've got LOADS of energy. It's so weird, i cleaned the house from top to bottom today and was up and awake at 7 which is strange as i'm on holiday and i usually lounge in bed till at least 9.

I'm going to try to continue for the next 2 days then im back to work monday so will have my usual brekfast but will try again over xmas day etc. It's just so hard to know what to eat!

Don't think i'll be back now until after xmas so i hope everyone has a wonderful time. I hope the noises aren't too bad and that we get to enjoy ourselves without too much embarresment! Happy rumblings!xxxxx
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replied December 21st, 2007
Co heed - I would like to see the link also. If someone can put a name to this, wow.

btdbb26 - To get rid of the noises, I used the CandiGone treatment, as mentioned the first time I had to do two treatments, and it got rid of them Then I had to find out what triggered the problem to come back, and it was eating certain carbs. I believe my problem is from an overgrowth of yeast that some how gets into the lower intestines and just grows, sugar and carbs just feed it, so that causes gases to form and then the noises. (I am not a doctor, but I can only repeat what I have come to believe, and this started for me 2 yrs ago and it was awful to live everyday with the problem.
The relexoligist, does not name things, she uses your feet to read your body signals, and the fact that she knew nothing of my problems she was able to tell me about things going on inside me. (I did not go to her for that problem, but she found that and a few other things)
As mention on this thread by others, I take a daily probotic and I watch my diet, I eat healthier, stay away from simple carbs, eat lots of fiber.

Jen07 - stick with changing your diet, it is easy to remove simple carbs (you may not like too, but you can) for breakfast have eggs and bacon, no toast. Lunch have a sandwich, but skip the bread and have it on lettuce, for dinner have your meal, but instead of simple carbs, have extra veggies.

It is not always easy, esp with all the holiday goodies around now. But I generally do real good. And eating less carbs will give you energy, because your body doesn't experience the rush of sugar and then the downer after it gets burned up. I lost 30 lbs without ever trying by changing my eating habits.

Good luck to everyone, Happy Holidays
Marre
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replied December 22nd, 2007
Co heed thank you for the site, it is so amazing (I have to admit, I need to go back and read it all a few times, before I can grasp all of the information)
But, I see he agrees to kill off the candida and thenn sort of start over. Which is really what I had to do.
I know I was told I have a overly active adrenal system, which now makes sense that it could be feeding this problem.
The body is trying to tell us something. (and I don't believe taking medications will solve the problem, it will just cover it up)
Marre
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replied December 22nd, 2007
I bought CandiGone today and will start on the first 15 day treatment tomorrow. I will let you all know how it goes...
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