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October 12th, 2007
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Haha, Eric, I have thought that so many times, about there being one place for all of us to work easily.

GrowssuckI have had a lot of gas lately too, I think perhaps because I haven't been eating that great lately because of hectic school and work situations. What kind of foods do you eat?

Eric, I have fiber pills as well, but I have heard that they can cause lots of gas? Having fiber naturally in my diet seemed to help a lot before, but I never got a whole lot of it, and the pills seem like an idea.

Also, for those of you who are trying the probiotics, how expensive are yours?
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replied October 13th, 2007
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Growl Sucks, thank you for your support. I really do hope that parasites are the root to my problem. I have always been fine, then when I started my university I started making stomach noises. They got worse after I finished school, but I don't know if it had anything to do with me being in a fraternity, with all the drinking.

I guess I am on my 5th day of Paragone and I feel a lot better. I am taking soo many pills all day long, haha, but I don't care as long it helps me with my stomach noises. Every morning I take my 2 paragone pills, with the drops in my water, 2 metamucil fiber pills, 2 pills that I got from a doctor in Mexico, 1 pill of probiotics and 1 pill of milk thistle.


haha Coheed, yeah that would be great if you could make stomach noises all day and not have to feel akward with your co-workers. While I was in my training with the government, there were 3 other people who seemed to also make stomach noises. One other lady I knew made stomach noises, but I think it was due to the fact that she was lactose intollerant and she drank milk in the morning. I lasted 4 weeks there and I wish I could have finished I would have had a cool good paying job. I was even thinking about speaking in front of my class and telling them of my condition and tell them that I would spend $1500 to throw like a party for my stomach problems, but I couldn't bare telling other people. This problem has affected me sooo much and has caused me soo much pain and anger.

I really wanted to start grad school or law school last year, but I didn't because of my stomach. Now I have been looking at online masters programs, which is just horrible, I feel soo anti-social.


Coheed, the probiotics pills were pretty cheap they only cost like $10 for 150 capsules. There is the word Acidophilus written on the bottle and just under that it says Probiotic. The milk thistle also like like $10. I have been taking these pills with 2 fiber pills and the paragone for like 5 days and I feel much better. I haven't been running lately, haha been lazy, but I know that has helped.

Like other people have posted doing #2 helps a lot, when I was in my training I did #2 like 3 times a day. I used the restroom not because I needed to, but because I had to, I would force my body. Also try to maintain a healty diet.

I hope everyone can find a solution to their stomach problem. Best of luck to everyone.
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replied October 17th, 2007
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Tapeworms
I recently bought some PB8 Probiotics and Dr. Natura's Paranil. But it doesn't seem to be working. Do you know if Paranil addresses tapeworms?
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replied October 17th, 2007
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Eric, I'm glad you are doing better with the Paragone! I know how you feel though, so many people, including myself, are avoiding such important parts of life because of this....

The only probiotics that I have seen have been over 30 dollars! Which ones are you using? Maybe I have to order them online. How much do yours cost, Gettingthere?
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replied October 17th, 2007
coheed wrote:
Eric, I'm glad you are doing better with the Paragone! I know how you feel though, so many people, including myself, are avoiding such important parts of life because of this....

The only probiotics that I have seen have been over 30 dollars! Which ones are you using? Maybe I have to order them online. How much do yours cost, Gettingthere?


You can get Culturelle at Wal-Mart for like $17-18 I think.
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replied October 18th, 2007
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I'm soo glad that there are other people with the same problem!! I feel bad that we have to deal with this though. I mean when I'm in a quiet environment, I feel like my stomach/colon area is sooo loud...it sounds like i'm passing gas and I'm not!! I don't know what to do. It really has affected my job because the noises are so distracting and embarrasing. Sometimes eating grapes works, because it can help make me burp. I have yet to find something that works. Please I beg you, if you know of something that may work, let me know.
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replied October 20th, 2007
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Coheed, the PB8 tablets were $24.59. Actually it was $19.99 for 120 Veggie Capsules and it was $4.60 for the shipping. I got them from eVitamins.

Well, you know, after I bought them I used them for only a couple of days but then I stopped. I know this sounds really weird, but I feel like I have heart pains when I take them. I stopped and I'm okay. I guess Iv'e become really really anemic, over the last past few years, because of all the parasites, and candida, Plus because of skipping foods over fear of whether they might trigger the noises. And probiotics help your body produce Vitamin K. Vitamin K helps blood clot. I think the probiotics were so high in quantity that they were making blood clot. I know that I am thinking really really deep, but I got scared and stopped taking them. I guess I'll just stick to yogurt or something.

