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Q: How to Stop Hurting & Trust Dishonest Husband?
asked by: lonelyme on October 9th, 2004
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Hi,

this is my first post. I want to apologize ahead of time for dumping all of this on you in my first post, but i'm at the end of my rope and need to get this out to someone other than my best girlfriend.

My husband and I have been married for nine years and we have two children together. When we first met I told him that I am against pornagraphy because I feel that it is the objectification and exploitation of women. He, a senstive guy working on a phd in philosophy, agreed. He also knew that I was anti drugs

fast forward to one to two months into our marriage
shortly after getting married and moving into our new apartment I was cleaning out some closets. There was this utility closet on our apartment patio. I found one of my husband’s pieces of luggage in it. Innocently, I decided to clean it out. Imagine my surprise when I found body paints tucked into one of the pockets. That night when my husband came home I asked him where the body paints came from. He claimed that he had bought them as a surprise for me for the upcoming valentines day. I knew he was lying. I asked again. He lied again. I pretended to believe him and left the room.

A couple of weeks later it was valentines day.
My husband was still a grad student and working as a waiter part time. A new wife, pregnant with his child, I was very excited about valentines day. So I fixed the house up, got him a special card, made a candlelight dinner and a valentines cake. He came home from work late that night. He said it was because the restaurant was busy. He didn't have a card for me or anything. I was devastated. Then when we went to bed he made this big to-do about a surprise that he had for me. He blindfolded me until the surprise was ready. I laid in wait, suddenly I felt this cool wet brush on my pregnant belly. When I removed the blindfold, to my utter horror, he was painting me with the body paints!!!

I shot out of bed immediately. I demanded to know who those body paints belonged to or who they were from. My husband tried to act like a sad little puppy. Like he was hurt that I did not believe that they were something that he bought for me as a surprise. After a great deal of arguing he finally "admitted" that they were old body paints from that an ex girlfriend had given him. I felt then, and still feel, that he was lying. Had his ex given those body paints to him, wouldn't they have used them together – wouldn’t they have at least opened the package? Of course they would have. I believe that those body paints were for another woman or from another woman that he was havign an affair with.

Fast forward to six months into our marriage:
one day I went to get the mail and there was this letter from playboy telling my husband that his subscription was about to expire, and encouraging him to renew.

I confronted him. At first he tried to make up a bunch of lame excuses. Finally he admitted to me that he had a playboy subscription before we were married, and that he had been receiving it for the entire six months of our marriage. I was shocked. It seems that he had been intercepting the mail around the time that the magazine was scheduled to arrive so that I wouldn't know about it. Then he was looking at it when I was not home. I felt sick. I wondered who this man was - how my sensitive husband could be such a liar and manipulator to intercept our mail keep that secret from me for six months, all the while telling me that pornography was the objectification of women.

Fast forward to year five of our marriage[b]
my husband was always staying up late playing computer games. It made me feel very upset, alone and hurt. I would ask him to come to bed, and he would say "soon". When I got angry at him for staying up late he would get mad - say that he worked hard and had a right to play computer games. I asked him if he was looking at pornography. He said absolutely not, and that I should get off his case.

At that time I was a volunteer manager for a nonprofit. One day one of my volunteers was at my home office doing some work on my hard-drive. Suddenly I see this screen that had our entire computer history on it - there I learned that my husband had been sneaking pornography at every possible moment behind my back. This history went back for three years!!!

When my husband got home that night I asked him if he had been viewing pornography online. I wanted to give him the chance to tell the truth. His answer was "no". I asked again, "honey, please tell me the truth. I need to know. Please don't lie to me." again, he said, "no". I kept pressing him. He tried to act like a hurt puppy dog (always his first line of attack). I kept pressing, literally begging for the truth. Soon he began to almost mock me. He said that I was jealous and warped and imagining things. Finally, I said, "i'm going to ask you one last time. This is your opportunity to be honest with me. Have you been looking at pornography online?" he adamantly denied it and said that we didn’' have a good relationship if I couldn't trust him.

Finally I said, "look, I know that you have been looking at it online. I saw it in our records." he looked surprised for a brief moment, then he quickly regained his composure. He then said, "oh, yeah, that must be from that time you and I were playing around on the internet." I said, "no, it wasn't." he tried to insist that it was. I told him flatly, that I was 100% certain that he had been looking at pornography more than that. Then he "admitted" to looking at it a few times. It wasn’t until I told him that I had the history on our computer that he "admitted" to his three year history of sneaking porn behind my back. So, essentially he never admitted it. He just got caught. Just as he had gotten caught with the playboy and gotten caught with the body paints.

As I looked backed I was enraged. There were so many times that he had not completed his responsibilites because, unbeknowst to me at the time, he was looking at porn instead of doing his work. For example when we moved from new york to california I flew out two weeks ahead of time to california to find work and a place to live for our family (we had two kids). He was suppose to pack the house up so that when I went back to new york he and one of my son's could drive back to cali. When I arrived in new york (after flying a red-eye and getting no sleep), I found that the house was in shambles and not packed at all. I was so pissed. To which he got indignant and said that he was busy with his work as a grad student and taking care of our youngest son who I had left with him. So, with me having virtually no sleep, we packed and cleaned our house in about six hours because he hadn't done it during the two weeks while I was in california arranging our housing and looking for work. Looking back at the computer history I realize that the reason he hadn't got our packing done (and many other things) is because he was looking at porn.

