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Demore
on October 10th, 2004
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I'm not a guy....I don't have a girlfriend...I was on the pill and I can't take it. I use condoms. But in those odd occasions that it either breaks or in even rarer occasions there isn't any. That is how I react. I strongly agree with contraception despite my complete and utter hate for condoms and implants. I supose I can't expect anyone to take me completely serious, so I guess i'm going to have to get used to being seen as making humourous veiws on procreation. But I certainly wasn't trying to be funny.
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2ferano
replied on October 10th, 2004
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It all just comes down to personal preference. I can see everyone's point here and find it horrible to be making fun of someone because they don't agree with you.
A lot of women do feel the way that demore does. I can definately see her point. I am not here to be a baby factory either.

And it is disrespectful when you told him not too! That is the bottom line here. Regardless of what it is that you don't like or want done to you and no matter how ridiculous it seems to someone else, it is disrespectful to do something to someone that you know they don't like and that they asked you not to.
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Demore
replied on October 11th, 2004
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It's not the baby factory thing that really disturbs me, becuase in this day and age it's quiet clear that women have other roles besides pumping out flesh *sneer*. But just the concept of creating life forms that are a genetic mix of me and somother person with no intenstion but to live, which means use up money time selfishly demand everything it can grow up become more expensive and then leave after finally bonding with them on an equal level. Well love or not it seems plain pointless. I'll leave the population increasing to the people who want to go though the pain to bring up a leech. I'll adopt if I get the urge to have a child. There is enough deprived children out there why create chances for more?
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oangelc543
replied on October 12th, 2004
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Honestly, I find letting a guy go in my mouth really degrading. I've only done it for one guy, 4 years ago and i'll never do it again. It's awful

and I guess some people have different views on sex and parenthood all together...

I'm 15 and i'm pregnant. I'm not married, i'm not engaged.. You can think whatever you want of me.. I'm trying my hardest here and I will continue to for the rest of my life for me and my child

people can judge me all they want, but heyalways remember, nobody is perfect. :d
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Daile
replied on October 13th, 2004
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Honestly, I can't tell the difference. I can, however, tell the difference if he is wearing a condom, and I really do not like that feeling. I mean, if I wanted to feel rubber, I would buy a vibrator. Maybe not the healthiest view on sex, but it's worked well for me.

Also, the whole discussion on it being degrading to have it in your mouth...That's a personal decision. I know a lot of people who won't even consider oral sex because it's "gross," but I personally enjoy giving head, and I like the taste of semen. That's just me, tho.

Daile
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Demore
replied on October 13th, 2004
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Yeah, mind you everyone tastes different so some aren't awful while others taste like rotten goats milk. I rekon if you can't suck on one, you shouldn't be having sex. I know it's only my opinion but I think it's impracticall to have sex before actually understanding their body. And felatio and cunninglingus while is about pleasing your partner it's also about understanding them too.

There are too many women that are ignorant to their sexuality and that of their partners by being penis scared and going strait in to sex. Just because you make the effort to please your man, or understand how you would start to doesn't mean your a promiscuous person. It's about doing somthing for somone to show them how important they are in your life. And vice versa. Now if giving somone head is "gross" why would having unprotected sex be any better? Understandably you can't taste it, but at the same time it causes more worry and is harder to clean. Again with the coment about "that's where pee comes from" what about lickouts? Not only that but semen while has no urea content which means it has no contact with pee. And lastly though urine is commonly believed to be 'dirty' this is not actually the case. In cases of kidney or urinary tract infection (uti) the urine will contain bacteria, but otherwise urine is virtually sterile.

Either way letting somone cum in your mouth is wrong. You don't let somone do it, it is always your choice. But at least get the facts right.
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jonesy
replied on October 14th, 2004
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Demore stated:

"i'll leave the population increasing to the people who want to go though the pain to bring up a leech. I'll adopt if I get the urge to have a child. There is enough deprived children out there why create chances for more?"


sorry, but you don't know what someone else has been through in life, so maybe you should start thinking before you write some of your comments. Children are not leeches!!! They are one of lifes most wonderful gifts. What happened in your life to make you so angry?
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Demore
replied on October 14th, 2004
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These are not openended comments they are opinions. I believe I should be able to express what I think of children without being judged as having a bad past!

Children to me feed off their parents money or assests and time, without giving anything material in return. This to me is a leech. The "loving bond" between parent and child I am not concernd about neither do I refer to. So please don't inflict your beliefs of euphoric baby suprises!

If you really want to pick at somthing that is different or awkward about my past that would coaxe me to talk this way, your not going to find one. I'm no "holy holy" and I have never felt comfortable with the concept of family and romanticism. There is something false about it I can't put my name on. But this does not mean I have family issues so don't make that assumption, or some twisted past.