Over the course of the past few years I've been doing toooo much research, and thinking waaay to deep and am driving my self insane. Yesterday, I was telling my mom, that with the research I've done I probably could get another degree:D

Another thing that I would like to point out is that for those of you who plan on eating Pineapple, please watch out. Pineapple can interact with medications. And Vallium, is definitely one of those medications with which you aren't supposed to eat pineapple. I'm not sure about Bentyl though.

Just want to make sure everybody knows about the pineapple interacting with medication.
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replied October 20th, 2007
Getting There, your mom knows about your condition? My parents and family have no idea. I'm usually not around them in quiet situations so they really have no clue. Luckily, I have hopefully found a good solution with Paragone to help me get rid of this problem by the time I graduate in May so that if my job ends up being in quiet environments, I won't have to deal with this issue.
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replied October 20th, 2007
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Update
I've been off the Paragone for over 2 weeks, noises are still the same as if I was on paragone.

I'm currently taking probiotic Jarrow Dophilus, I like this probiotic because it targets the small intestine, besides it's enteric coated. It can fight through the stomach acids. Also, growl suck I didn't like Culturelle, it gave me too much gas and it doesn't target the small intestine, it's more for the large. Parasites are more in the small intestine than anywhere else. I'm also eating flaxseed with my cereal every morning, so that my system can keep moving the parasites from my colon.
It's very important to keep the bowels moving and try to drink as much water as possible.

I've also been taking Kyolic Odorless Garlic Capsules to kind of switch up anti-parasatic herbs so that the parasites don't adjust.

This is going to be a lonnnnnng fight to get back to normal. It's hard to get rid of parasites, especially with me having this problem for over 10 years. I would advise EVERYONE that this is not going to be a simple take this medicine, herb, etc and they are gone. Just know that you are going to have to keep fighting this problem for the rest of your life. Once you are exposed to them they are not easily leaving their host(you).

Also, if any of you get a chance, go to Google and search for "Parasite Menance" It a preview of the book and it has lots of good information about parasites. It also mentions grumbling noises from the stomach as a symptom of parasites.

BTW...If anyone is interested in the Jarrow Dophilus probiotic, it cost $14 and you can buy it online or healthfood store. The Kyloic Odorless Garlic Capsules are $13. This garlic capsule is supposed to be the best next to the real garlic cloves but without the garlic smell.

good luck everyone and keep posting!!!
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replied October 20th, 2007
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Sorry, I don't think its pineapple that interacts with Vallium. I think it grapefruit.

Well, actually my mom doesn't know about my problem. She doesn't get it. I've actually just shut up around her. I just hint to her about things I want. For example, like flaxseed, I just hinted it to her, and she was the one that spotted it at Walmart and told me about it.
And also about the pumpkin seeds, I just hinted to her that I wanted them, and the next time she went shopping she bought that for me.

You know my major source of support has been you guys. Thank You all!!
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replied October 21st, 2007
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I think I'm going to start trying to keep up with the fiber tablets I have... I always fee better if I don't feel like there's stuff all in my intestines. I've noticed... not so much a noise... but the wierd vibration/rumbling way down in my colon came back this weekend.. I'm thinking it's just because I have 90000 things going on right now and the stres is getting to me...

I've also been forced to go back onto antibiotics... which is why i would also like to get the probiotics, hopefully I can find some of the ones you all have suggested (thank you, by the way guys). Does anyone know much about probotics and their interaction with specific antibiotics? I feel like since the antibiotics are not for any stomach related issues that it shouldn't be all that.. much of a crossover or conflict, but I'm really not sure.

Eric, what again does the milk thistle do for you?

getting there, did the PB8 tablets end up working for you??

Thanks growlgurl, I really am worried that alot of these treatments tend to increase the gas problems, hopefully the Jarrow Dophilus can get those vibration wierd rummbles I mentioned above... Also, what kind of a diet are you eating on top of the flaxseed and garlic tablets?

Gettingthere, my mom doesn't seem to understand, and my friends just assume that my stomach hurts or something, they don't really get the anxiety and everything else that goes into this. It's terrible... good thing for this forum.
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replied October 22nd, 2007
Parasites
I haven't posted here in a while, although I have been following what has been going on here closely. Anyways, as much as I want to believe, I don't know if I buy this whole parasite thing mainly because a year after this started, I had both a colonoscopy and an endoscopy, in which the doctor took several pieces of the lining of my stomach and intestines in order to test for parasites which came out negative. Also during the tests there were no visible parasites.

In the end, I think that as a result of genetics, parasites, or even lack of a healthy diet, we have damaged our intestines in some way. I believe that we have something wrong with the lining of our intestines that allows air (or something) to permeate through the walls resulting in the noises that we are hearing. I also believe that our "brain gut" relationship also magnifies this problem because when we get nervous this problem magnifies. I believe this because of the tests that were done on me, and because I have realized that if I don’t have a bowel movement and allow my intestines to remain full, then even though I feel the gases, I never hear any noises. I think that by not having bm, the permeable parts of my intestines are not accessible to the gasses.

