I'm new to this forum and have never asked
questions about my back pain before, so
please bare with me.
Approximately 14 years ago, I was
digging a water line for my father. I was
13 years old. I suddenly received a
stabbing pain in my lower back, about 3 or
so inches up from my tailbone. It put me
down instantly. For 3 days I had trouble
walking. Eventually though, the pain
subsided, and I lived pain free for about
5 years. While attending school, I moved
in such a way that the sudden stabbing
pain returned. Again, after a few days,
it subsided, but this time it didn't
diminish completely. From time to time, I
would aggravate it again, although not to
the point of going to the ground, but
enough that I couldn't lift a single foot
off the ground without support. Usually,
bed rest for the night would help.
Approximately 7 months ago, I again
moved in such a way that the pain
returned. This time, it hurt so much that
I couldn't walk, crawl, sit, lie down, or
stand for more than a couple minutes. The
agonizing pain put me down for more than a
week. In order to walk, I had to hold on
to something, but it was more like I had
to drag myself across the wall because
sudden, jerky movements were agonizing.
Crawling was no easier, other than that I
didn't have to hang on the wall. Sitting
in any position was not as painful as
trying to get up from it. Using the
bathroom was impossible. In fact, I broke
the toilet paper holder off the wall in my
bathroom. Sleep never came, especially in
bed. I had to prop myself up in a semi
lying semi sitting position so that I
could get up in the morning. When I did
stand, it was not straight. I couldn't
even drive because picking up my foot to
engage the clutch was impossible.
The pain subsided again, but this
time it is far from gone. I feel it every
time I move. The slightest movement in
the wrong direction will tweak it a
little. I can't do sit ups (which I need
because i'm in the military) or push ups.
I'm scared to death that I will bring it
back full force again, only sooner. The
pain brought me to tears more than once,
and I know I wont be able to handle a
repeat performance. Please, can anyone
direct me in a way that I can find out
what this is? Everything i've read
doesn't completely fall in my category.
Thanks for anything
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 06-16-04 23:27pm
Iam no Dr.. It sounds like a sciatica,
you should get this checked out, it could
get worse without treatment.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Venugopal
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 192 Location: India
Extreme Lower Back Pain Posted: 06-24-04 06:11am
Yes, sandy is right it could be sciatica
or due to a condition called as lumbar
spondylosis where there is either
degeneration of the bone (which is
unlikely at your age) or could be due to
the intervening disc between the bones
impinging on the nerve fibres and thereby
cause pain at the site and also radiating
down the lower limbs. An x-ray would
clear the issue.
Homeopathic medicine has good remedies to
see that the degeneration of bones is
stopped from progressing and the
inflammation of the nerve fibres due to
pressure relieved and give you freedom
from the pain. Medicines like arnica,
rhus tox, calc flour, guiacum, gnaphalium,
phytolacca, hypericum , gaultheria are
very helpful in giving you relief.
Dr.Venugopal gouri.
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algosdoc
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Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 186
You Need to See a Real Doctor... Posted: 06-24-04 22:15pm
Not a homeopath. Xrays absolutely will
not show sciatic nerve compression...Only
a mri will do so. There is no evidence
any homeopathic therapies will reduce bone
loss, reduce compression of nerves, or
sciatica.
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Venugopal
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 192 Location: India
Real Medicine Posted: 06-25-04 05:38am
An x ray would reveal whether there is any
degeneration of the bones of lumbar
spine. Mriwould definetely show any
intervertebral discs or any pressure on
the nerves. For suggesting a medicine to
a patient of sciatica it is of
significance if there is any osteoporosis
but there is no necessity to know which
nerve fibre is being compressed. So that
is why as I said for a homeopathic
prescription an x - ray would be good
enough.
Homeopathic medicines have the capacity to
limit the progression of osteoporosis,
relieve the inflammation over the nerve
fibres and get rid of the pain due to the
same.
Dr.Venugopal gouri.
Bhms (bachelor of homeopathic medicine
& surgery)
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algosdoc
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Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 186
Dr. Homeopath... Posted: 06-25-04 09:45am
Quote your literature source which has a
randomized placebo controlled trial of
your chemicals to demonstrate the effects
you claim to be able to produce. Without
scientific literature to support claims,
doctors are no more than snake oil
salesment.
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Venugopal
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 192 Location: India
to Mr.algosdoc Posted: 06-25-04 12:07pm
Homeopathic medicine is a science after
everything has been proven, not whether
somebody believes in it or not. It does
not make any difference.