After I found out about my husband's porn. And after he refused to tell me the truth, I threatened to leave him. Ultimately I stayed with him and we went through marriage counseling. After about two years I finally started to trust him a bit.

[b]fast forward to 8 years into our marriage and 2 years after I found out about the porn
my husband travels alot for his job. In the past he often turned his phone off - claiming that his phone just "does that" and that it is not intentional. While in marriage counseling the counselor said, "well, why don't you just lock it to on?" that excuse was gone and traveling became less painful for me until the miami incident. My husband went to miami and was scheduling to return home by noon on saturday. He called me at about 2pm on saturday to tell me that he had missed his plane.

I wanted to know exactly why he had missed his plane. He told me that he had slept in. I knew instantly that he had been up to no good, "why did you sleep in - were you out all night?". He admitted that he had been out drinking and dancing at a night club (my husband is not a drinker). He said that he, a female coworker, and a male doctor had been out dancing and drinking til 4am and that when he got to his hotel room he crashed.

I was very upset. Then it got worse. I figured out that he had left his watch in miami. He said that he took it off when he went to sleep and that he must have forgotten to put it on when he got back to the room because he was so tired. My husband never takes off his watch. In fact I have to plead with him to take it off at bedtime, and generally he doesn't agree to do so. Furthermore, why would my husband, who never takes off his watch, decide to take of his watch at 4am when he is dog tired? I'm certain that he was with another woman in miami. I have begged him to admit the truth, but to this day he insists that he is telling the truth.

Fast forward to this year
my best friend, unbeknowst to me or my husband, started dating this guy that works at my husbands company. We ran into them at a company party. After the guy met my husband and i, he said to my friend, "i didn't know that he was married." my friend said, "what?" the guy replied, "well I hear that it's all about john and jane (a 20 year old girl that works with my husband)". My friend kind of lost her cool and started drilling the guy. The guy instantly clammed up and claimed that he just meant that the girl has a crush on my hubby, and nothing more (my husband is above the guy in seniority).

When I asked my husband about the girl he claimed there was nothing to know about her.

Hang up calls
after my husband and I got married I began getting many many hang up calls and wrong numbers. Far more than I had ever gotten in my life (and I had lived on my own and moved around plenty prior to our marriage). Whenever I told my husband that I thought it was strange, he would say, "everybody gets hang up calls" every since my husband got a cell phone we no longer get all the hangup calls and wrong numbers.

I could go on, but I think that you get the picture.

Conclusion
i love my husband deeply. And everyone I know says that he acts as if he is "head over hills in love" with me. In many ways he dotes on me. We have gone to marriage counseling. He comes home every night. But, I still can't rid of this dreadful feeling that he still has not been honest with me. I feel that the fact that he has not told the truth about our past, is indicative of the fact that he is still not ready to be an honest, faithful husband.

He travels about 25% of the time. On top of that he has many days where he works late or goes to work early for business trainings and business dinners. Recently he began an mba program and will be away from home meeting with his study group as well as studying at night. He has not time for me.

I am beside myself with anxiety, lonliness and distrust. I feel that my husbands loves me and wants to be married to me. He wants to be a family man. But I also have this feeling that he uses his work and travel as an excuse and guise for extramarital affairs. I find it very had to trust him. Sometimes, after he's been traveling, he comes home to make love to me. Sometimes he comes home with "new moves". Sometimes he acts super lovey-dovey in bed and looks deep into my eyes and tries to be tender. Instead of enjoying it I feel sick to my stomach. I feel just awful, like I know in my heart that he is a lying cheat. But I keep making love to him so that he won't get upset.

I don't know what to do. I don't know how to trust him. I'm afraid that if I don't trust him that our relationship will end - that he will leave me. I'm afraid that if I do trust him that he will abuse my trust and really cheat is butt off.

Even though he tries to be sweet to me, I feel so alone and anxious most of the time. I fantasize about cheating on him. I do so partly because I want to hurt him as much as I believe that he hurt me, and partly because I am lonely. However, I wouldn’t cheat on him because that would make me a bad person, bad wife, and bad mother.
I fantasize about leaving him. But I love him. He is that father of my children. My children adore their dad. Though lately my oldest son has been making comments that leads me to believe that he feels that his dad is gone to much, and not as attentive a husband to me as he could be. I am financially dependent on my husband. I started a business, but it does not gross enough to support my children and i. I feel trapped by love, financial need and my children’s needs.

Please help. Any suggestions or words of wisdom?
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Daile
replied on October 24th, 2004
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I think you should consider at least separating from your husband, if not divorcing him altogether. He's obviously lied to you about a lot of stuff, and you think he's cheating on you. Just a thought, when you make love, do you use a condom? Because if he is cheating on you, he could give you an std.

As for not having enough money, first of all, you would get child support for your two children, and could probably get alimony as well.

