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Q: Wic?
asked by: lilmama2b_oct04 on July 14th, 2004
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Ok can I get denied for wic if my mom and stepdad make too much money? After the baby is born, if I do get accepted for wic, will I have to go re-apply for wic for the baby? And will I get accepted no matter what once I have the baby, no matter how much money my parents make? My mom and stepdad make in between $22-$24 and hour each, is that gonna be too much if it does matter? Kevin really wants me to get on wic, but I dont want to even bother if my parents make too much and it will be a waste of my time, or if I have to go re-do everything once the baby is born to continue getting it, since im almost done being preggy.
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/
Okay, I have done a lot of research on this. First if you apply for it now and get accepted your baby is automatically accepted. Next I am not sure if you have done this yet, but to get on wic you have to go to a doc and get a wic-17 form filled out. It is a referral form. Most people think that just b/c they don't make a lot of money and are having a baby that they can get on wic ,and it is not true. You must meet the requirements categorical ,residential ,income ,and nutrition risk. And since you are so far along, you really can't manipulate this a little to get on it, but someone that is where I am can. Okay I am copping and pasting now. But wait all of this info is at this site http://www.Fns.Usda.Gov/wic/ .Go look.

Categorical requirement
the wic program is designed to serve certain categories of women, infants, and children. Therefore, the following individuals are considered categorically eligible for wic:

women -- pregnant (during pregnancy and up to 6 weeks
after the birth of an infant or the end of the
pregnancy)
-- postpartum (up to six months after the birth of
the infant or the end of the pregnancy)
-- breastfeeding (up to the infant's first birthday)
infants (up to the infant's first birthday)
children (up to the child's fifth birthday)


residential requirement
applicants must live in the state in which they apply. Applicants served in areas where wic is administered by an indian tribal organization (ito) must meet residency requirements established by the ito. At state agency option, applicants may be required to live in a local service area and apply at a wic clinic that serves that area. Applicants are not required to live in the state or local service area for a certain amount of time in order to meet the wic residency requirement.
Income requirement
to be eligible for wic, applicants must have income at or below an income level or standard set by the state agency or be determined automatically income-eligible based on participation in certain programs.

Income standard the state agency's income standard must be between 100 percent of the federal poverty guidelines (issued each year by the department of health and human services), but cannot be more than 185 percent of the federal poverty income guidelines.
Automatic income eligibility certain applicants can be determined income-eligible for wic based on their participation in certain programs. These included individuals:
-- eligible to receive food stamps, medicaid, for temporary assistance for needy families (tanf, formerly known as afdc, aid to families with dependent children),
-- in which certain family members are eligible to receive medicaid or tanf, or
-- at state agency option, individuals that are eligible to participate in certain other state-administered programs.

Nutrition risk requirement
applicants must be seen by a health professional such as a physician, nurse, or nutritionist who must determine whether the individual is at nutrition risk. In many cases, this is done in the wic clinic at no cost to the applicant. However, this information can be obtained from another health professional such as the applicant's physician.

"nutrition risk" means that an individual has medical-based or dietary-based conditions. Examples of medical-based conditions include anemia (low blood levels), underweight, or history of poor pregnancy outcome. A dietary-based condition includes, for example, a poor diet.

At a minimum, the applicant's height and weight must be measured and bloodwork taken to check for anemia.

An applicant must have at least one of the medical or dietary conditions on the state's list of wic nutrition risk criteria.
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Lol none of that crap makes any sense to me... Thanks anyways though... Can anyone answer if its possible that my parents make too much so I cant get on it (considering I "live with my parents" not kevin).... I think I remember a post about somebody not getting accepted since somebody in their household made too much money (it was a parent or something, not boyfriend/baby's daddy). And after the baby is born, does it matter how much money they make?
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PregnaJordan
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Well wic is definetlly not hard to get! Im sure u can get it---are u on medicaid? How old are you? Im 17 and it goes by income of the people who I live with but they dont check it so I lied Surprised-- if u get it while ur preggo..They give u just enough for the preg. And when uhave the baby u have to go back and get your postpardom wic vouchers and the baby will b set up ona seperate wic account for formula/cereal---

**if ur on medicaid, u can get w.I.C.!**~at least down here--

--all u need is a bill showing proof of residency, id card, medicaid if ur on it--if not proof of income(but a medicaid card is a proof of income-get it?) and u'll answer a bunch of questions about what u eat..Its nuts but u'll get it more than likely

**oh yea, u need a statement from ur Dr. Saying ur preggo or they will give u a piss test!Lol**
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Lilmama at your parents house how many people live there including you?

