I had a serious fall 18 years ago.
Shortly after my accident and recovery
from a broken heel & wrist I noticed a
nodule in my right lower back that would
move around or dissappear if I pushed on
it. Although I reported this to my
orthopedic surgeon nothing was done and
the nodule either disappeared or just
hardened in place. I soon developed
intermittent lower back pain on my right
side and persistent numbness/pain on the
outside of my right hip. I was told I
should ignore this issue unless my leg
muscles began to weaken. So 16 years have
passed and this issue only grows worse.
Sometimes my entire leg will be
unresponsive until I change position or
give a good shake. Lately I have been
having some residual numbness in my foot
and toes after these incidents. I have
read about the episacral lipoma as a
possible cause. Any one have comments?
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DESAVIEW888
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Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Location: MALAYSIA
Posted: 07-14-04 04:37am
A strength and a weakness of westren
approach to illness and recovery is over
specialisation in terms of cause and
effect. Whatever the cause or technical
name, sounds to me tai chi or chi kung
exercises should help you. What your body
needs is a wholistic approach. It need
chi energy, oxygen, general movements, and
a good non acidic constitution will surely
reduce your pain.
I would like to hear from you in your own
words whether you have done your best in
terms of keeping your body fit and
flexible, move /exercise properly and
careful to stay away from acidic food and
taking care of your posture.
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apeni
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Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 2
Episacral Lipoma Posted: 07-25-04 16:39pm
I'm an operating room nurse and if there
is only 1 thing i've learned working there
- it's that nothing gets smaller and goes
away - everything just gets bigger and
more complicated. What could easily be
removed in 10 mins under local anesthesia
will eventually need general anesthesia
and probably wrap itself around nerves and
muscles. Of course i'm not referring to
everything but i'd surely get it taken
out.
If one doctor won't do it - go to another
and another.
I had one on my right side and it
definitely causes chronic dull pain.
These are right next to the natural
dimples in the sacral area.
Good luck.
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apeni
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Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 2
Episacral Lipomas Posted: 07-25-04 16:43pm
Dynamic chiropractic
september 4, 2000, volume 18, issue 19
low back pain and episacral lipomas
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by david bond,dc
a cause of low back pain and disability
often overlooked by practitioners who
treat patients suffering from acute and
chronic musculoskeletal complaints is the
episacral lipoma. Although usually
thought of as a minor condition, it is
capable of producing considerable low back
pain.
First described by ries in 1937,1
episacral lipomas are small, tender,
"tumor-like" nodules occurring mainly over
the sacroiliac region which can cause
disabling low back pain. The term
"lipoma" is descriptive only in that
through direct palpation over the region,
the examiner is able to detect a
subcutaneous mass similar to the benign
tumors; however, it is not a tumor, but is
subfascial fat which has herniated through
the overlying fascial layer.
Perhaps a better term is that of the
lumbar fat herniation as described in 1944
by copeman and ackerman.2 in their
research, they reported 10 cases of severe
and disabling low back pain in which they
identified the fatty tumors as the
principle cause of the patient's
complaints. They subsequently excised the
herniation, which produced striking relief
of the pain. In 1945, hertz reported the
cases of six women with excruciating low
back pain.3 all of the women had a history
of a traumatic strain prior to its
occurrence of, which was sometimes
accompanied by unilateral leg pain. The
low back pain in all six women was
dramatically relieved by the removal of a
herniated fat tumor.
In a followup study by copeman and
ackerman, 11 new cases were described.4 in
all 11 patients, a biopsy confirmed the
presence of edematous fat lobules
herniating through deficiencies of the
fibrous compartments. It was felt that
the pain was produced in the fibro-fatty
tissue and not in the musculature
itself.
Hucherson and gandy reported in 1948 that
of 32 patients who had undergone surgical
removal of the lipoma, only two patients
failed to experience relief of pain.5 many
other researchers have reported that in
patients with backaches and occurrence of
the nodules, relief was obtained
immediately by injection of a local
anesthetic and some by operation. At
times, dramatic relief was obtained, and
there was no recurrence of pain over
time.6,7,8,9 in a study by singewald,10
1,000 persons were evaluated for lipomas.
They were found in 16% of the subjects;
however, only 10% had reported back pain.
Therefore, it is not an uncommon finding
in the general population, although it is
usually asymptomatic.
