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coheed
on December 2nd, 2007
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I REALLY like RenewLife... I'm going to do one of their cleansers when break starts... I hope one of them works for you! We all should keep an eye out for websites that ship to the UK.
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btdbb26
replied on December 2nd, 2007
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hey everyone..i have been taking digestive enzymes, and i found this thing called one-a-day advantage for ibs and i suppose they has lessened my gas and bloating but the noises are still there. I tried Caprylic Acid as Eric had said and i have been on it for 2 days now and i was wondering if that could cause diarrhea because this morning i woke up with it. I dont know if maybe it was something I ate yesterday or a reaction to the Caprylic Acid. Any help is greatly appreciated..Thanks.
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help wanted
replied on December 2nd, 2007
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that would be helpful coheed thanks. i think i will get one of the cleanses and give that a go at some point, but for now i think ill stick with what im doing, maybe ill give it a go after christmas.

btdbb26, the caprycic acid may cause diarhea, eveyone reacts differntly to all the different suppliments and things out there, when i take fibre it really changes my stomach and i need the loo lots, how much caprylic acid are youtraking, maybe should should take a smaller dose and buld up, plus if you thnk you have candida, that could be the yeast not liking it
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jen07
replied on December 3rd, 2007
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No my husband doen't get any noises so it's definately just a problem with me! A couple of random questions: this is a bit gross, sorry, but does anyone get mucas when they do #2 and has anyone got a very pale complection? Im always getting comments of 'oh, don't you look pale', just wondered if there's any connection? Thnaks
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help wanted
replied on December 3rd, 2007
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i was actually just about to post about that. this evening i ate my evwning meal and needed the loo really bad which i have doen alot lately after my tea, but this is probably becasue i started taking fibre suppliments. but yeh, i passed some stringy mucous type stuff which really frekd me out, it almost looked like when you do the spot test in a glass of water for yeast and you get all those stringy bits in the water ( sorry to be graphic) any ideas what this means? and yes jen i have a pale complection but thats due to another health problem i have.
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coheed
replied on December 3rd, 2007
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Thats strange that you, Jen and Helpwanted just posted that. I had to go three times in an hour a day ago... and my stomach/intestines would feel so queasy right before hand, it was terrible. Same problem and result that you two have had. It's about the 3rd time this has happened since August, and I'm not on any specific system..

I take 2 Paragone's if my stomach is acting up, but I haven't taken any in a which I know isn't following with the system, but I wanted to take a break from them anyway. I've been taking probiotics however.
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help wanted
replied on December 4th, 2007
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i dont get queasy i just have lots of gas and it goes up and down making a lot of nosie and i really need the loo, and its always at night after my tea. i dont know what it is becasue i havnt really taken anything for a week other than fibre, i usually take probiotic, chlorella, milk thislte, aloe vera cleanse (which i just finisehed), anti candi etc. and it cant be the yeast dying becasue i had a bad weekend and ate a lot of sugar, im even more confused now!
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jen07
replied on December 4th, 2007
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I believe that mucas is a sign of imflammation or irritation, it acts to protect the gut lining. It's really interesting you both have that. I've always associated it with my chron's disease but all my others chron's symptoms have gone. I think we are all dealing with the same thing.

I went on an exclusion diet once, i think i had to eat protein for a few weeks then slowley introduce each food group. I didn't see any results at the time but it was many years ago, i wonder if it might be worth trying this again. Help wanted-what has your gp said to you? I still haven't spoken to mine aabout this, i know that sounds crazy, i'm a bit scared to because i know he'll say it's nothing but i always think that i've got that last option of help , if that makes any sense??

I think the worst of my noise, after me tea in the evening is caused by gas moving about , i feel it build up then it moves back up my colon and i get a really loud noise.

I get alot of noise when i lie down, like stomach noise and digesting noise but this doesn't bother me too much as only my husband hears it and he's not bothered.

