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whirlybird

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Combination of Symptoms?
Posted: 06-14-04 15:53pm

How many here have noticed that besides depression they also have anxiety, cognitive disorders, ocd, and phobias (panic attacks)? Left untreated I had all of those symptoms to varying degrees over the years. I just think there might be a universal "trigger" that regulates most if not all mood disorders and I have to think that that's the key to cracking the riddle of mental disorders. I know that all the people I know with depression also have some sort of cognitive disfunction and many of the other symptoms I described above.

Also, i'm still of the mind that my depression et al are symptoms and not the disease. I have read that some researchers are finding that most mood disorders are caused by a lack of coherency in the brain, which generally means that their brainwave patterns, when compared to normal brains, shows a signature of incoherency. Most people with depression et al have little to no alpha production and alpha wave production is linked to calmness and stability. What causes this anomaly, though, is the real question. And I suspect it's on the cellular level and cells that used to function normaly have somehow been "turned off" and have lost their electrical charge, so they can no longer serve their function in the brain, which sets off a whole host of disfunctions. There is strong evidence that using devices like ces and sending tiny electric pulses to the brain can restore function in the cells and correct brainwave patterns (essentially by recharging brain cells that had been dormant). But ces doesn't seem to work for everyone and that's a riddle in itself. How do the cells get "turned off" in the first place? Extraordinary life circumstances, such as inordinate amounts of stress, trauma, or abuse is a plausable answer. Genetics seems to play a role in this too, since individuals who have idealic upbringings can grow up to be depressed.

Anyway, back to the original question, how many suffer from a combination of symptoms? My theory is that most of us do suffer from a host of other problems, at varying degrees, which falls in line with the lack of brain coherency theory.
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Haley

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Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 122

Posted: 06-16-04 19:51pm

I had several overlapping anxiety problems, but have now come to believe the root of the problem was my inaccurate thoughts and distorted thoughts. I just finished a 12-week group using cbt and it has eliminated most of my depression and panic disorder. The two books we used in my group are really good and I would recommend them both highly: been there, done that? Do this! By sam obitz for anxiety and depression and mastery of your anxiety and panic-third edition by michelle craske and david barlow for panic disorder. Cbt teaches you exercises on how to counter distorted thoughts and once you get good at using the tools like the tea form you start to feel better and better Smile
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whirlybird

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Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 16
Location: Midwest
What I've Found (negative Thoughts)
Posted: 06-17-04 11:56am

I can buy the negative thoughts line, but only up to a point. In other words, what comes first the chicken or the egg?

I'm getting great help from the use of ces, although I still have nicotine and caffeine addictions that are impeading my progress. But when I do feel balanced, which is getting more and more frequent, my negative or inaccurate thoughts just stop. I once again have full cognition and everything appears to be working normally. Hence, I think those inaccurate thoughts are a result of that lack of coherency in function of our brain. If the the neurotransmission is not regulated properly, then information coming in is going to be percieved inaccurately and inaccurate thoughts will follow. Restore proper function and neurotransmission and thoughts will be able to flow as they should. Therapy programs do help, but they only introduce strategies for dealing with the stress that you are dealing with at that particular time, which in turn helps alleviate the symptoms. If you stop therapy or your enviornment suddenly changes, then those strategies are no good and the negative thoughts return. I still think the goal is to "repair" the brain much like a mechanic who repairs our car engine. He physically changes parts that allow the engine to run efficiantly, again, regardless of the incoming stresses put on the engine. I believe ces is doing that for my brain. I guess it all depends on the seveity of your condition, because therapy programs alone will not do it for me at all. I need serious repair and a "rebuilt engine" ; )

ideally, the best treatment would be a combination of both learning strategies (cbt) and some sort of "physical" intervention treatment, like ces. I've found that drugs are big waste of time. My brain becomes numb and my ability to feel real emotions is deadened, not to mention the sleepless nights and the sexual side effects. I'm a big believer in signals and when you can't reach orgasm or can't sleep, then your mind/body/soul is trying to tell you that something is wrong.
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