Thanks for your fasle concern, I really apriciate it when people show they care.
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jonesy
replied on October 15th, 2004
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I don't think anyone here is trying to inflict any aspects of life upon you. We, just as you have the right to say how we feel. I have four children and believe me they are not "leeches". It is a choice to have a child and how you take care and raise them is up to you. The only way a child becomes dependant is if you let them. If you don't want children, that is up to you, but don't offend those that do have them!!
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Sillybulanston
replied on March 2nd, 2005
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Demore, learn to spell. =d
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Csesium
replied on December 19th, 2005
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Yes demore, you and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. However...I am so very greatful that there aren't many people out there that feel the same way you do, or the human race would be doomed. I do have problems with your opinions though, mainly because you contradict yourself in several places, and your entire arguments for your opinions are full of illogical reasoning. I for the life of me cannot understand why you or anyone else would think a man ejaculating in you is degrading, especially considering the alternative you appear to use (i.E., cuming on your back, stomach, or in your mouth). I can understand a person thinking that if the man considered it degrading as well, but I don't think most men who cum in a woman think of it as degrading, especially when they want to create a child with the woman! And in that case, it's love in the man's mind, not degredation! In the other case, where the man and woman are having sex for fun, if the man cums in the woman, or the woman wants the man to cum in her, it's probably for the sensation rather than degredation.

Also, if you consider children leeches....Then you are calling every human that has ever existed a leech...That includes yourself, and that is degrading yourself...So it's like you were a man and came in yourself...Did you ever think of that? As I keep reading your arguments over again your reasoning boggles my mind more and more. How can you say "if someone goes on my back it sends me a good message that he's enjoyed himself"? Doesn't the fact he came at all, reguardless of in what or onto what, that he had a good time? So shouldn't a guy that cums in you send you a message he had a good time? Your arguments don't make any sense! And if you say it would take boiling water and a pressure washer to clean out your vagina if a guy came in you, why on earth wouldn't you need those things to clean your skin or your mouth? Especially your mouth! You eat through that! I'm all for people speaking their minds...But please, make sure your arguments work with each other and they make sense before you start spouting them out like a water fountain.
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Tylanas
replied on December 20th, 2005
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Re: Human Leeches
demore wrote:
well i'll explain myself a little more. I have a grave fear of becomming pregnate and I hate small children. To me being cumed into is an insult. Because the image I get of mother is really demented. Being cumed into pretty much says that's all your worth. You were born for making children and that's all you'll ever be. And if I tell them not to and they do it anyway I think of it as pathetic because they can't handle themselves. I tend to see those people as low life from then on. If you see my mind set (which I know isn't many other peoples) perhas you'd understand where i'm comming from. A shower just doesn't cut it unless your using boiling water on a presure system. I don't worry about the smell, it's my vagina smelling like it which I don't like. If somone goes on my back it sends me a good message that he's enjoyed himself. On the stomach is more of a personal thing it means to me kinda the same thing only we both enjoyed ourselves emensely and in the mouth (not on the face, I don't ever do that) is a sacrifice. I only do this when I really really really care for somone. And all I want to do is make them happy. Early morning head while they are still sleeping, I like to live for my partners, as long as they please me. Yes I do wash afterwards, when it comes to making sure i'm clean i'm a bloody natzi. Now i'm sorry if you don't quiet understand me. But i'll put it in to a quick perspective. To me being cummed into is just as or even more so disgraceful as taking it on the face to me. And not even 1million could get me to do it.


i personally don't think it's degrading anywhere my bf ejaculates on me. But that's because we both respect each other, and we are equals in our sexual relationship. Nothing he does during sex is meant to make me less than he is, or vice versa. It's just a body fluid. I'm on birth control, and I prefer him to come inside of me because it make clean up easier; I just walk to the bathroom. Condoms make it even easier, and we do still have sex with condoms especially if we want to go straight from anal sex to vaginal (just chuck off the condom and look, clean penis!).


If the relationship between the partners is equal, then semen, no matter where it ends up (stomach can be sexy too ;) ) is just the final end of your lovemaking on his part.

And my bf is vegetarian, so his semen tastes rather good. I love giving him oral sex, because then i'm the one in control, making him moan.
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acoles70
replied on December 20th, 2005
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I pray you never have children demore! They deserve better than you. And if australia is smart they wouldn't let you adopt either!
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babykitty23
replied on December 21st, 2005
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acoles70 wrote:
i pray you never have children demore! They deserve better than you. And if australia is smart they wouldn't let you adopt either!


that was rude. She has an opinion, leave it at that. I too don't want children, that doesn't make me a bad person. I too don't very much like children, especially babies>.< doesn't make me a bad person.

Anyways, my husband usually cums inside of me, and I think it feels really good, but getting a shot in the face, back, ass, whatever, can be kinky and fun. But usually he cums inside of me=)
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Fudgecake
replied on December 21st, 2005
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I love a guy to cum inside me its just wen he withdraws his penius after and it just comes straight back down again thats when I feel digraded but other than that its great
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Tylanas
replied on December 22nd, 2005
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fudgecake wrote:
i love a guy to cum inside me its just wen he withdraws his penius after and it just comes straight back down again thats when I feel digraded but other than that its great


no part of sex should feel degrading to you or anyone else. No one can help the fact that gravity makes semen slide out of a vagina when sex is over, that's just nature.