My bowels are quietest in the morning if i follow my routine and i can NEVER let myself get hungry, my stomach goes CRAZY, i know everyone's rumbles when they're hungry but mine rediculous!!
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help wanted
replied on December 4th, 2007
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hen im exaclty the same as you, my stomachs normally not too bad in the morning, then goes craxy at night and bad if i lie down. i mentioned digestive rpoblems to my gp when i was getting refered to an ENT for my sinus problems but they didnt seem interested just said i had to see what the ENT said. im also too embarrassed to go into detail and i really dont think theyd take it seriously.

maybe the mucous is from taking the fibre? do you take anything at the moment?
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jen07
replied on December 5th, 2007
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I think the mucas could be caused by the fibre, i don't take anything for it, im on a medication for my chron's but the lowest dose, it wouldn't have any effect on the noise.

I'm just trying to control it through diet, i think that's the key, but i've hit a brick wall with it. I know that wheat is a definate no-no and too many carbs, sugar or large meals make it worse but nothing seems to cure it.

I've read stuff about cutting out all carbs for 4 weeks but it seems impossible and i really couldn't do it while im at work as i have to eat to stop the hunger and i usually have crisps, i can't imagine sitting there eating chicken or something!! I feel like enough of a freak as it is.

The other line of thought i have is maybe counselling or something to help with the constant anxiety but i'd have to open up to my gp and im really scared to.

Does anyone have children? Im at the age where im starting to think about it but all i imagine is crazy things like how would i cope if they were in a school play or parent-teacher evenings etc?? At the moment, all i do in the evening is sit in and watch tv, or go out for a meal, i can't even go round to visit family and friends in the evening because i'm so uncomfortable, that's what i hate, feeling so uncomfortable in my own skin.

Sorry to ramble, this is like therapy for me! Thanks for reading!x
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len811
replied on December 5th, 2007
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Generally the symptoms posted here match mine, but I show a more defined pattern. I would appreciate hearing if others experience a pattern.

Firstly, my problem has become worse over a few years. Until recently the pattern was: always a problem from 30 minutes to 2 hrs after eating lunch. No problem before that. No problem after dinner. After much testing (various foods), I concluded it was not related to what I ate for lunch

Gradually the problem became worse. Noise began with eating lunch and continued longer.

Reluctantly I have the theory it is the breakfast meal. How else could I have gas so soon after and even now, with lunch?

Here is a puzzling wrinkle: It does not matter when I eat lunch. Three hours after breakfast or 7 hours after breakfast - all the same. The noise begins with the second meal of the day.

So, I just began experiments with food for breakfast. My breakfast has not varied for many years: always juice (orange, cranberry, pomagranate, or a mixture thereof), oatmeal, bread (whole grain) with peanut butter ("old fashioned"), soy milk, some fruit (grapefruit, orange, apple, banana are common choices).

For two days I have eaten dinner food for breakfast. Result: no gas, no noise. I shall continue with this for a few days. If all is well, I shall add some usual breakfast items. Anyone have a suggestion?
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btdbb26
replied on December 5th, 2007
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ok so i have been on digestive enzymes, probiotics, multibiotics,vitamins, once daily ibs advantage, garlic pills, and caprylic acid..and its still about the same. My stomach just wont stop bubbling..theres no major pain just general discomfort ..and its just tooo much. I have school everyday in quiet classrooms where everyone can hear thiss.. is there anything else i should be trying or taking..i dont think this is a bacterial overgrowth..i dont have any other symptoms to match candida. One thing that i have noticed is that everytime i swallow a drink i can seriously hear/feel bubbles as it goes down. And any shifts of my body when ive had liquids i hear a bubbling(not the usual swishing but a really bubling). I can feel the gurgling in my intestnes and stomach as well. I have only been drinking water and tea--no carbonation...I have also limited my diet--cutting out dairy products and wheat products, as well as higly acidic foods (ie oranges or tomatoes). Please if anyone can make any suggestions or thinks of something else respond.
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GrowlGurl
replied on December 5th, 2007
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btdbb26 wrote:
ok so i have been on digestive enzymes, probiotics, multibiotics,vitamins, once daily ibs advantage, garlic pills, and caprylic acid..and its still about the same. My stomach just wont stop bubbling..theres no major pain just general discomfort ..and its just tooo much. I have school everyday in quiet classrooms where everyone can hear thiss.. is there anything else i should be trying or taking..i dont think this is a bacterial overgrowth..i dont have any other symptoms to match candida. One thing that i have noticed is that everytime i swallow a drink i can seriously hear/feel bubbles as it goes down. And any shifts of my body when ive had liquids i hear a bubbling(not the usual swishing but a really bubling). I can feel the gurgling in my intestnes and stomach as well. I have only been drinking water and tea--no carbonation...I have also limited my diet--cutting out dairy products and wheat products, as well as higly acidic foods (ie oranges or tomatoes). Please if anyone can make any suggestions or thinks of something else respond.


