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Q: Pregnancy As Invasion
asked by: oopoopoop on June 3rd, 2004
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I am going to tell you why I believe that abortion has to be available. As long as I can remember, I have thought that pregnancy is revolting. The entire concept of having a growth, of another being inside a woman, makes me physically ill. I can't look at pregnant women without feeling nauseated. When I saw alien, with the creature coming out of sigourney weaver -- that is what the idea of childbirth is for me. It would be like having cancer, a malignant tumour, something that was eating me from inside.

If there was no way of ensuring this didn't happen to me, I could never have had sex. I have always been diligent using birth control, because the consequences were so frightening, but I also knew that if it happened, I could have an abortion and be free and well again. I have, fortunately, never been pregnant. Perhaps this is some kind of mental problem. And perhaps if I ever had gotten pregnant, those peculiar hormones would have calmed the revulsion. Even thinking about it now makes me a bit faint.

Yes, this is probably incredibly offensive to some people, and I am sorry if anyone takes it personally. But I find the idea that I should be put through something that disgusting for someone else's ethical beliefs equally offensive. I am very happy for all those people who get pregnant and are happy, or don't mind too much. But not everyone feels like you do. If you don't understand how a pregnant woman could be so suicidal that her life was at risk, so be it. I can understand perfectly.
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2ferano
replied on June 3rd, 2004
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I know exactly how you feel. Some women want nothing more then to have babies, and more power to them. But, that is not what all women want. I diligently take the pill also and have also never been pregnant. Thank god. I do have several friends though who got pregnant young and had abortions. I also have several friends, many the same ones who had babies young also. I look at their lives and I look at mine and I really feel bad for them. They have never and will never know true freedom. But, god bless them for having these babies. I, however, cannot honestly say what I would have done in the same situation. I am 25 years old and can still say that I never, ever want children. I love my life too much. I love my freedom to do what I want when I want. If I ever did want a child though I would most likely adopt. I do not ever want to be pregnant or give birth.
So, if I was raped, god forbid, why should I have to go through with the pregnancy? Simple, I shouldn't. And it is no one else's business what I would do in that situation. It would be a horrible terrifying event in my life, and I should not have to suffer further. No one, especially a man who cannot become pregnant anyway, has the right to tell me that I have to have that baby! No one.
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samie
replied on June 4th, 2004
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Homophobic - irrational fear of homosexuals that leads to violence towards homosexuals – politically incorrect

xenophobic – irrational fear of other nations that leads to violence towards foreign speaking people and ethnic minorities – politically incorrect

fetalphobic – irrational fear of unborn human beings that leads to violence and kil ling of innocent people – currently politically correct
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JanetBee
replied on June 4th, 2004
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That is plain silly samie, since none of the other cases are inside you , its not like they are saying they want to kill other people to get rid of fetuses.
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sparklypixie12
replied on June 4th, 2004
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I guess i’m quite the opposite of you in a way!! I’ve always adored the idea of motherhood since my brother came along when I was 8.I think about babies about 70% of my day! It gets annoying sometimes! But I do go through stages every few months when I don’t like the idea either because the thought of stretchmarks, getting fat, being in pain and all that comes with it scares me and also the fact that i’m a total prude who wouldn’t want everyone looking down there! The idea of getting pregnant now scares me too because I have a great future and career ahead of me.
I am not criticizing you for feeling this way about pregnancy because it’s how you feel & you can’t control it in the way I can’t control how I feel. One of reasons that i’m anti-abortion is because I am in awe at the thought of conception and how amazing it is that a woman can carry and nurture a little person inside her. This is simply an opinion though (obviously!)
another point-my auntie died at 26 from breast cancer leaving behind 2 small babies Sad so i’m sorry but I got upset when you compared pregnancy to cancer Sad i’m not trying to offend you but i’m just saying its a harsh image to create. No one chooses to have cancer but some people choose to get pregnant and when they do choose it is to them a very special thing.
Liz
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JanetBee
replied on June 4th, 2004
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That is very interesting, sparkly, I remember reading that in general women who think that having children is very important are much more likely to be against abortion, whatever their religion or age or whatever, which sort of makes sense.

Of course no one chooses to have cancer (although it beats me how anyone can be stupid enough to smoke!!) but if you were trying very hard not to get pregnant, then you weren't choosing to either. I think a lot of the issue which has been said here before is that abortion is not wanting to be pregnant, it isn't about not wanting to be a parent, because if that is the case then you can give up for adoption.
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sparklypixie12
replied on June 4th, 2004
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Hi-yes I must agree that any woman ive come across who is against abortion has been one who really wants children. Any of my friends who dont want children said theyd be fine with abortion.
You made an interesting point which really made me think when you said about why people choose to smoke.It made me think about the connection to my point about people not choosing to have cancer.
I do know that not all birth control is 100% effective & so yes there is a chance that a woman who's trying hard not get pregnant may indeed end up pregnant.I do acknowledge this but i'll always be anti-abortion,thats just me :d
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2ferano
replied on June 4th, 2004
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Oh yeah like I said above, at least I think I did, lol, some women live for babies. Or at least absolutely love being pregnant and being mommies.
But, then there are those of us who do not.