Ohh and jordan, yours is kind of like ours ,accept you have to go back and forth during pregnancy to get the vouchers (they don't just give us enough for the whole pregnancy, and if you get it your baby automatically does down here but you still have to take them with you to the wic office to get you vouchers the first time. But like if u r on mediacid you automatically get it.
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Ok, its me, my sister, my mom and my stepdad that live there... Im not on medicaid, im under my stepdads insurance that he gets through work, and im 17, I wont be 18 til next may. I dont have a job, but my mom makes $22/hr, and my stepdad makes $24/hr.... So will they check that since im not on medicaid, is that what you meant by that jordan? Im sure thats more than enough money, im sure I wont get accepted. Can you like prove yourself independent after the baby is born, so you can at least get help with baby stuff, so you dont have to be dependent on your parents, for your own childs stuff?
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Great news. I just called the wic office down here and the woman told me ,that all you have to do is go to the doc ,and have a wic 17 form filled out. And b/c you live with kevin (your boyfriend), just tell them that and instead of going by your parent's income or kevin's income they'll will go by yours. And since you don't work it is $0, so you most def qualify in that area. Just take your wic-17 form (after you go to the doc), picture i.D. , and proof of address (get a letter sent from somewhere to the apartment) ,and go to the closet wic office, and they'll sign you up!
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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But the thing is that I cant say that I live with kevin or I will loose my insurance from my stepdad cuz it only covers me if I live there, but his insurance doesnt cover my baby, but kevins insurance covers the baby. Also I am not on the lease here, and I cant be on the lease. All I know is I cant loose this insurance right now or I am screwed when I go into labor.
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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I know, but when you go to the wic office they don't care about insurance. That is not even something that they ask. And eventhough you are not on the lease you can stillget mail there. #1 they don't have the right to look through people's mail ,and #2 haven't you ever gotten mail at family members address or something? People do it all of the time ,like my brother. A lot of his mail comes here and he lives in indiana. So all I am saying is just send off for a free magazine or better yet some college info, and they'll happily send to the apartment. Then just take that as proof of address. And I can see why you are worried about the insurance, but if you ack your doc to fill out a wic 17 form for you, they may not think that you qualify b/c of your parents income, but they still have to fill it out and they are never notified if you get on wic or not. And on top of that private insurance ,has nothing to do with the government, so the insurance comapny can't find out that you are on wic, and therefore you can't lose your insurance. So calm down, and get the stuff that you need, you'll get it. And if you are that worried about insurance apply for medicaid, since you say if you don't live with your parents the insurance won't cover you, that means that you qualify for medicaid, and they don't care who you live with. So you can do it either way. If you want more info just post or pm me.
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*j@ydynsmama*
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Just from wutu said I dont think ud qualify based on their income---since ur not emancipated or 18 they go by parents
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Ok I cant tell the government that I live with kevin, for 1: im not 18, so legally I cant move out til im 18 unless I get emancipated. For 2: I dont want the government questioning why a 17year old is living with a 21 year old, let alone having sex with him, and getting pregnant. And for 3: I dont want to risk any chances of loosing my insurance at least until after the baby is born, since my parents will pay for everything right now, and I want to keep everything simple without having to get onto medicaid and crap... I dont want to be on medicaid at all... After my stepdads insurance doesnt cover me, me and kevin can get married, and his insurance will cover me. I dont want to get stuck with these bills. ~i cant say im living here for various reasons~. I just want to keep everything plain and simple until I turn 18. Once im 18, I dont care where I say im living, but for now, im a minor, I live at home with mommy and daddy.
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tweety12986
replied on July 14th, 2004
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I am not quite sure what the requirements are for wic but my friends mom's friend (sorry I know its confusing) was trying to get it and she ended up having to say she didnt know who the baby's father was and she already had a low income, and my mom said she didnt know who the father was to get wic too, though I am not sure why that is a factor its seems important. Is it not ok for 17 year olds to move out if they have their parents permission cuz here it is ok.
Meagan
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Its stupid here, you can move out with their permission, but you have to move back after 30 days. I dont know why, but its stupid. My friend moved out and moved in with her bf and thought it was ok, and she was talking to the social worker at school about something and said something about not living at home no more, and the social worker was like "im really sorry, but I have to report this, you cant legally move out" and danielle said "oh im doing the 30 day thing" and then the social worker was like ok. I dunno, its just all messed up, thats why im just going to live my life as it is and just say im at home with my mom. Everythings complicated enough as it is.
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nikki_caro
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Well have you gone into a wic office and filled out the forms? Its not as hard as you think. Just say that its only your mom and lower her income. They dont do backround checks or anything. Its really easy to get on it. I did. I thought I would get denied but I didnt. You should make an appointment and try anyways
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bd1012
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Move in and out again? I moved out of my parents house when I was 16 and that was approved by the court. You need to live in md. I live with my bf now and no one has a problem with it. My social worker had no problem with it although there were reasons behind it other than I just wanted to move out that my social worker was concerned with. I don't have her anymore. It might have been my situation now that I think about it. Anways good luck.
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Well go to e website I gave you ,and find your state website on there. They will have a list of wic offices and ther numbers, give one of them a call and ask about you living with your bf being 17, don't tell them about the insurance thing with your parents. B/c that is what I did, and I asked if it was a problem if I lived with my boyfriend and the woman told me no. She said if I didn't live with my parents she would just go by my income $0.
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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The thing is I ~cannot~ say im living with kevin... It is ~illegal~ here. Im just going to wait til the baby is born and kevin can go get on wic. He only needs partial custody to be able to get on it, and with his pay, he will qualify. I even talked to my mom and she said I wont qualify when im living at home with them. They really make too much money, and since im not 18, and not emancipated, like jordan said, they will go by my parents income.
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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Okay I see what you are saying ,but I am trying to explain to you that down here you just can't up and go live where you want when u r a minor ,but in all states pregnant women have more privilages. So just call and ask, and it's not like when you call the will ask you for all of your info, cuz they won't. It's just a phone call. It can't hurt.
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lilmama2b_oct04
replied on July 14th, 2004
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I dont know what I would be calling for though, I know I wont apply, since they go by my parents income, and I know it is illegal for me to live with kevin, pregnant or not, im still a minor so I will still be living at home, so no matter what I say to them, im not going to apply, and im not going to lie about who is living there, and how much my mom and stepdad make. Its just going to be plain and simple, kevin is going to get on it after the baby is born. I dont want it for my pregnancy, I dont want it for myself, I just want it for the baby, and kevin can do that since I wont apply. That way, no risks of loosing insurance, no risks of bothersome crap from the government for me.
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newlife
replied on July 14th, 2004
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I just want you to call and tell them the truth you are 17 live with your bf,and want to apply, and then just ask if it is possible. If you lived with your gm it would go by your income and not hers so the same thing may apply hre. Besides it is just a phone call.
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