If the paragone thing works, I think that it is because of a mental thing (like a placebo), although, I have to admit that I don’t know what exactly paragone does, so I may be wrong.

I really hope that I am wrong, although let me know what you guys think. Thanks for listening!
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replied October 22nd, 2007
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x2Cool557x, if you don't have parasites, then look into Leaky Gut Syndrome. For you I would just recommend sticking to the flaxseed. Take it everyday and see if you see any improvement.

I bet all of us have either Leaky Gut Syndrome, Candidiasis or Parasites.
If not one, look into the other.

And yes, there is a relationship between the gut and the mind. I read it somewhere in relation to Leaky Gut Syndrome. They mention something like, the health of the gut is related to the health of the mind....

I myself have mentioned that when my symptoms are severe my mind also is miserable. Just crazy, lousy thinking, agitated, anxiety, anger, antisocial feelings, obsessive thinking,depression, unbearable tiredness... It feels like something is just pulling me down lower and lower and lower mentally.

Coheed, I only tried the probiotics for a few days. Like I said I felt like I had heart pain when I was taking them, so I stopped. I don't think I'll take them regularly. Maybe every few days or so... But, I don't know whether you will have the same problems. I wouldn't want to stop you from trying them...
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replied October 23rd, 2007
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Yeah... I think I will try anything at this point really. I just don't know if it will counteract my antibiotics and make both of them worthless or just go haywire. But I don't think they could really have that negative of an effect. Although, Gettingthere, you may want to look into that effect they had on you. Probiotics in your stomach causing heart pain could possibly point you in a new direction to check out?
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replied October 24th, 2007
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Hello everyone,

Today the stomach noises started back up. I think that it had to do with me drinking some sweet alcoholic beverages. I am going to start to go on a strict diet and eat broth and rice and non spicy and non sweet food diet. I kinda felt some stomach noises, so I decided to go running, but it seems that it became worse, right after running. I don't know if it has to do with the weather, since it was pretty cold today. I started burping a whole bunch, but the noises were still there. I am still going to take the Paragone, Milk Thistle, Probiotics and Metamucil. After about an hour of making noises, it has kinda died down a bit. I think I will try to go runnin again later this evening and see how I feel in the morning. I have to go to training next week and I don't want to go. I will have to make up an excuse to sit in the back or something. I guess if I have to sit next someone, I will try to sit next to an older person or something. AHHHHHHHH this sucks. I don't know but I'm going to continue to take things/pills and see if something helps.

I was reading online about how bad Antibiotics are for your intestines. I was reading that Antibiotics kill the flora in your intestines. I have taken antibiotics, especially whenever I got sick. I would take Amoxil, which is used for colds. I was researching about stomach noises and saw the name Amoxil and then remembered that I had been taken that. It stated how bad they are for you and how one should avoid them. I will never take another antibiotic in my life and I would suggest all of you do your research and see if this could be your problem.

Coheed the Milk Thistle is used to help your liver. Some people say it cleans it, but as I was reading somewhere, a person said that it does not clean your liver, but rather it helps to process things through your liver. I decided to take it, since I use to drink quite a bit when I was in my university, since I was in a fraternity. I think that all the drinking might have hurt my liver, so I'm trying to bring it back to normal.


Sorry that I have not been in here for a while, but it's just that I have been busy and I was doing some research on other places. I will continue to do research and try to inform you guys on what I have learned. I think it's great that all of us get to share our experiences and see what is helping us and what is not.

Best of luck to everyone and I hope that we call all become "normal" again.
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replied October 24th, 2007
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Coheed, I don't think the probiotics will counteract the antibiotics. In fact you are supposed to take probiotics when you are on antibiotics. I have been told that in some countries doctors are required to prescribe probiotics along with antibiotics.
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replied October 24th, 2007
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Also, another thing... I've noticed twitches in several parts of my body when I stop taking the parasite medication. In my eye lids, shoulders, ankles, stomach, etc... Do you think its the parasites reacting to the medication? Die off??

Has anybody else been getting twitches? Not necessarily twitches but feeling like something is crawling or moving inside...
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replied October 25th, 2007
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I remember posting that when I got a tetanus shot and a hepatitus shot, my stomach went CRAZY. I remember a lady saying if you are alergic to yeast, then you shouldn't take the shot. I didn't really think much of it, but that had a horrilbe reaction on me.

