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SleepyJen

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a Few Remarks
Posted: 05-31-04 19:04pm

Hi everyone,

i'm new here. I think it's really great that sites like this exist. While many of us have supportive family and friends, it's often hard to find someone who can truly relate to us. After reviewing many postings, I have a couple comments that i'd like to share.

First of all, we are not "epileptics." we are people with epilepsy. Why should we define ourselves by a disorder? It's no secret that epilepsy has a terrible stigma; referring to a person as an epileptic doesn't help to make things better.

Also, i've noticed a few postings had very angry and insulting responses. Calling names doesn't accomplish anything. This forum is here so we can support each other. If incorrect or disagreeable information is posted, it is still possible to respond in a respectful manner. It was so nice to see that two members apologized to each other through their postings after a misunderstanding. That really shows maturity, and the kind of support they displayed to each other was really touching. Thanks for that.

I'd be interested to know how this message was received. Do you agree? ...Disagree?

My sincere best wishes to everyone.
Jen
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Alice in Wonderland

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Re: a Few Remarks
Posted: 06-12-04 13:16pm

sleepyjen wrote:

we are not "epileptics." we are people with epilepsy. Why should we define ourselves by a disorder? It's no secret that epilepsy has a terrible stigma; referring to a person as an epileptic doesn't help to make things better.


i used to feel the same way, but then somebody pointed out that if I had diabetes, I wouldn't have a hard time saying that I was "diabetic." I would have no reason to be ashamed of my diabetes and so I would not be insulted by that word. Likewise, I have no reason to be ashamed of my epilepsy. "epileptic" is only a bad word if you let it be. It reminds me of some who avoid or are afraid of the word "epilepsy" and so instead say "seizure disorder," as if to say, "well, that's not as shameful."

at the same time, I say this "tongue in cheek" as I actually do still have a hard time with the word "epileptic" because of the stigma it carries. The question I was asked and the same one I would bring to this forum is, "do we help the matter any by avoiding the word or can we better erase the stigma by using it like any other word related to epilepsy?"

alice in wonderland
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SleepyJen

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Posted: 06-18-04 00:44am

You make some good points. Sometimes I think i'm being a little too sensitive.

Let me make something clear though. It's not the word itself that bothers me. Saying "an epileptic waveform" or "she is epileptic" is okay. (okay I admit the latter one gets to me a little.) I only take offense when I see people being referred to as "epileptics." I just don't think the word should be used as a noun. And I feel the same way about the word "diabetic," although I admit it doesn't bother me as much because (1) I personally am not diabetic and (2) it doesn't carry as bad a stigma.

And it's all about the stigma. The reason for the terrible stigma is that the public is so uneducated about epilepsy. Have you noticed that although countless celebrities raise awareness and money for so many diseases, none seem to be willing to mention epilepsy (and this includes those who have it)? I'm not saying it's all on them to raise awareness. We have to do it. Everyone in my world knows I have epilepsy and I do my best to educate them about epilepsy in general. I never ever try to hide it, and if that puts me at a disadvantage, let it be.

Even individuals who are in the medical field can be clueless. I had a professor (who has a phd in biomedical engineering) say to the class, "it's not like any of you are epileptic and would need surgery for it." it was so much fun to tell her that I had brain surgery for epilepsy (especially since I was the top student in the class). Smile I really wanted to educate her, so I was disappointed when she didn't care to learn a thing about it.
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danceman

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Stigma With Epilepsy And Supprt
Posted: 07-18-04 07:17am

sleepyjen wrote:
you make some good points. Sometimes I think i'm being a little too sensitive.

Let me make something clear though. It's not the word itself that bothers me. Saying "an epileptic waveform" or "she is epileptic" is okay. (okay I admit the latter one gets to me a little.) I only take offense when I see people being referred to as "epileptics." I just don't think the word should be used as a noun. And I feel the same way about the word "diabetic," although I admit it doesn't bother me as much because (1) I personally am not diabetic and (2) it doesn't carry as bad a stigma.


And it's all about the stigma. The reason for the terrible stigma is that the public is so uneducated about epilepsy. Have you noticed that although countless celebrities raise awareness and money for so many diseases, none seem to be willing to mention epilepsy (and this includes those who have it)? I'm not saying it's all on them to raise awareness. We have to do it. Everyone in my world knows I have epilepsy and I do my best to educate them about epilepsy in general. I never ever try to hide it, and if that puts me at a disadvantage, let it be.


Even individuals who are in the medical field can be clueless. I had a professor (who has a phd in biomedical engineering) say to the class, "it's not like any of you are epileptic and would need surgery for it." it was so much fun to tell her that I had brain surgery for epilepsy (especially since I was the top student in the class). Smile I really wanted to educate her, so I was disappointed when she didn't care to learn a thing about it.

i fully agree ,there is a stigma with epilepsy and the word epileptic , I have said to friends etc I prefer not use the words seizures or fits either, I instead use the term "turns" .I am from australia and there is a lack of public awareness ,education /support and money raising for epilepsy as compared to asthma or diabetes .
Saying he or she is epileptic is like branding you , and mud sticks, yet if you said he or she was asthmatic itn wouldnt have the same effect.
It really gets down to public awareness and education .
In australia there is no financial support for people with a disability that is "chronic" that needs constant medication to enable you to just live day to day. I believe perscriptions for medications should be at a reduced rate for those with such conditions as epilepsy and other chronic conditions
in australia the current base price for medication (i use) is au$23.10 and our government is increasing the price of perscriptions by au$6.00 as of january 1 next year to fund thier election promises, that to me shows lack of sensitivity and understanding,they should leave scriptsa alone and increase something that is not a necessity
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Alice in Wonderland

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Posted: 07-18-04 17:36pm

I recently discussed this with my fiance, who also has epilepsy. (we met by way of a forum similar to this one). We both agreed that in theory, there is nothing wrong with the word "epileptic," (just like diabetic), but we both also conceded that because of the stigmatism, we don't really like the term either.
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