I don't know if this will help or not, but it's a thought.

Daile
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2ferano
replied on October 31st, 2004
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You are obviously an intelligent woman. You don't misspell every other word and use horrible grammar like most of these posts.
Did you read your post? Go back and read it. Can you honestly say you are going to stay with him after re-reading everything he has done to you? You only know what you have caught him doing. You most likely don't want to know all of the other things he has been doing.
"he acts like he is head over heels in love with you" of course. It is all part of the front. Plus, most women who actually stoop low enough to be with a married man will do so with men who act like they adore their wife. Because they want to be the one adored.
The above post is right! You will get child support for both kids. Also, if you get proof that he is cheating which would be so darn easy. Hire a private investigator. All you need is one picture of him with the other woman and you can come out with almost everything in the divorce and rightfully so.
Get away from that freak! Dont be stupid!
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xvee
replied on December 27th, 2005
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Horrible..
This kind of remind me of my boyfriend and me a while back. I would leave the man. It takes him how many years to finally treat you like a woman, and thats if he really is.
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mlake11
replied on January 25th, 2009
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I can relate
Hey. I'm sorry about your situation and I understand. Actually, I completely relate, which is why I am even on this site.
I've been married 15 years, with two beautiful children. Pretty much the same situation as you -- over the course of many years. I really understand your feelings right now and I'm sorry for you.
It usually happens for us like this: he does something inappropriate (porno on family computer or hiding magazines under the mattress-- when I'm 7 months pregnant), I feel hurt, he says he understands, then I get over it gradually, then it happens again. Each time, I think-- should I be upset? is it really so bad?
I've always felt that being w/my children is the most important. We separated about 10 years ago, for a brief time, because of this and his marijuana use in the home. During that time, I never cried so much-- I missed my son horribly when he spent time with my husband (he was only 3 at the time). I sort of made up mind to make it work and raise our children together. However, I often regret getting back together--especially when he I find porno on the computer again.
My children are getting older, and I am torn between leaving and sticking things out until the kids move out.
You are probably younger and have younger children, so I hope that you can take this opportunity to invest in a counselor for you-- someone that will help you find the answer. Only you can answer the question stay or go... the hard part is choosing to answer it. Once you decide, yes I'm going to stay or yes I'm going to leave him-- then stand by your decision and move forward. You will be stronger for it.
I'll be thinking of you and do wish you all the best.
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craftagain
replied on January 31st, 2009
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take a look at yourself
Unless you have a magic crystal ball, there is no way that you could "know" your husband was doing anything other than what he says he is doing. Maybe he's faithful, maybe's he's not. But if you want love and faitfulness, then YOU must act it. Thinking negative is not acting with love.
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regretting
replied on July 30th, 2009
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maybe
It is possible I don't know what I'm talking about, but here is my experience

I don't understand what is so upsetting about the paint, I think if my husband would have thought of painting my preg belly it would have been very special, sweet and romantic. It seems you were so suspicious of him way in the beginning. I didn't hear anything that seemed like evidence of cheating in the first half of your post but you were already convinced. Of course he would lie about the porn if he knew you would be so angry. You might push him away from you. and then regret it later. My husband was actually quite abusive and did cheat on me, so i left him, but it has taken four years to start getting over it, I miss him so much and still wish i hadn't divorced him. Because I still love him and wish we could have worked it out. I hate raising our daughter with out him.

Focus for a minute on how much you actually LOVE him.

How are you going to feel seeing him with a new girlfriend if you let him go. I wanted to die when I saw him with his new girlfriend after i said i thought it was over between the two of us. i left him for being such a jerk . but he just moved on before we even talked about getting a divorce, so i divorced him two months after i knew about gf.

I will always regret it, I wish i had shown him how much i loved him, but i could not because i was so angry
I Miss my husband and i wish he was still mine, he won't come home to me no matter what i say, he is sticking with her. Everyone has a dark side and a light. If you divorce him, you wlll still get his dark side for many years because of the children but you might not get the light side of him anymore Are you going to miss him? I thought that i would not, i thought i was sick and tired of him.

About porn-
You may think I'm crazy but i am very honest
I had my own subscription to playboy one year, before i was married. While i am NOT lesbian, and I have never wanted to actually have sex with women, i think women's bodies are very sexy and i get turned on looking at them, I even watched internet porn with my lover cause it turns me on even more than it does him. I don't get jealous when men look at porn because those women aren't a representation of real women, of all our body shapes and sizes and ages. I think men actually love REAL
women more than porn but it is still a turn on so why be ashamed,
I like it. You are the REAL WOMEN In his life, you are the mother of His children LOVE him while he is still yours, don't let him get away, don't act out of fear

Unless he treats you horribly, makes you feel bad about yourself, says mean things to you. Does he do that?

It is important to trust your partner but think things through very carefully, what if he is not a cheater?

What are the things you appreciate about him?

It is possible I don't know what I am talking about
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AuntieN
replied on July 31st, 2009
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He sounds like a Destructive Narcissist. Do some research on that sort of man - and get some counseling for YOU. It's up to him to win your trust by his actions - which he doesn't seem to be doing.
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