I was reading about a person posting talking about the "Leaky Gut Syndrome" then I was reading about yeast infections and candida. I read in another post on another site, about a person who got tested for parasites, ibs and some other things, but everything came back negative. He did the cadida test and he had fungus in his intestines. I was reading on a site and it states that some causes can come from alchol, sugar, antibiotics and a poor diet. Here is a site I found, although there are many symptoms and the only problem I have are these Stomach Noises. Here is the site http://www.candidaexpert.com/Symptoms.htm You can also do research on candida and see if this may be your problem.

I can't wait to get working again, so that my insurance can kick in and so that I can go and get tested for candida.

I have been taking Paragone, Milk Thistle, Probiotics and Metamucil fiber pills and they seemed to help, but these last couple of days have not been good on the stomach. AHHHH this is such a problem, I feel like getting an intestine transplant or something.

Sorry if you see my posts in other locations, but I'm just trying to spread the little info I am learning to as many people as I can.

ehealth forum is also good and there are other people on there. I think we should all go into one forum though, it would make it a lot easier, just my two cents.

Well best of luck to everyone and I'll start running again, as I was too tired to run last night. Running use to help, so I hope it starts to help me now. Take care everyone.
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replied October 25th, 2007
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I have been quite a bit of research on Candida, which may be known as Candida yeast infection or intestinal yeast infection. I was reading about some of the causes of this infection. It talks about people who drink too much alcohol, consume too much sugar, take too many antibiotics, pregnancy, poor diet, not excercising and others. I have a bunch of sites I saved, but I am not able to post them on here. I will try to post the site, but I will not add the www. or the .com if it's needed at the end. There is lots of info on the internet, just google search Candida and read more into it. Here goes some of the sites, I hope they come out

*edited for links

I remember one guy who came on here and he said that he drank quite a bit in college and that after he graduated he started to get these noises. I also remember one guy saying that he use to eat nothing but fast food and that these noises started up after that. Some people who take antibiotics also get affected.

Today I took a couple more pills of Probiotics and I have to say my stomach felt better. I took Acidophilus, which is a Probiotic from Natrol. When I usually burp before taking the pills my stomach would gurgle quite a bit, but after taking 2 pills at one time, it felt a lot better.

I was reading online about certain vitamins that can kill fungus, which grows from the yeast in our intestines. I went to the Vitamin Shoppe and I bought some more pills. I bought another bottle of Natrol Acidophilus Probiotic, which cost $6.39 for a bottle of 100 capsules. I bought a bottle of Psyllium Husks Fiber from Solgar for $14.95 for 200 Capsules. I also bought a bottle of Caprylic Acid from Vitamin Shoppe for $5.99 for 100 Capsules. I bought a bottle of Flax Seed Oil from Natrol for $8.79 for 90 softgels. I was looking for Bentonite and I found this Liquid bottle that is 32 oz. It's called Sonne's #7 which cost $13.99. I bought all these items for like $50, which I think is a great deal.

I was reading about how good Caprulic Acid for Intestinal fungus. I was reading about how Mucus, comes out in the stool and all this other good info. I thought I had Parasites, but I'm not too sure. I'm going to continue take the Paragone, but I will start taking all these other medications. I will probably wait on the Bentonite, because that looks pretty weird. I hope this is the problem and I hope this is the problem for some of you.

One other posted that our problems are probably caused by Parasites, Leaky Gut Syndrome and something else, that I can't remember. I think this may be my problem and I will keep you guys posted. Good Luck to everyone.
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replied October 28th, 2007
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Thanks for all the information Eric, it's just so much to try and research for all of us (having this for several years) that it just gets redundantly exhausting.

I would like to know if anyone has any fiber pills that don't cause gas? I know the same company that makes Paragone is supposed to make a fiber program without the gas....

I used to eat a ton of fast food, unhealthy food, I drink a decent amount, and my mom has always told me to be careful not to get diabetes from all the sugar I eat. I just assumed I was not in danger of most of those things because my weight never fluctuated past the weight I was supposed to weigh for my height. I always joked that I probably had a worm or something. Maybe I do? I don't think I have parasites though because I do not seem to be having the same success as growlgurl. I guess the search is still on.

I feel closer though.

Gettingthere, I have always had wierd twitches haha. They are caused by a n interrupted neuron signal. Much more scientific, but basically the signal keeps getting interrupted and resent. Looks like we all have secondary symptoms.
Also, thankyou for the information on the probiotics. I will definitely have to head out and get some. Although I still have not found these cheap ones others have seem to have found. Although I really do only have one health store near me.

So I guess what I'm looking for is gas-less Fiber supplements/programs, good probiotics, and oh yeah, I think someone had mentioned that the noises from their "colon" area are the worst? If anyone has that as well, I'm curious if that is a common symptom, as that is the one that generally worries me the most.

Again, thanks eric for the information, I'm going to check out all of your sites when I get a moment! It's a depressing problem to keep coming back to though...
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