Try this digestive enzyme...Super Digestaway by Solaray.
I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and I like it more than the paragone. Yes I said it, it working better than the paragone. It's cheap and it works!!!!!

Coheed, can you please try this digestive enzyme, I want to make sure it isn't my imagination. It's only cost about $6 to $8 dollars. Give it a whirl and let me know what you think. I don't want to speak too soon, but it seems promising.
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btdbb26
replied on December 5th, 2007
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GrowlGurl wrote:
Try this digestive enzyme...Super Digestaway by Solaray.
I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and I like it more than the paragone. Yes I said it, it working better than the paragone. It's cheap and it works!!!!!


do you think that enzymes will end the gurgling?...if so what do you think would be the cause of the gurgling?..bc several people have posted about bacterial overgrowth (or candida) and i just dont think that is what i have.. thanks for the idea thought i will try them. hopefully thats all i need..this is past the point of embarassing and i have a test tomorrow that means an especially silent class for 120 minutes.
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GrowlGurl
replied on December 5th, 2007
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btdbb26 wrote:
GrowlGurl wrote:
Try this digestive enzyme...Super Digestaway by Solaray.
I've been on it for almost 2 weeks and I like it more than the paragone. Yes I said it, it working better than the paragone. It's cheap and it works!!!!!


do you think that enzymes will end the gurgling?...if so what do you think would be the cause of the gurgling?..bc several people have posted about bacterial overgrowth (or candida) and i just dont think that is what i have.. thanks for the idea thought i will try them. hopefully thats all i need..this is past the point of embarassing and i h ave a test tomorrow that means an especially silent class for 120 minutes.

yes these enzymes work better than the paragone... They have been stopping my gurgling instantly when it starts. I think we are unable to digest our food properly and that's what's causing the gurgling, gas, and bad bacteria in the small intestines. I don't know why..it could be parasites, intolerances, food allergies..

I take them with food or on an empty stomach when the gurgling starts. I don't want to jinx myself, but they have stopped the gurgling and GAS.
Get the Super Digestaway from Solaray. I've tried others but they just don't stop the gurgling and gas like these.

ETA...it says to take one with meals. In the beginning I took a little more than one per meal, it depends on the size of the meal. If it's a big meal take two to stop the gurgling and gas Now that I have built up the enzymes in my system, I take one per meal and no gurgling or gas!
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jen07
replied on December 6th, 2007
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Hi Len,

I have a similar pattern, it starts with the second meal- my theory is that when you eat the second meal, brekfast is by then in the bowels and digestion kicks in. If i have first meal at say 1pm they my second meal at 5pm, the noises will start at 5pm. Usually i have brekfast at 8am and the noises kick in after lunch at 12 noon. But i have to empty my bowels completely before my first meal or i get noise all day.

This super digestaway sounds great. I really have to find the courage from somewhere to visit my gp.


Another gross question- does anyone see undigested food in their #2?
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jen07
replied on December 6th, 2007
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Hey helpwanted-we can get digestaway from the uk, they have a website, just type in solaray!!!!!!!
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coheed
replied on December 6th, 2007
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hey Len....

If I'm trying to think of a pattern... I would have to say it started around my Junior Year of highschool after I started taking consistent anti-biotics and birth control which are taken together to counter scaring acne. And I feel vain, but I'd hate to have scars all over my body so I still use them every so often when it gets rough. Anyway... That is about when it started... but it was just like little, quiet noises that I think I heard more than anyone else did, but it still gave me such anxiety and paranoia that i was always so glad to get out of class and school. I never had that much gas though at the time...