Degrading is when a man beats a woman, shoves his penis in her mouth, and uses her face as an artificial vagina in order to show his superiorty. Degrading is when a woman is raped, in any way shap or form. I think you all need to re-define what you consider degrading, because it is a rather strong word to be used to describe the natural happenings of love making between two caring partners.
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munky23
replied on December 23rd, 2005
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Definetly inside. I love the feeling and I know when he's done without it being ackward.
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Malory
replied on December 26th, 2005
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Just wanted to comment that even if the guy pulls out, you can still get pregnant because a little bit of semen can leak out before he actually comes.
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Jon1138
replied on January 22nd, 2006
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In Defense
I think demore is the most admirable person here, she -- unlike your average fool who simply follows society's norms and lives in the box -- actually has the courage to challenge tradition and look at a situation logically. There is little logical advantage, if any at all, for an intelligent, motivated person to have kids. There is no debating -- kids are leeches. They are huge time committments, they are huge money investments, and you don't get anything tangible out of the whole experience.

There need to be more women in the world who aren't pre-programmed morons who get to 25 (!! Young!!) and say, "oh my god, I better get married and start pumping out kids." gee, welcome to the world of mediocrity. If you have kids, there is little chance you will ever be great. You will always be a tool, especially the woman, who is 99% of the time expected to do much more raising kids than guys. Don't fool yourself about equality -- guys don't raise kids, girls do. There are hardly any exceptions. Oh, sure, the guy takes the kid to a soccer game, yeah he might help here or there, a few times, but it's not likely to happen often. You're still stuck changing diapers (let's face it, most guys will not do this if they have any self-respect whatsoever), feeding the kid, and very possibly staying home and raising them. Your life is over, you now are a tool of the next generation.

At least demore has the courage to realize that this is a bad deal for women. Hey, i'm greatful I had such a nice childhood and my parents gave me so much, but let's face it, that doesn't mean I have to repeat their mistake. Usually it's boring or bored people who have kids. In the case of my parents, my mom obviously really wanted kids so she stayed home, and my dad has never had to do much of the, how shall we say, "hard work" aspect of it, so he just gets the fun part like watching football games with me and going fishing and camping, etc. I have far too many goals, personal goals, to bother wasting time on noseminers. I hate kids and I hate babies. They are a worthless waste of time.

It's refreshing to see someone like demore who actually says, no, screw this crap, it's a bad deal for girls, so no thanks. Good riddance, there need to be more strong women out there like that. I hope I can find one some day, amidst the masses of mediocre ticking biological time bombs in the world.
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babykitty23
replied on January 23rd, 2006
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Re: In Defense
jon1138 wrote:
i think demore is the most admirable person here, she -- unlike your average fool who simply follows society's norms and lives in the box -- actually has the courage to challenge tradition and look at a situation logically. There is little logical advantage, if any at all, for an intelligent, motivated person to have kids. There is no debating -- kids are leeches. They are huge time committments, they are huge money investments, and you don't get anything tangible out of the whole experience.


There need to be more women in the world who aren't pre-programmed morons who get to 25 (!! Young!!) and say, "oh my god, I better get married and start pumping out kids." gee, welcome to the world of mediocrity. If you have kids, there is little chance you will ever be great. You will always be a tool, especially the woman, who is 99% of the time expected to do much more raising kids than guys. Don't fool yourself about equality -- guys don't raise kids, girls do. There are hardly any exceptions. Oh, sure, the guy takes the kid to a soccer game, yeah he might help here or there, a few times, but it's not likely to happen often. You're still stuck changing diapers (let's face it, most guys will not do this if they have any self-respect whatsoever), feeding the kid, and very possibly staying home and raising them. Your life is over, you now are a tool of the next generation.


At least demore has the courage to realize that this is a bad deal for women. Hey, i'm greatful I had such a nice childhood and my parents gave me so much, but let's face it, that doesn't mean I have to repeat their mistake. Usually it's boring or bored people who have kids. In the case of my parents, my mom obviously really wanted kids so she stayed home, and my dad has never had to do much of the, how shall we say, "hard work" aspect of it, so he just gets the fun part like watching football games with me and going fishing and camping, etc. I have far too many goals, personal goals, to bother wasting time on noseminers. I hate kids and I hate babies. They are a worthless waste of time.


It's refreshing to see someone like demore who actually says, no, screw this crap, it's a bad deal for girls, so no thanks. Good riddance, there need to be more strong women out there like that. I hope I can find one some day, amidst the masses of mediocre ticking biological time bombs in the world.


hey, i'm a cf woman too!!!
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