And samie, that was very dumb and had nothing to do with what poopoo said.
It is not a fear, it is just not wanting to go through pregnancy! Just because we are women does not mean that we were all born to breed!
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JanetBee
replied on June 8th, 2004
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I've always believed that those who are most homophobic are those who have latent homosexual feelings that they are unable to acknowledge. And racists just need someone to feel superior too, since they have no other reason...I think some people's fear/hatred of abortion is a bit like that...
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jessechaseme
replied on June 9th, 2004
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Good points. I think we (women) are socially trained to accept the idea of motherhood. It's natural progression. We get married, we have kids, we die. There's your life... But there's so much more you could be doing... Like taking care of the 1.5million children who don't get their basic need met and don't have parents. Why not do some of that work? Or travel, or cure cancer or.. Oh I don't know... Finish high school... Having a child is completly selfish and self serving. Bottom line, lets work with what we have... Do we really need more people in this world?? Or do we just need more taxpayers?

Jesse
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PattyV
replied on June 9th, 2004
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Fetalphobia?????!!!
Sigmund freud you ain't samie!!You made that word up.Just as much as you want the right to tell us(women) we should have babies,we have the right to choose whether we do or not.Some women don't have children for many various reasons-sometimes we just can't.Don'tassume all childless women are as such by choice.I happen to think assisted reproduction is tampering with god's plan.He/she knows better than I do why i've never been pregnant.
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princess529_98
replied on June 9th, 2004
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Jesse
Jesse, just out of curiosity how is it you figure that having a child is selfish and self serving???
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2ferano
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Yes, no one is going to tell me what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Darnit!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not a breeding machine. If I get married and my husband wants children then he can find a way to have them.
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cicci
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Hi I know everybody is entitle to their opinion, im just impressed on how you girls think about pregnancy and babies like is evil, I think personally is the most beautiful gift that god could give us, im preggy and im very happy.
Well I wanted to state my opinion.
Have a nice day
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jessechaseme
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Then go breed. We're not against that.
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jessechaseme
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Princess
What purpose does one more person serve? Why not go adopt a child who is in need. Why not foster a child who has no home if you feel so compelled to interact with children. Why do we need our own from our own womb? We don't need more people on this earth. That's why it's selfish.
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sparklypixie12
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Wow thats an extreme view.So people shouldnt reproduce because its selfish and will overpopulate the planet....I wouldnt ignore my maternal instincts to save the planet or put tax payers out of their misery!
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cicci
replied on June 10th, 2004
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I agree with you girl and the other you gave your opinion and everybody respected you but you are not giving it back nice
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jessechaseme
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Sparks,
Just be sure you understand what is a maternal instinct and what is institutional conditioning.

Thanks,
jesse
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princess529_98
replied on June 10th, 2004
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Jesse
Well I disagree with you on this one. Almost all your posts I have agreed on but this one is insane. Saying woman who have babies are selfish is nutts.I have no problem with the ones that dont want babies for whatever reason. Its there life do with it as they wish but.. To me selfish are the ones who dont want them because they dont wanna give up there freedom they dont wanna share there life, they wanna do what they want when they want and not have to worry about a child being involved. Thats selfish and thats my opinion..There are millions of children out there that need adopted and there are tons of couples out there who cant have there own looking to adopt. I feel for those kids I truly do. But saying its wrong to have babies when theres many to be adopted is wrong. People can still have there own children and still adopt I know of 2 familys who have done just that.. I have 3 beautiful kids teenagers actually and never once did I regret getting pregnant with any of them. To carry them for 9 months feeling them moving,and kicking inside and hearing that heartbeat every month was the greatest thing in the world. Watching them grow bigger and stronger with every year that passes. And sitting back now all 3 out of school and one getting married next year we look and we say we did this we brought up these beautiful loving kids. And I am damn proud damn proud of what we have accomplished. Someone said that a parent will never know true freedom well ya know what we raised those 3 kids they are wonderful well educated kids who have alot to look forward to in life and yes getting them there wasnt always a easy task but we did it and if that means giving up freedom to do so then oh well thats a choice we made and one that we have never regreted. So you wanna call me selfish you go right ahead have at it. You find pregnancy revolting, makes you ill thats fine thats you thats how you feel..You say your on birth control thats not 100% you know that maybe you might consider having your tubes tied although that too isnt a 100% the chances of not getting pregnant with your tubes tired are better than being on the pill. I would hate to see you use abortion as a form of birth control. To me thats revoltiing.
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