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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar?

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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 11-26-05 06:40am


First, those who have been bipolar for 10 years are 10 year olds. I been bipolar for 43 years but only diagnosed for about 5. Next, you may care to reread your 10 year pamplet and look for the word delusional and overwhelming confusion. Last, i'm very happy that you are handle this illness so well. We should all "just be ourselves' and follow your lead. Bless you,

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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 12-07-05 11:26am


Hi, i have a problem with lying, realize I need help with it, and wonder if it (lying) is part of a larger problem. When I stumbled on to this site in search of information about lying, I came across this thread on bipolar disorder. I am shocked at how many of the symptoms I seem to have. I am only confronting this problem now because it has cost me everything that was important to me. I have always struggled with telling the truth, but understood why it was so important to lie. Now in my 50s, I seem to not be able to control it. I know it is wrong, I don't want to lie, but I do. It seems to happen when I am depressed and feel desperate to impress someone. Could I have a form of bipolor disorder or should I be looking somewhere else? Is anybody else have a similar situation? Thanks,

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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 12-07-05 11:38am


I should have read all the postings. It seems there are mixxed opinion about what I asked in my previous post. All I know is I need help and I am not sure where to look for it. Thanks

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Posted: 12-11-05 06:43am


Ok I am bi polar and lying is not a symptom of it..Lieng is something you do on your own free will..Bi polar does not cause you to lie..Dumb question if I might add :roll:

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I Need Some Advice Posted: 12-12-05 10:15am


I just recently found out that my boyfriend is bipolar. Things have been like a crazy roller coaster ride for us. Now a days he is pushing me away, snapping at me, always gone, showing no affection, almost never talking to me, and been very defensive and easy to anger on everything. There are times when he is very happy and on top of the world. I have been having a hard time trying to understand what he is going through because when I try to talk to him about what is going on or how he is feeling he doesn't really tell me anything. I also feel like I need to walk on eggshells around him otherwise he will end up snapping or getting angry. I have tried to look up on bipolar everywhere and there is nothing to help me with how to be there for him. I love my boyfriend with all my heart and want to be there with him for the rest of my life, but I need help before it is too late and he decides that it's over. If anyone can help me please email me at pizzaz 612@hotmail.Com that would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Lieng Is Not a Part of Bi Polar Just People Usign Excuses Posted: 12-12-05 19:23pm


Bipolar disorder (children and adolescents) bipolar disorder and lying 05/09/2005 01:27pm question: is lying and being dishonest a symptom of bipolar disorder? The diagnosis has been made, but I can`t find any information on whether or not this is a symptom of severe bipolar disorder. Thank you! Answer: hello and thank you for your excellent question. No, lying and being dishonest are not symptoms of bipolar disorder, as diagnosed by the main diagnostic text: the diagnostic and statistical manual - version 4 (dsm-iv) published by the american psychiatric association (apa). However, if lying and being dishonest are frequent, long-term and severe behaviors that cause impairment at home/school/friends, then they may be: 1. Part of a diagnosis of conduct disorder, which frequently co-occurs with bipolar disorder and/or 2. An attempt by the child/teen to cover-up the problems caused by the bipolar symptoms. I hope this answer helps with your enquiry. Best wishes! ------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------- i did research and found this.. Lying is not apart of bi-polar..I have had it ince I was little..And have did reaserch on bi polar sooo many times and I even called my counselor/doctor to ask him..And he agrees lieng is not associated with bi polar.

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Posted: 12-15-05 03:51am


Lieing is not a symptom of bipolar disorder, that is left to the individual. Everyone lies so don't blame it on the illness. That is like saying someone eats because they have high blood pressure. I've lived with bipolar disorder for more then half my life.I agree with a previous post-- people tend to blame an illness more than the individual responsible. Maybe you should read something on the subject rather than posing a question you had a predetermined unchangable opinion about. To me lying is something learned and it hasn't nothing to do with oh if he/she lies he/she must have this or that, oh he/she doesn't do this or that so he/she doesn't have this or that.. Ok, johny is depressed and sad so he doesn't want to do anything but sleep. He tells his mom he is not feeling good,she wants him to go to school but says since you're not feeling good you can stay home. Ok jim is 19 and works at wallmart still lives with his parents. But says he is 24 and lives alone with a dog and works as a computer tech. There true lying? Ok so why did he lie,was johny really lying or did he just try to cover up his bipolar symptoms ? I hope this helps someone understanding covering up bipolar symptoms very true lying. To me lieing is something some one does it doesn't mean you are or aren't bipolar.

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Posted: 12-16-05 04:32am


"okay for my next question. Why would you have to chart your lies if it's not part of your disorder? Wouldn't that be kinda the point to see how far you have progressed with controlling your disorder? So from reading your post i'm assuming it is cause you totally contradicted yourself. So no that's not really answering my question because you totally confused me. :roll: " lol yousound like a jerk oh and btw I do not chart my lies

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Posted: 12-07-07 11:16am

pitterpatter wrote:

Calm down crazy health forum! I was just asking a damm question! Maybe you need to get some kind of zoloft or something. Do you lie a lot?

hope you don't treat or talk to your friend this way Confused

... you have over 600 posts, it says, so you are not new to ehealth.

btw - calling a forum "crazy" only makes YOU look crazy. cough

i think that all people have the potential to lie. furthermore, i believe that some of us sick with bipolar do lie and some of us don't lie.

i have lied in the past... not sure if it was bipolar or not. i think that when i lie i'm usually being self-destructive which is a symptom of many illnesses. i do get overly excited too and i'm sure i have embellished stories at some point. but, so do so called mentally healthy people. people lie. period. just an opinion Cool