Fat herniations occur in predictable sites
along the edge of the sacrospinalis muscle
just above the iliac crest, very close to
the natural "dimple" in the sacroiliac
area.10 in this area, through abnormal
tension, trauma, or by inherent weaknesses
of the fascia, as well as through foramina
for cutaneous nerves, the underlying fat
pad may herniate through the fibrous
tissue between the superficial and deep
layers. Copeman and ackerman4 mapped the
basic fat pattern of the lumbar region
from 14 cadaver studies with reference to
the most common sites for the occurrence
of fat herniations, which were felt to be
extremely corresponding. The researchers
reported that during dissections, it was
not uncommon to find the fascia to be of
non-uniform thickness. They also found
actual deficiencies of the fascia in which
underlying fat tended to bulge through.
In addition, they were able to describe
three basic types of herniations:
pedunculated, nonpedunculated and
foraminal. The nonpedunculated hernia
appears as a tense swollen nodule, which
protrudes frequently along the iliac
crest. Pedunculated hernias have the
appearance of a strangulated polyp through
the fascia connected by a fibrous pedicle.
In the foraminal type, the fat herniates
through the foramina containing the
cutaneous branches of the posterior rami
of the first three lumbar nerves as they
pierce the deep fascia after leaving the
body of the muscle. A horizontal fold of
membrane acts as a valve that prevents the
herniation from occurring during flexion
of the back; however, a failure to
function normally may result in a
herniation. Of the three, the
nonpedunculated herniation appears to be
the most common. Biopsy of the specimens
revealed that they were composed entirely
of normal adipose tissue with some edema
present. In some cases, there was
evidence of patches of fibrous tissue
growing in the fatty tissue and others
with nerve tissue present; however, this
has not been a consistent finding. From a
clinical standpoint, the mechanism of pain
is not fully understood; however, pain
appears to be the primary feature, which
seems to be due to the expansion of the
fat herniation in the otherwise unyielding
fibrous capsule, in that removal of the
lipoma alleviates the pain.
The pain pattern of the fat herniation
originates in a focal region; however, it
may radiate in an ill-defined distribution
and may be variable in intensity and
duration.9 upon palpation, the patient is
usually able to describe the exact point
of extreme, or pinpoint, tenderness. It
is different from a trigger point as
described by travell13 in that the
examiner can palpate a definite mass
rather than a taut band of skeletal
muscle. However, like a myofascial
trigger point, firm pressure may produce
pain that radiates in a general and
segmental distribution.11
depending upon the severity of the pain,
there may be a restriction of the lumbar
range of motion, and the pain may increase
with positioning.9 there may well be a
significant degree of paraspinal muscle
spasming which may also be related to the
referred pain, as well as the nature of
the original incident.2 no specific
structural abnormality of the spine has
been identified. Nerve root traction
tests are usually normal, with a
production of primarily low back and
sacral pain upon testing, unless there is
a concomitant disc herniation.8 reports of
pain radiating down the side affected with
the lipoma are frequent; however, there is
no uniformity of the radiation area.5
diagnosis is usually confirmed by the
injection of local anesthetic, which
significantly alleviates the pain, at
least temporarily.12
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 07-25-04 16:50pm
I have learned to avoid sugery at all
costs due to post durgical scar tissue,
you fix one thing and the next thing gets
weaker every time.
This does sound like it might be a
different situation.
Good luck and god bless!
Sincerely,
sandy
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Flesh_of_the_Gods
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Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Out of Bounds
Posted: 10-04-04 19:26pm
I doubt the lipoma is causing any sensory
problems in the feet. It mostly is a
cause for local, and some radiating pain,
typically, down into the buttock.
Ive scene a number of these, and have
found they generally respond well to
vigourous massage *around* the lipoma,
rather than over it - which mainly just
aggravates the pain.
Ice can be used afterwards to prevent any
excessive fibrosis at the massage site.
Various myofascial effleurage techniques
can be used between vigourouss massage to
encourage circulation and reduce tissue
degrangement of new scar tissue formation.
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seeking
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Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 1 Location: Nebraska
Episacral Posted: 12-03-04 16:35pm
Hello,
I am seeking information concerning the
sacral iliac joint. Not sure if this
subject is the same thing? Would like to
find a website that would help me. Will
be having an injection this month in mine
and want to know more. Like...Where do I
go from here if this is only temporary?
What can I do to help prevent further
problems, etc.
Just getting down to finding out what
this is.
Thanks anyone!!!