For example in this case significant
relief can be obtained with homeopathic
treatment.
In cases of sinusitis we can prove it
through changes in the x ray before and
after treatment, eosinophil count etc.
In cases of bronchial asthma apart from
the relief the patient has we can prove it
with increase in pulmonary function
capacity after medication.
So on so forth.
This is a forum where some people are
looking for people who have gone through
similar problems and gained some relief ,
suggestions etc. Your language of snakes,
oils, sales men........
Dr.Venugopal gouri.
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algosdoc
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Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 186
Science Posted: 06-25-04 15:16pm
Homeopathy is absolutely not a science, is
not medicine, is not proven, and is indeed
snake oil. If homeopaths cannot
demonstrate via the scientific method, ie.
Double blind randomized placebo
controlled trials (very easy to do when
you are giving micrograms or picograms of
chemicals), then homeopathy should
definitely go the way of the mesmerizers
of the past century who too fleeced many
into buying their unproven wares. If
homeopathy is science, then it must abide
by the same rules scientists use, and not
simply make up their own rules. If you
can prove it, show it. If you cannot
demonstrate effectiveness with scientific
methods, homeopathy cannot be called
science or medicine. In such cases,
voodoo would be a more appropriate term.
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jessicx
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Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 6
Thanks For the Advice, And Homeopathy Posted: 06-27-04 22:15pm
First of all, thank you all for the
advice. I will in fact go to see a doctor
about this, I just wanted to see what
someone else would say before I use my
last resort.
Also, I want to say that I absolutely
believe in homeopathic medicine. I've
seen enough doctors to know that they
can't possibly help me if they're not even
willing to listen. I almost lost my third
child due to a doctor's need to be right,
rather than his need to help me. I would
rather see someone who would teach me a
way to heal myself, rather than rely on
someone who's not really interested in me,
just interested in a little ego boost. In
fact, I believe so much in the power of
homeopathic medicine, that I intend to
attend college in order to obtain a degree
in psychology. Afterwards, I intend on
furthering my education by learning
everything I can about alternative forms
of psychiatry. I want to be able to teach
people that they can heal themselves,
without the use of medication. But I do
agree that there are times at which we
must all rely on modern medicine, and as
such I agree that the only way to find the
source of my pain is to get an mri.
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algosdoc
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Go For It! Posted: 06-27-04 23:19pm
There is certainly a number of people who
belive medical illnesses are all in the
head, and nothing a good shrink or
homeopath could not cure. I wish you
well.
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Venugopal
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 192 Location: India
Posted: 07-01-04 05:32am
Science yet has to define the mechanism of
action of homeopathic medicine because as
of today it does not have a measure for
it.
Homeopathic medicine can be proved by the
cause and effects.
In a case of sinusitis for example with a
patient having an elevated eosinophil
count, haziness of para nasal sinuses
revealed in an x ray, the changes all due
to allergic rhinitis,after the usage of
homeopathic medicine apart from the
patient expressing relief of nasal
blocking, sneezings, nasal discharge, post
nasal dropping of mucus, heaviness of the
head, dullness etc. (which the skeptics
like algosdoc do not want to believe), the
same above investigations can be repeated
and the results observed.
If this is not science what is science?
The attack on homeopathic medicine is
because in the prescribed remedy there is
no original substance from which it is
made. That is the reason why when you
talk of a double-blind study it is
difficult to convince. Fine, today
science is unable to show how the imprint
is being transferred to every succeding
dilution. Till then you do not want
people to benefit from homeopathic
medicine?
Also as a homeopathic physician I fail to
understand how I can "listen &
assure" a patient who happens to be an
infant. And after this would like to
know, how they are being relieved.
Talking about placebo effect, I wonder how
this works on animals.
So enough of the nonsense of the skeptics
about homeopathic medicine.
Dr.Venugopal gouri.
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Venugopal
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 192 Location: India
Posted: 07-01-04 05:33am
To jessicx
thanks for reposing faith in homeopathic
medicine. All the same as one would know
we ignore science at our own peril and
appreciate it for our own advantage.
Once you undergo an mri, please do let me
know the reports and I can suggest an
appropriate homeopathic medicine. May be
some skeptics get an idea about the
efficacy of homeopathy and also prove to
people influenced by their irrational talk
that homeopathy is effective.
Dr.Venugopal gouri.