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Posted: 12-11-07 17:59pm


This is a really interesting question, as i had never connected the two dots before. i do lie, but not much and not about important things. I think for me, there are two reasons I do so that in fact are connected to BD. the first is that when i'm manic, i really feel like i'm heads and shoulders better than everyone else. Therefore, i think that reality should reflect my brilliance, so yes, I'll embellish stories sometimes to give that impression. (Though i should add that i don't make up lies without any basis of truth, for example, i'm terrible at math and would never say that i'm a numbers whiz. however, i will exaggerate what is already true to give what i think is an accurate impression of myself to the person i'm speaking with. this ends up biting me in the butt most of the time because when i launch into depressive episodes, people don't understand what the trigger was because they think that, like i said, everything is absolutely perfect. So, they have no idea what i'm crying about when i bawl about my being terrible at everything and not being able to do anything right. the other reason, bizarrely enough, was to make sense of my behavior before i was diagnosed with bd. it wasn't active lying on my part, but more like reconstructed memory. If i needed to describe myself to another person, id make up theories to fit my behaviors neatly together. otherwise, i'd have a whole bunch of contradictories to tell people--but this was exhausting and left me completely unsure of who i was and what was going on. it's funny that i never theorized about bd until it was staring me in the face...like they say, you can't see what's under your own nose.

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Pitterpatter Posted: 12-14-07 02:40am


you seem bi polar yourself. My wife is bi polar and thinks she can say and do whatever she wants regardless of who it hurts, kind of like you. You definately have not learned how to keep the peace with someone who is bi polar,but from the looks of your posts,thats not what youre trying to do. You have certainly found some triggers though, I can see that by the reaction you were getting. No one likes to be called a liar and thats not specific to someone with bi polar. Please dont come back with " I wasnt calling them liars though!" Its almost as if you have already made up your mind which would make your comments pointless.

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Think I Uderstand Now Posted: 12-14-07 15:37pm


this is only my second post but i am trying to really trying to manage this illness and my marriage. My sister was diagnosed over 20 years ago and went through a period of delusions a year ago. She was in a different world where everything was a lie. It was scary, but then again she wasn't taking her meds. My husband gets so frustrated with me when I flash my "looks" and tell him a different "story". That's when I know my meds might be a bit off. I guess that's a symptom and a form of lying? I am now coming to grips with my triggers. Reading these comments are starting to really hit home. I think little things cause us to lie to cover up how we're feeling so ya'll who aren't bi-polar don't know how much of a struggle we're having that day - or maybe that is just how I operate.

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Posted: 03-30-08 15:27pm

kristynchase wrote:

Now I am bipolar and when I was younger I was a compulsive lier I would lie for no reason at all and lie about the most stupidest things.. You could have told me that my hair was blonde and I would have dissagreed. I believe that it is a part of the disorder.. I know with mine I could lie to someone and then believe myself that my lie was true I dont know why I lied all the time they just somewhat slipped out of my mouth.. It is hard to explain... But I think that it is a part of the disorder...

I think it has to do with believing the lie as you are saying it/ thinking that if you say it out loud it might be true. When I was younger every time I saw the principal i would say everything was normal and truly did believe that if I said it it would some how be. After my diagnosis I continued with harmless lies to cover up the situation I was in. I don't know if this will help anyone understand but it helps just to have people listen. Confused

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wow Posted: 03-31-08 01:56am


Quite possibly the most ignorant and judgmental post ever. Telling someone they needed zoloft because they were offended by your post? Calling this a crazy health forum? We don't need you here to tell us how bipolar people act, as if you would even know more than us. How old are you? 13? How many claimed "bipolar" friends do you have? Everyone stretches the truth at times. I'm a person living with bipolar disorder and have been my whole life and I am offended by your accusations. How do you think you know more about me than I do? Yea sure, everyone lies SOMETIMES about how many cookies they took from the jar, or why they were late to class.... but it has nothing to do with the disorder. And not everyone gets angry! PLEASE educate yourself, especially if you plan on being a supportive friend. But I'm guessing you're just going to call her out for being a liar. Oh, and sorry I'm a grammar fiend. It's spelled "lying."

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Believing lies Posted: 04-24-08 02:46am


Well in my situation my husband has bipolar disorder. And he has lied so much and he believes his lies. I'm not saying that everyone that has bpd is a liar. What I'm saying is I think that some are delusional. And they cover their guilt by lying. My husband is kind of pathological. It's scarey at times. He has hurt me many times over lies he makes up and believes. And I stand there wondering what the heck is going on. The fact is, he doesn't believe he lies and thinks he is the greatest person in the world. I'm the enemy and the liar. So forgive me for sounding agitated, but after 13 years of lies, deceit, hurt and just riding a rollercoaster of shame the whole time. This isn't about a cookie jar for me or being late to class. And I have educated myself with this disorder to the point I want to scream. I believe that a person with bpd doesn't really understand the severity of there actions on the people that truly love and care for them. I hope I didn't offend anyone, but I just need to say that.

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WOW!You all are right Posted: 04-27-08 22:44pm


Unfortunately, after 2 years of research I have just been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I have been having extreme moods swings followed by paranoia, bad headaches, and just plain weirdness. Its very embarrassing and I feel ashamed. All of the friends I had are gone not only due to the mania but also due to my compulsive lies. This is not my personality, this is why the people I am around are stunned to find out that almost everything that made me to them are lies! So I will say yes that lying is apart of this horrid disease.