Freshman year of college is when it really kicked off. I couldn't go to movies, dates, hated sitting at ALL in any quiet-close scenario with people. It's when the gassy noises starting coming, and then the really really loud burbles that would basically make me Christmas-tree my Scantrons on exams and get the hell out of there. Those noises were so loud that I would sit in the back of our STADIUM classrooms by myself and a kid three rows in front of me turned around when he heard one. It was the worst year of my life I think. I still hardly go to movies...

I tried things like the Aloe Vera cleanse.. nothing, nor did the pepermint tablets, all those things. I did Maalox for a while, and that seemed to help a little, but only for small periods at a time. Around Sophomore year is when I could feel it, like literally feel it with my hands in my intestines, and when my stomach would start to hurt on occasion or I'd get nausea. I started having to use the bathroom a lot more around that time, I felt like it was a key to at least temporary relief from the noises. Also around Freshman year I could start to feel like very thin and mild vibrations to intense rumbles down in like my colon area, which I still feel on occasion, but only the mild ones.. though they are more consistent and long lasting.

I'm into my second semester of my third year of college now, and only after the Paragone have I felt better. My anxiety was through the roof before, I would skip tests on purpose just so I could make them up my by myself in my teacher's offices, or I would just break and eventually had one teacher allow me to take the test out in the hall due to my stomach and anxiety. Exercise never helped me much, but it acted as a sort of mental placebo, so I still encourage it and try. I skipped a ton of classes between last fall and this semester. Paragone is what got me through the semester, and like I've mentioned before my anxiety is almost gone now, so again I think it acted as a sort of Placebo as well. Which, I swear, once your anxiety goes down, your noises will NOT disappear, but they will to at least a degree lessen...

I didn't mean to make this so long, but it helps me to get it out as well. Where I am at now, I generally have cut large amounts of dairy out of my diet and heavy creamy things. I hardly eat junkfood anymore unless it just calls for it... I try to eat salads, fish (really a good help), just generally healthier things. I also would take Valerian pills to help me stay asleep all night which i think could also greatly help. I can still physically FEEL the rumbles, and they just feel like something forceful is shooting gas like a pinball machine around my intestines. But, once I use the restroom, it generally goes away. My noises, even without Paragone have lessened to the point where I hardly think about them relative to what I used to... They happen maybe once a day.... only sometimes loudly...

Growlgurl, I'm going to get that Digestive Enzyme within the next few days, I've been looking for something new to try. You've helped me so much already, I think I seem to be closest to your symptoms if your results are working as well for you as they are for me. So, thankyou.

Len, I hope this helps, and anyone else.
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jen07
replied on December 6th, 2007
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Thanks for sharing all that coheed, as much as i wouldn't wish this on anyone, it is very comforting to know im not alone. All our experiences sound so familiar. What does everyone do when the noise starts? I go bright red, start sweating and fidgeting and then run away from what ever situation im in!!

One of my worst experiences was a class i had in the 2nd year of my degree. It was a class of about 10, all sat around one table. It was at 2pm, a bad time for me and before i really understood my good and bad times, i'd never put myself in this situation now. Anyway, we were all sat there, listening to the lecturer and the noise started, really loud, low down bowel noise. Everyone stared at me, even the teacher, some people laughed but my friend looked at me with utter disgust. It was the worst moment of my life. It really triggered all the anxiety that i still carry with me today.I don't know how i sat to the end of that class!
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coheed
replied on December 7th, 2007
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jen, your story makes me cringe... haha. I have been there before. It's horrendous. I usually get/got the same when I felt the noises coming on, I'd go BRIGHT red, my heartbeat would just be pounding, I would start breathing shallowly, just felt like a panic attack or something and I'd just sit completely still or I'd tap a pencil or something to make noise and if it was bad enough I'd just leave. I had to leave a movie once.. and that was difficult to explain, ha.

I feel like with this many new people though who are actually TRYING things for themselves and sharing all the results, we might be getting somewhere.... from what i've noticed, it seems the more natural/herbal things are working best. Which makes me believe we can fix this. If anyone is looking for a good meal, I usually put some salmon in Omega oil and chopped Raw garlic (which is good for your stomach anyway) and throw that in the oven. Never makes noises, fish is great for you, the oil I use is the good for you kind, and the chopped garlic is a sure benefit. If anyone is looking for another dinner, just throwing it out there...
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